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Kaam cant be controlled by removing clothes, your mind gets use to it. Like placees where ppl keep themselves covered and if they see a naked elbow they get kaami and there are places where they see you naked all the time and kaam doesnt affect them becoz they are use to it, but both have kaam in them. Kaam can only be controlled by His Kirpa ! Self-Effort is useless

The issue of eating meat or not will never goto end, but what really concern is that modern gursikhs are more concerned with what others eat and do and not with themselves. If someone eats meat .. good for him and if someone doesnt eat meat.. that also good for him. Just make sure u dont do any of the 4 kurahit.

I think that it is important for a sikh to marry a sikh provided if that sikh is concerned with meeting God. There is no discrimination on this, but those people who want to meet God should marry people of the same inclination and if you are going to use sikh path to meet God then it is good that your patner also follows the same otherwise if you are of the inclination of partying and maya-stuff then you can go ahed and marry anyone. ofcourse this rule doesnt hold strict like no rule holds strict and perfectly true. You might even marry a muslim and do it or marry a hindu, ultimately it comes down on to a personal scenario in which on the people who want to get married can decide what is best for them. I am not sure if it is written anywhere, but I think I read in the 52 hukamnamas on this website that a daughter shouldnt be given in the house of a clean-shaven man. The rest of the points.. we need not really care about. We do bhakti for ourselves and by waheguru kirpa everythin is fine.

N3OSingh, You can follow Yoga if you want to. I dont see anywhere Gurbani supports it. I have met a good share of sikh saints who dont believe in it. I only take refuge in God which is straight and direct. I dont rely on a bunch of poses, breathing of dealing with chakra for my mukti. The refuge in God is the HIGHEST ONE ! Regarding marriage again, even I remember once a while I use to say I dont want to get married, but in reality married life is the fastest and easist way to meet God plus those who dont get married have a MUCH MUCH MUCH HARDER TIME DOING TAPSYA AND STUFF LIKE THAT. Guru Sahib Himself said that those who get married and remain faithful are teh perfect celibates and they are my Guru. I met one saint and he told me a true story about a person who did not get married and spent his life doing all kind of tapsya, seva and simran and in the old age he fell prey to kaam just for once and his entire tapsya was destroyed and ruined. He use to cry, repent badly. again, Guru Sahib themselves didnt need to get married but they showed us that we should live a married life-style by themselves marrying. So I will follow the example taught by Guru Sahib others can follow yoga and not get married they are not following the examples as taught by Guru Sahib but that doesnt mean they wont be successful .. they to can be successful. Even a mad man can find God, but here the topic is following Gurmat as taught by Guru Ji.

okay everyone has their own impression on this, I wouldnt argue with you. If you wanna do yoga , you can do it. Ofcourse Yoga is not a kurehit.... but I dont take refuge in the technoloy of Yoga and nor do I follow any sant mahapursh, that is their way of life. My concern is with Guru Sahibaan and I want to follow and lead a life as they themselves taught us by example (grihisthi) and as for bani.. i already checked out the shabads that you gave. In no bani the Guru ji recommend you to do yoga on the contrary I have you two shabads in which Guru Nanak clearly criticised hatha yoga as it wears out the body. There are many sikh saints that practice yoga, picture might be one of them. There are those also who dont get married and everyone has their own life-style and not all of them practice the way Guru Sahibaan tauht. So I wouldnt follow them or recognise them. There are also many HIGH REALIZED SIKH SAINTS. I had personal contact, who may not approve of these methods.

SB, The yoa that Guru Nanak is talking about in the shabad is the yoga of meditatin on naam, simran and bhakti. Tell me where does any Guru recommends that you deal with hatha yoga, breathing exercises , fasting or the technology of chakras? I have had enough experience in all of these things and yes they can produce good psuedo effects that one is progressing, but in reality True Peace and Meditation on Naam only comes out of **Love** and when there is true desire to meet God. This is the only permanent cure to the 5 evils and this is the only permanent meditation, peace , mukti whatever you want to call it. Rest you can keep on practicing Yoga for all your life but nothings gonna work. and did you know that Swami Nitya Nand has wrote that he use to practice yoga for several decades up on the himalayas but it was all useless and it did not help him and when he died at the age of 120, he said that he will have to be born in the house of Guru Nanak and meditation on naam, bhakti to achieve mukti. The thin is that we... ourselves cant do anything. We are powerless. True spritiual progress only comes by His grace. we can do as much yoga, and experiement will all types of yoga technologies, methods, techniques.. but none of this is goin to help. Only His Grace is the prime factor.

PAGE 906 The many Siddhas and seekers, silent sages and demi-gods siDh saaDhik kaytay mun dayvaa. cannot satisfy themselves by practicing restraint through Hatha Yoga. hath nigrahi na tariptaaveh bhayvaa. One who contemplates the Word of the Shabad, and serves the Guru - his mind and body become immaculate, and his egotistical pride is obliterated. ||6||

this is a full shabad that disqualifeis yoga. Plz read it full !! An important practice of any yoga is hatha yoga and pranayama(drawing of breath in and out)... it is part of Raja Yoga and even kundalini Raamkalee, First Mehl: raamkalee mehlaa 1. Practicing restraint by Hatha Yoga, the body wears away. hath nigarahu kar kaa-i-aa chheejai. The mind is not softened by fasting or austerities. varat tapan kar man nahee bheejai. Nothing else is equal to worship of the Lord`s Name. ||1|| raam naam sar avar na poojai. ||1|| Serve the Guru, O mind, and associate with the humble servants of the Lord. gur sayv manaa har jan sang keejai. The tyrannical Messenger of Death cannot touch you, and the serpent of Maya cannot sting you, when you drink in the sublime essence of the Lord. ||1||Pause|| jam jandaar johi nahee saakai sarpan das na sakai har kaa ras peejai. ||1|| rahaa-o. The world reads the arguments, and is softened only by music. vaad parhai raagee jag bheejai. In the three modes and corruption, they are born and die. tarai gun bikhi-aa janam mareejai. Without the Lord`s Name, they endure suffering and pain. ||2|| raam naam bin dookh saheejai. ||2|| The Yogi draws the breath upwards, and opens the Tenth Gate. chaarhas pavan singhaasan bheejai. He practices inner cleansing and the six rituals of purification. ni-ulee karam khat karam kareejai. But without the Lord`s Name, the breath he draws is useless. ||3|| raam naam bin birthaa saas leejai. ||3|| The fire of the five passions burns within him; how can he be calm? antar panch agan ki-o Dheeraj Dheejai. The thief is within him; how can he taste the taste? antar chor ki-o saad laheejai. One who becomes Gurmukh conquers the body-fortress. ||4|| gurmukh ho-ay kaa-i-aa garh leejai. ||4|| With filth within, he wanders around at places of pilgrimage. antar mail tirath bharmeejai. His mind is not pure, so what is the use of performing ritual cleansings? man nahee soochaa ki-aa soch kareejai. He carries the karma of his own past actions; who else can he blame? ||5|| kirat pa-i-aa dos kaa ka-o deejai. ||5|| He does not eat food; he tortures his body. ann na khaahi dayhee dukh deejai. Without the Guru`s wisdom, he is not satisfied. bin gur gi-aan taripat nahee theejai. The self-willed manmukh is born only to die, and be born again. ||6|| manmukh janmai janam mareejai. ||6|| Go, and ask the True Guru, and associate with the Lord`s humble servants. satgur poochh sangat jan keejai. Your mind shall merge into the Lord, and you shall not be reincarnated to die again. man har raachai nahee janam mareejai. Without the Lord`s Name, what can anyone do? ||7|| raam naam bin ki-aa karam keejai. ||7|| .............................................................PAGE 905

N3OSingh, You are giving me one-line out of shabads and not typing the full shabads. The Yoga that Guru Ji indicating in the shabad is the yoga of meditating on God's Name and not doing some circus type of poses or sitting down like a crane and meditating on third eye and trying to open chakras. All these exercises are futile. I will later print out some shabads which directly support this.

llavershi, everyone has a diffierent schedule. I am a student. I have decided I will sleep from 8 am -1 or 2 pm and go for night classes and in this way stay-up full nights. If you have job. You goto sort it out in some way. Like goto bed from 6 pm-2 am and then wake up.

Yoga + gurbani (Super Cosmic Power) helps a lot. ************************************************************* Did anyone get today's hukamnama? RAAMKALEE, FIRST MEHL: You calculate the auspicious days, but you do not understand that the One Creator Lord is above these auspicious days. He alone knows the way, who meets the Guru. When one follows the Guru’s Teachings, then he realizes the Hukam of God’s Command. || 1 || Guru'sword, Gurbani or Naam Jaaping is Highest Above all. Kundalini yoga, hatha yoga and all these things are just mere "nakhra" ..."bahana". Yoga is nothing but science beyond human thinking. If Guru Ji wants He can explain us what all this yoga and how all these things work inside the body and can tell everything about this science, for Guru Ji and God it is not something big , becoz God created it. We get astonished and amazed because we dont know about it, but as Guru Ji said "Jo var chaho so tum te paho. Tumeh chaad koi avar nah dahiyo." ----> "i will ask my desires from you and I will not depend on anything else besides you." Falling at God's feet is the highest yoga, those who do that dont need to do chakra stuff.

There is no Yamduttas or Dharamraaj for amritdhari sikhs. Those who are amritdhari sikhs or have taken the amrit of the Guru even once, there accounts are judged by Guru Gobind Singh and they go straight to Guru ji not dharamraaj. They fall in the department of Guru ji, ofcourse these sikhs will get punished for wrong doings...but I dont think we are recieved by jamdoots. I am not sure if that holds true for those who commit kurehit, but my uncle told me that anyone who takes amrit once and even if he goes total bad and all the way into kurehit.. he will still meet God in 10,000 years and this promise Guru ji made with God. Anyone who becomes Guru-wala even once then the Guru ji will see to it that one day that person becomes merged with the Guru one day. He may become seperated temporarily, but the Guru will merge him one day with Himself. This is the power of amrit.

In the rehat maryada one must wake up 3 hours before dawn and recite "Waheguru" (concentrate one thought on God). The rehat maryada doesnt say anything about reciting the 5 banis before sunrise, is it okay to recite them early morning ... like before it gets to noon. Thats what someone told me. Best thing I know of is not to sleep at night. Spend the night doing naam abhiyaas and then at 5 or 6 do your 5 bani recitation and then sleep for some 6-7 hours to catch up with the sleep. Night is special because at night there are several forces that attack you. They say "what is this guy doing?" You become aware of lot of things. I havent done this always but I have spent night awake only listenning to kirtan and listenning to kirtan is the best way to make you stayed-up. Lets see what others have to say on this.

The questin is not about kids. Bhagats like RAVIDAS were married twice and had 4 kids , Tulsidas was dead attached to his wife. Meeting God has nothing to do with how many kids you have. Guru Sahib has clearly said that a person who marries and remains faithful to his wife is a perfect celibate. I dont believe inthe versions of hindu celibacy and which some gursikhs still practice by not sleeping with their wifes or having sex only for procreation. when it comes to masturbation. There were many amritdhari sikhs during times of Guru Gobind Singh ji who got affected by kaam and were about to goto prosititute house, but Guru ji intervened in someway or other and saved them. So being amritdhari doesnt mean that you have overcome kaam. It is a slow process as for yogic techniques and saty kriyas.. i dont believe in them. The only way to get rid of kaam is when God Himself wills it and pleases it. There is NO other way. No other effort or technique or method. This I am telling from my own experience. Having said this also doesnt mean that we should start mastubration 24 hours whenever we like. ofcourse we should control it to our max limit.. but yogic techniques are not going to work. The only permanent cure that I know of is 24 hour absorption in love with God. When u in love with some girl in true way .. then you lust doesnt come in .. in the same if you love with God then lust wont come. I know of people who remained for so long in love with God.. that they were not even aware that they ever had kaam in them before. Lasatly, khalsa soulja, Muslims are the HIGHEST PERVERT PEOPLE in the world. Check out saudia arabia and middle east.

no one is forcing. if you take amrit.. you are VERY VERY LUCKY, but you can meet Guru ji without amrit also.

anyone who takes the amrit lives in the rehat has the full power and support of Guru Gobind Singh. We dont take Amritn by our own will and nor do we become 100% perfect by our own will, but Guru gives it to us, when he accepts us. Our power to be 100% perfect is not there, we got no power ! This also includes that my asking anyone to take amrit is completely 100% useless. It is all done by the will of the Guru, but without amrit it is difficult to keep rehat. before taking amrit I use to try to keep the 5 banis. I couldnt at that time, After taking Amrit .. I am very easily able to do so. Infact Amrit Shawking has helped me understand a lot of things. Now I feel the power and support of the 10th Guru always with me and always around me. Now I know I am in the department and the responsibility of the Guru and all my affairs will be managed by Him.

Therez no amrit shaking one day. If you want to shawk it . Then shawk it now. Find out the Gurudwara and go shawk it. We should not wait for amrit.

When the mind is in love witht he Guru. There is no sexual desire, no masturbation.. nothing.. nothing, but when it is not absorbed in devotion and love .. then anything can happen. read Shabad Haazare. "For one moment I was seperated and Kalyug came upon"

I want to know if masturbation is a kurehat and requires re-baptization?