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@Sajjan_Thug hows it going 

On 5/25/2021 at 5:24 AM, Sat1176 said:

 

wow bhaji .. what a gem. listened to the whole video.

from 24 ish mins, he talks about kumbhak and mool bandh with reference to gurbani

Beautiful experience shared by Sanatan Mahapurush, motivational for Naam Abhyasis

So much pain...

I might be wrong but this is just my observation. My thinking might be flawed due my own limited perception. So i apologize in advance   If I hurt someone. A poster claiming to be a female, posts, and things get messy lol... someone makes a new account to help her, someone is asking to swear on loved ones, someone starts fighting that kasam is wrong in sikhi lol, people are getting emotional and so forth 

just an observation, how one anonymous poster riles up so many emotions. I think we all are too nice and too eager to help..i might be wrong but something just seemed fishy in original post, where is the op now . Reminds me of a triya charitar...again i m probably wrong

On 5/25/2021 at 6:03 AM, Sat1176 said:

Sant Waryam Ji Singh gave this instruction.

Left Inhale 3 recitations of Waheguru 

Hold (x2) 6 recitations of Waheguru 

Exhale 3 recitations of Waheguru 

So basically its a ratio of 1:2:1.  

I was never able to find a good resource teaching on kumbakh, 

Swami Rama Ji was really close with Sant Waryam Singh Ji. I find him to be genuine, so I follow his methods. I do this about 10 mins in morning. Here are two vides that helped me. might help you as well. 

7 minutes ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

If the photos of guru sahib (fake or real, whatever) remind us of guru sahib then why can't we also make a murti of guru sahib which resembles the one Baba Nand Singh Ji approved? 

Why would you want to make a murti ? Have you even read my post and contemplated upon it.  Why would you want to make a murti when you can have real Darshana of Guru Nanak Sahib? Why would you want to get stuck to a stone ? The point is to go beyond the photo ultimately. I don't think you understood what I was trying to say. 

Your thinking is very rigid. You need to open up but that will happen with time and experience. Good Luck!

Baba Nand Singh Ji was asked by his murshad/teacher Baba MahaHarnam Singh Ji Bhucho wale to have a portrait of Guru Nanak Sahib prepared which most accurately symbolizes Guru Sahib. There were many portraits of Guru Nanak Sahib in which he is seen pointing upwards, eyes rolled up, etc. Baba Ji wanted a picture in which when ever you look at the photo , it seems as if Guru Sahib is looking right at you.  So Baba Nand Singh Ji according to the hukam of his Murshad/ teacher gave some pointers to a painter in Jagraon on how the painting should look . The painter made several versions before Baba ji finally approved the painting that most accurately symbolized Guru Sahib. In one version of sakhi, it is also said that the painter had the darshan of Guru Sahib which helped him in making the painting.  

Gurbani says  tere banke loyan dant risala sohne nakk jinne lamde vala, kanchan kaya soyne ki dhala....

The Golden prakash and the golden clothes are based on kanchan kaya sone ki dhala. This is something that can be experienced by those who have had the darshan or practical experience. It was very interesting to note when I came across the practical experience of Bhai Dharmjit Singh Gurmat Meditation who talked about his exprience of Golden Parkash, and in anyway he is not related to Nanaksar Samparda. 

One hand has mala in it, it symbolizes Bhagti, and to do Bhagti. The other hand is hidden. 

One foot is exposed with padam in it, this is for Sikhs to meditate upon and do sewa of. The other foot is hidden, and is for everyone else(other creation) besides humans to do sewa of.  

The photo is more of a symbolic representation, to do dhyana of charan kamal , and use as an aid, as a reminder to think about Guru Ji, and as a beginner. , 

imo I also want to mention that no one can create an exact photo of Nirankar Rabb Ji Guru Nanak Sahib, but its more of a symbolic aid to help devotees. And there have been countless stories in past who had darshan of Guru Nanak Sahib through the photo during Baba Nand Singh Ji and Baba Ishar Singh Jis times. 

One time a devotee brought a saroop of Guru Nanak Sahib which was not the same painting. Baba ji closed his eyes and bowed to it. Someone asked why did you bow to it, its not even a true saroop of Guru Sahib. Baba Nand Singh ji, the greatest Brahmgyani of all, whose name is mentioned by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji in Sau Sakhi as a lead, Nand Singh Garja Singh Aadi Jin laaj panth ki saaji...said that whatever reminds us of our beloved Guru Ji deserves respect and bowing down to. 

So if you dont bow down to a photo, that's fine. No one will force you. But its not the absolute right thing to do either. Hopefully, with time you will realize. 

I also came across another person who is not related to Nanaksar, Mangal Singh Dhillon youtube channel. He talks about his conversations with God, how he came across a divine power, a divya purush Omkar Ji maharah. He told him that real saroop of Guru Nanak Sahib resembles the paintings in Nanaksar Jagraon. 

2 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

We should apply this to our own ithihaas and experiences. Look at Panjab now compared to only a century and half ago, it looks like we've gone backwards too.   

For sure

But in the end , in grand scheme of things, this is a play of Kaal in Nirankar’s hukum. Gore had the brains to deceive people, and that’s what they did. We were either simple minded or the kings/princes were too busy in aish prasti. Dynasties/ empires come and go. Power  can blind you and ultimately leads to your downfall. Jiski lathi uski bhains. At one point jews were vulnerable, now they have amassed strength/power to kick ass, and now everyone is crying. 
 

Guru Gobind Singh ji have said koi kisi ko raaj na dehe jo lehe apne nij bhuj bal se le hai. 

9 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

What makes you think this isn't exactly what they wanted/planned? 

I am sure thats what they wanted.

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

People in Canada should especially watch this. Hidden history and treatment of indigenous children. 

Yup the history of indigenous people is very very sad. They are still suffering the effects upto this day. The first nation,inuit and metis people have the highest rates of depression, suicide, drug addiction etc, almost6-10 times compared to canadian folks. European colonizers have fucked up a lot, all over World.  Indigenous culture was basically wiped out. 

They have paused the astrazeneca here in Canada. People like to have pfizer and unwillingly moderna if nothing else is available. Hopefully, we don't get more mutations. But ultimately, its a play of Nirankar Ji via Kaal. Nature has definitely benefitted. Plus it has taught that restaurants, pubs, clubs, parties and shopping are non-essential.  

18 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

Well thank kudrat you are here to help.

 

stop spewing hate? but...

 

is quite hateful isn't it, when no-one on this forum has actually supported that. Or maybe it's cos Dhumma said didn't actually say that.

 

If people used their brains, no0one would beleive in God/gurdwara/religion at all. Logically.

 

love your responses man, they are so subtle, witty and clever haha , lol at kudrat. I know who you are referring to 

Listen from the beginning. It emphasizes the importance of listening to Pavan Shabads. Clears many doubts. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CarUS97jDPE

8 hours ago, Manav said:

I live in Punjab. I am aware of some of the teachings of the Gurus. I am just not sure what to do? Do nitnem? 

Do Waheguru Mantra Japa. Say Waaaaaahe...listen to it, say Gurooooo..listen to it. 

Go through the meditation section here, you will get your answers. 

The title is so wrong, the only inconsistencies are in our mind. Admin please change title if you agree. 

ਪਹਿਲਾ ਪਹਰੁ ਧੰਧੈ ਗਇਆ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਰਿ ਸੋਇਆ ॥
The first watch of the night passes away in worthless affairs, and the second passes in deep sleep.  What time period are we talking about in the first watch of night ?
 

ਤੀਜੈ ਝਾਖ ਝਖਾਇਆ ਚਉਥੈ ਭੋਰੁ ਭਇਆ ॥

In the third, they babble nonsense, and when the fourth watch comes, the day of death has arrived.

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ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਫੁਲੜਾ ਫਲੁ ਭੀ ਪਛਾ ਰਾਤਿ ॥
The first watch of the night brings flowers, and the later watches of the night bring fruit.  again here, which is the first watch of night and the later watches?
 

ਜੋ ਜਾਗੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਲਹੰਨਿ ਸੇ ਸਾਈ ਕੰਨੋ ਦਾਤਿ ॥੧੧੨॥
Those who remain awake and aware, receive the gifts from the Lord. ||112||

wjkk wjkf ji, 

I was trying to get some information regarding the 8 pehars. I know each pehar is 3 hours. I am wondering when does the first pehar start, and what is the pichla pehar of night ? I tried googling but not much info available. Thanks.