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The Hukamnama Sahib from Sachkand Sri Darbar Sahib Sri Amritsar Sahib, Today- Wednesday 2th December 2004: jaithasaree mehalaa 4 || Jaitsree, Fourth Mehl: jin har hiradhai naam n basiou thin maath keejai har baa(n)jhaa || The Lord's Name does not abide within their hearts - their mothers should have been sterile. thin su(n)n(j)ee dhaeh firehi bin naavai oue khap khap mueae karaa(n)jhaa ||1|| These bodies wander around, forlorn and abandoned, without the Name; their lives waste away, and they die, crying out in pain. ||1|| maerae man jap raam naam har maajhaa || O my mind, chant the Name of the Lord, the Lord within you. har har kirapaal kirapaa prabh dhhaaree gur giaan dheeou man samajhaa || rehaao || The Merciful Lord God, Har, Har, has showered me with His Mercy; the Guru has imparted spiritual wisdom to me, and my mind has been instructed. ||Pause|| har keerath kalajug padh ootham har paaeeai sathigur maajhaa || In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Kirtan of the Lord's Praise brings the most noble and exalted status; the Lord is found through the True Guru. ho balihaaree sathigur apunae jin gupath naam paragaajhaa ||2|| I am a sacrifice to my True Guru, who has revealed the Lord's hidden Name to me. ||2|| dharasan saadhh miliou vaddabhaagee sabh kilabikh geae gavaajhaa || By great good fortune, I obtained the Blessed Vision of the Darshan of the Holy; it removes all stains of sin. sathigur saahu paaeiaa vadd dhaanaa har keeeae bahu gun saajhaa ||3|| I have found the True Guru, the great, all-knowing King; He has shared with me the many Glorious Virtues of the Lord. ||3|| jin ko kirapaa karee jagajeevan har our dhhaariou man maajhaa || Those, unto whom the Lord, the Life of the world, has shown Mercy, enshrine Him within their hearts, and cherish Him in their minds. dhharam raae dhar kaagadh faarae jan naanak laekhaa samajhaa ||4||5|| The Righteous Judge of Dharma, in the Court of the Lord, has torn up my papers; servant Nanak's account has been settled. ||4||5|| Shabad Ucharan by Sodhi Paatshah Sri Satguru Raam Daas Ji in Raag Jaithsree, Ang 697 of Sri SatGuru Granth Sahib Ji, This hukamnama can also be found via the following link: http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=2647 ""Vaho Vaho Sachey Paatshaah, Tu Sachee Naee""

The Hukamnama Sahib from Sachkand Sri Darbar Sahib Sri Amritsar Sahib, Today- Monday 27th December 2004: raag soohee mehalaa 3 ghar 10 Raag Soohee, Third Mehl, Tenth House: ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: dhuneeaa n saalaahi jo mar va(n)n(j)asee || Do not praise the world; it shall simply pass away. lokaa n saalaahi jo mar khaak thheeee ||1|| Do not praise other people; they shall die and turn to dust. ||1|| vaahu maerae saahibaa vaahu || Waaho! Waaho! Hail, hail to my Lord and Master. guramukh sadhaa salaaheeai sachaa vaeparavaahu ||1|| rehaao || As Gurmukh, forever praise the One who is forever True, Independent and Carefree. ||1||Pause|| dhuneeaa kaeree dhosathee manamukh dhajh mara(n)n || Making worldly friendships, the self-willed manmukhs burn and die. jam pur badhhae maareeahi vaelaa n laaha(n)n ||2|| In the City of Death, they are bound and gagged and beaten; this opportunity shall never come again. ||2|| guramukh janam sakaarathhaa sachai sabadh laga(n)n || The lives of the Gurmukhs are fruitful and blessed; they are committed to the True Word of the Shabad. aatham raam pragaasiaa sehajae sukh reha(n)n ||3|| Their souls are illuminated by the Lord, and they dwell in peace and pleasure. ||3|| gur kaa sabadh visaariaa dhoojai bhaae racha(n)n || Those who forget the Word of the Guru's Shabad are engrossed in the love of duality. thisanaa bhukh n outharai anadhin jalath fira(n)n ||4|| Their hunger and thirst never leave them, and night and day, they wander around burning. ||4|| dhusattaa naal dhosathee naal sa(n)thaa vair kara(n)n || Those who make friendships with the wicked, and harbor animosity to the Saints, aap ddubae kutta(n)b sio sagalae kul ddoba(n)n ||5|| shall drown with their families, and their entire lineage shall be obliterated. ||5|| ni(n)dhaa bhalee kisai kee naahee manamukh mugadhh kara(n)n || It is not good to slander anyone, but the foolish, self-willed manmukhs still do it. muh kaalae thin ni(n)dhakaa narakae ghor pava(n)n ||6|| The faces of the slanderers turn black, and they fall into the most horrible hell. ||6|| eae man jaisaa saevehi thaisaa hovehi thaehae karam kamaae || O mind, as you serve, so do you become, and so are the deeds that you do. aap beej aapae hee khaavanaa kehanaa kishhoo n jaae ||7|| Whatever you yourself plant, that is what you shall have to eat; nothing else can be said about this. ||7|| mehaa purakhaa kaa bolanaa hovai kithai parathhaae || The speech of the great spiritual beings has a higher purpose. oue a(n)mrith bharae bharapoor hehi ounaa thil n thamaae ||8|| They are filled to over-flowing with Ambrosial Nectar, and they have absolutely no greed at all. ||8|| gunakaaree gun sa(n)gharai avaraa oupadhaesaen || The virtuous accumulate virtue, and teach others. sae vaddabhaagee j ounaa mil rehae anadhin naam leaen ||9|| Those who meet with them are so very fortunate; night and day, they chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||9|| dhaesee rijak sa(n)baahi jin oupaaee maedhanee || He who created the Universe, gives sustenance to it. eaeko hai dhaathaar sachaa aap dhhanee ||10|| The One Lord alone is the Great Giver. He Himself is the True Master. ||10|| so sach thaerai naal hai guramukh nadhar nihaal || That True Lord is always with you; the Gurmukh is blessed with His Glance of Grace. aapae bakhasae mael leae so prabh sadhaa samaal ||11|| He Himself shall forgive you, and merge you into Himself; forever cherish and contemplate God. ||11|| man mailaa sach niramalaa kio kar miliaa jaae || The mind is impure; only the True Lord is pure. So how can it merge into Him? prabh maelae thaa mil rehai houmai sabadh jalaae ||12|| God merges it into Himself, and then it remains merged; through the Word of His Shabad, the ego is burnt away. ||12|| so sahu sachaa veesarai dhhrig jeevan sa(n)saar || Cursed is the life in this world, of one who forgets her True Husband Lord. nadhar karae naa veesarai guramathee veechaar ||13|| The Lord grants His Mercy, and she does not forget Him, if she contemplates the Guru's Teachings. ||13|| sathigur maelae thaa mil rehaa saach rakhaa our dhhaar || The True Guru unites her, and so she remains united with Him, with the True Lord enshrined within her heart. miliaa hoe n veeshhurrai gur kai haeth piaar ||14|| And so united, she will not be separated again; she remains in the love and affection of the Guru. ||14|| pir saalaahee aapanaa gur kai sabadh veechaar || I praise my Husband Lord, contemplating the Word of the Guru's Shabad. mil preetham sukh paaeiaa sobhaava(n)thee naar ||15|| Meeting with my Beloved, I have found peace; I am His most beautiful and happy soul-bride. ||15|| manamukh man n bhijee ath mailae chith kat(h)or || The mind of the self-willed manmukh is not softened; his consciousness is totally polluted and stone-hearted. sapai dhudhh peeaaeeai a(n)dhar vis nikor ||16|| Even if the venomous snake is fed on milk, it shall still be filled with poison. ||16|| aap karae kis aakheeai aapae bakhasanehaar || He Himself does - who else should I ask? He Himself is the Forgiving Lord. gur sabadhee mail outharai thaa sach baniaa seegaar ||17|| Through the Guru's Teachings, filth is washed away, and then, one is embellished with the ornament of Truth. ||17|| sachaa saahu sachae vanajaarae outhhai koorrae n ttika(n)n || True is the Banker, and True are His traders. The false ones cannot remain there. ounaa sach n bhaavee dhukh hee maahi pacha(n)n ||18|| They do not love the Truth - they are consumed by their pain. ||18|| houmai mailaa jag firai mar ja(n)mai vaaro vaar || The world wanders around in the filth of egotism; it dies, and is re-born, over and again. paeiai kirath kamaavanaa koe n maettanehaar ||19|| He acts in accordance with the karma of his past actions, which no one can erase. ||19|| sa(n)thaa sa(n)gath mil rehai thaa sach lagai piaar || But if he joins the Society of the Saints, then he comes to embrace love for the Truth. sach salaahee sach man dhar sachai sachiaar ||20|| Praising the True Lord with a truthful mind, he becomes true in the Court of the True Lord. ||20|| gur poorae pooree math hai ahinis naam dhhiaae || The Teachings of the Perfect Guru are perfect; meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, day and night. houmai maeraa vadd rog hai vichahu t(h)aak rehaae ||21|| Egotism and self-conceit are terrible diseases; tranquility and stillness come from within. ||21|| gur saalaahee aapanaa niv niv laagaa paae || I praise my Guru; bowing down to Him again and again, I fall at His Feet. than man soupee aagai dhharee vichahu aap gavaae ||22|| I place my body and mind in offering unto Him, eradicating self-conceit from within. ||22|| khi(n)chothaan vigucheeai eaekas sio liv laae || Indecision leads to ruin; focus your attention on the One Lord. houmai maeraa shhadd thoo thaa sach rehai samaae ||23|| Renounce egotism and self-conceit, and remain merged in Truth. ||23|| sathigur no milae s bhaaeiraa sachai sabadh laga(n)n || Those who meet with the True Guru are my Siblings of Destiny; they are committed to the True Word of the Shabad. sach milae sae n vishhurrehi dhar sachai dhisa(n)n ||24|| Those who merge with the True Lord shall not be separated again; they are judged to be True in the Court of the Lord. ||24|| sae bhaaee sae sajanaa jo sachaa saeva(n)n || They are my Siblings of Destiny, and they are my friends, who serve the True Lord. avagan vikan palharan gun kee saajh kara(n)nih ||25|| They sell off their sins and demerits like straw, and enter into the partnership of virtue. ||25|| gun kee saajh sukh oopajai sachee bhagath karaen || In the partnership of virtue, peace wells up, and they perform true devotional worship service. sach vana(n)jehi gur sabadh sio laahaa naam leaen ||26|| They deal in Truth, through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, and they earn the profit of the Naam. ||26|| sueinaa rupaa paap kar kar sa(n)cheeai chalai n chaladhiaa naal || Gold and silver may be earned by committing sins, but they will not go with you when you die. vin naavai naal n chalasee sabh mut(h)ee jamakaal ||27|| Nothing will go with you in the end, except the Name; all are plundered by the Messenger of Death. ||27|| man kaa thosaa har naam hai hiradhai rakhahu samhaal || The Lord's Name is the nourishment of the mind; cherish it, and preserve it carefully within your heart. eaehu kharach akhutt hai guramukh nibehai naal ||28|| This nourishment is inexhaustible; it is always with the Gurmukhs. ||28|| eae man moolahu bhuliaa jaasehi path gavaae || O mind, if you forget the Primal Lord, you shall depart, having lost your honor. eihu jagath mohi dhoojai viaapiaa guramathee sach dhhiaae ||29|| This world is engrossed in the love of duality; follow the Guru's Teachings, and meditate on the True Lord. ||29|| har kee keemath n pavai har jas likhan n jaae || The Lord's value cannot be estimated; the Lord's Praises cannot be written down. gur kai sabadh man than rapai har sio rehai samaae ||30|| When one's mind and body are attuned to the Word of the Guru's Shabad, one remains merged in the Lord. ||30|| so sahu maeraa ra(n)gulaa ra(n)gae sehaj subhaae || My Husband Lord is playful; He has imbued me with His Love, with natural ease. kaaman ra(n)g thaa charrai jaa pir kai a(n)k samaae ||31| The soul-bride is imbued with His Love, when her Husband Lord merges her into His Being. ||31|| chiree vishhu(n)nae bhee milan jo sathigur saeva(n)n || Even those who have been separated for so very long, are reunited with Him, when they serve the True Guru. a(n)thar nav nidhh naam hai khaan kharachan n nikhuttee har gun sehaj rava(n)n ||32|| The nine treasures of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, are deep within the nucleus of the self; consuming them, they are still never exhausted. Chant the Glorious Praises of the Lord, with natural ease. ||32|| naa oue janamehi naa marehi naa oue dhukh seha(n)n || They are not born, and they do not die; they do not suffer in pain. gur raakhae sae oubarae har sio kael kara(n)n ||33|| Those who are protected by the Guru are saved. They celebrate with the Lord. ||33|| sajan milae n vishhurrehi j anadhin milae reha(n)n || Those who are united with the Lord, the True Friend, are not separated again; night and day, they remain blended with Him. eis jag mehi viralae jaaneeahi naanak sach leha(n)n ||34||1||3|| In this world, only a rare few are known, O Nanak, to have obtained the True Lord. ||34||1||3|| Shabad Ucharan by Third King Sri Satguru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Soohee, Ang 755 of Sri SatGuru Granth Sahib Ji, This hukamnama can also be found via the following link: http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=2872

Also, if someone could provide dates for sagraands for the new year. (agaiin, as shindasingh requested non-'nanakshahi' please)

Neo Jee I'll try my best to post a Hukamnama at least weekly, if not daily. Challenge_everything "The deeper arth of this line is that those who are humble are pooran or complete. They are heavier spiritually than those who are full of ahankar who have been described in part of Gurbani as spiritually 'empty'. Those nimarata wale Gursikh pyare like Akaali Baba Deep Singh Ji Nihang, or Bhai Kanhaiya Ji or Bhai Adhan Shaah Ji, were fulfilled inside and so they were complete. But hankari moorakhs like Aurangzeb, Jahangir and Mir Manuu who were full of hankar, were spiritually empty." Thats EXCELLENT and wat i was looking for e.g. i dint understand the weighing bit but ive heard ppl say the 'nivea sey goraa hoey' and dint know wat they meant!! ------ As for todays hukamnama beautiful as usual e.g, Sant rasan voota, aap toota, har rashe saey matheyaa. "You dwell on the tongues of the Saints, by Your own pleasure; they are intoxicated with Your sublime essence, O Lord"

VjkK VjkF Please could we discuss the meanings of today's hukamnama from Sachkand Sri Darbar Sahib Amritsar. SHALOK, FIRST MEHL: The simmal tree is straight as an arrow; it is very tall, and very thick. But those birds which visit it hopefully, depart disappointed. Its fruits are tasteless, its flowers are nauseating, and its leaves are useless. Sweetness and humility, O Nanak, are the essence of virtue and goodness. Everyone bows down to himself; no one bows down to another. When something is placed on the balancing scale and weighed, the side which descends is heavier. The sinner, like the deer hunter, bows down twice as much. But what can be achieved by bowing the head, when the heart is impure? || 1 || FIRST MEHL: You read your books and say your prayers, and then engage in debate; you worship stones and sit like a stork, pretending to be in Samaadhi. With your mouth you utter falsehood, and you adorn yourself with precious decorations; you recite the three lines of the Gayatri three times a day. Around your neck is a rosary, and on your forehead is a sacred mark; upon your head is a turban, and you wear two loin cloths. If you knew the nature of God, you would know that all of these beliefs and rituals are in vain. Says Nanak, meditate with deep faith; without the True Guru, no one finds the Way. || 2 || PAUREE: Abandoning the world of beauty, and beautiful clothes, one must depart. He obtains the rewards of his good and bad deeds. He may issue whatever commands he wishes, but he shall have to take to the narrow path hereafter. He goes to hell naked, and he looks hideous then. He regrets the sins he committed. || 14 || Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaaj Ang 470 If you see this thread today, (6th December) you can go to the normal Sikhnet hukamnama page to view in Gurmukhi and view the panjabi transalation of the shabad- http://www.sikhnet.com/hukam If not, then consult the sikhitothemax website- http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?Sour...&PageNo=470 The main part I would everyone to focus on is the starting salok about the "simmal tree". Having listened to a number of kathavachaks a long time ago I scarcely remember them refering to this shabad when talking about humility (nimartaa). Specifically, I would like to know the meaning of "nivey sey goaraa hoey". Also, please note these stanzas form a part of the Sri Asa Dee Vaar. Ill post more questions about this shabad later, I can t rmember what other things I wanted to ask.

VjkKVjkF http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=2312 Sikhitothemax is excellent for finding shabads in Sri Aad GGS Jee. For example the shabad your refering to can easily be found by using the 'first letters from start' criteria, so all u put in the search box is 'kaka, baba, kaka, Thatha, sasa'- the first LETTER of each word in the line of the shabad your looking for. Hopefully you understand my poor attempt at explaining!!! VjkKVjkF

VJKKVJKF If u dont want the form to do anything for the moment then just make the action attribute blank: <FORM ACTION="" METHOD="POST"> This way the page will just refresh without any data passed on to the php script. Please also note that get rid of target="_blank" since it will just bring up a new window with the same form in it whenever u click on submit. finally im assuming u know that the script uve given isnt a php script but rather just the input form which means that my7Results.php file will probaly be the php script which processes the forms information Hope that helps VJKKVJKF

Narsingha jee please can also give more details on which Nirmalay say this while we wait for jtSingh.

Thanks jtSingh for clearing that up. It makes sense since we can see MANY deras which originate from famous Mahapurkh such as Sant Karam Singh Hoti Mardan wale, whose present day mahapursh are Sant Baba Roshan Singh jee as well as Sant Ishar Singh jee who incadently are a part of the same tree. I know that this mite be touching a senstive topic which has been disscussed in other threads, but could this be the same sort of thing in the Damdami Taksal where there is the present Jathedar Sant Baba Thakur singh as well as Sant Mohan singh jee at Bindra kala who both could be carrying on from Sant Gurbachan Singh??

This maybe: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/ ?

EXCELLENT POST Karmjeet jee The thing is, its so hard to have/ be nirlepta coz theres so much media that is aimed at inflaming lust within us. But then thats the marag of sikhi KMinAhu iqKI vwlhu inkI eyqu mwrig jwxw ] kha(n)niahu thikhee vaalahu nikee eaeth maarag jaanaa || The path they take is sharper than a two-edged sword, and finer than a hair.

I think Guru Raam Daas jee uttered this shabad wen His son Prithi Chand started to argue with him, cant rememeber for wat reason tho. (Prithi Chand was the brother of Guru Arjan Dev jee and wanted the Gurgadhi from his farther but was unsuccessful) http://allaboutsikhs.com/gurus/gururamdas.htm#SELECTION http://allaboutsikhs.com/gurus/guruarjun2.htm

Ive just sent an email asking for the material they used to describe the shaheedee of Baba Deep Singh I will post back when i get a reply. Sorry for the delay in replying to you.

isnt it so that Baba Deep Singh Ji's sees was completely severed and not "almost". I think its an attempt to make it look more "realstic"; abit like the argument that Guru Gobind Singh Ji didnt cut any of the Panj pyares heads. although both these events could be discussed in different threads

From the above article on the SGPC website: :x

Could this be it?? http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=5575

Both Mata Jeeto jee and Mata Gujaree both left their bodies on their own accord. According to a tape that I heard number of years ago, Mata Jeeto jee saw the future e.g. the besiegement of Sri Anandpur Sahib, leaving the kila etc and the shaheedia of the char sahibjadey. After seeing this in a dream she asked Guru Gobind Singh jee whether this was true, Guru Sahib confirmed this. Mata jee then told guru jee that she could not see all this pain happen and would rather die/ leave for Sachkand and asked permission to leave her body. Guru Sahib jee granted her permission and subsequently she did ishnaan, a Sukhmani Sahib da Paath and left her body. Im assuming that Mata Gujaree jee left her body in the same sort of way. Ive also heard that during operation bluestar a Singh was shot in the HEAD However he sat down, did a Sukhmani Sahib da Paath and left his body >>>chardikalaa or wat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kenyankalasingha jee, ive been using the hub for quite a while and ive never really found many different videos and pics of sant jee that arent already on the mentioned websites. Obviously i could be wrong but i doubt!! However there is ALOT of OTHER Sikhi related media on the hub that isnt available from websites. See the link below, its a faq for DC++ and has some links for Macs: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/dc#2

www.saintsoldiers.net- media section has a number of videos which include sant jee as well bits of media coverage of the dark events in the '80s. As for pics try the Damdami Taksal websites- can't remember all of the urls off the top of my head but the two main ones are www.gurusikhijeevan.com and www.gurmatveechar.com. You ll find links to the others from there

'fateh jee A great way to do santhia is to follow the current sehj paath by AMRIT BANI RADIO. Theyve started a sehj paath for the 400th Aniversary of GGS pehla Parkash, where Giani Swaran Singh reads a line and then the sangat reads same line again. Its done at a slow pace so u can follow quite easily The paath is repeated three times daily at (8-9am or 9-10am NOT SURE!!!), 4-5pm and 9-10pm- thats British time. (would be grateful if some1 can confirm that) For all non UK ppl u can go to their website @ www.amritbani.com and listen live and use sikhitothemax or sikhnet to follow the Gurbani. Sorry if some1 has already posted about this.

My nick is <~#§#~/>, im normally on the kirtan hub all day ive had problems of late coz wen trying to PM(or even thru the main window) in DC++ i get disconnected dont know y :? n e way c u on there 'fateh jee

oops sorry -changed (ill put a new one later!!)

'Fateh jee Just added a folder of ebooks, mostly in pdf format, of different programming languages etc to my share on the hub. Got quite abit more on CD please tell us if u need more i COULD have on CD.

'fateh jee Sorry if i caused any inconvenience My handle is actually <~#§#~/> not the one i said above Anyway ive uploaded the Biography of Sant jee - which is taken from the book STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE onto the server in the folder: users/ssinghuk so u dont have to rely on me being online. I think (read it a couple of years ago) this is only a small part of the book since most of the book bhas translations of Sant Jees Speeches Also I was told to upload some Sant Anoop Singh Kirtan but ive only done abit of that.

'fateh ji wen listening to Sant Hardev singh lulo wale katha on Asa di Vaar he said that the total number of shabads/stanzas comes to 108: 60 saloks By Guru Nanak Dev Ji including some by Guru Angad Dev ji 24 pauries By Guru Nanak Dev Ji 24 shants by Guru Ramdas Ji dont know if that means n e thing tho, long time since i listened to and ive lost the tape as well