Lucky

Digits of Mala beads always add up to 9 for eg. 18 54,72 108 etc

Full auras are different colors on different areas of body. Aura around head tells a lot about spirituality but the balances around the body can affect the upper aura.  Most of the time you can work out who has naam and who hasn't. Shouldn't spend more than a few seconds reading one.

On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 8:15 PM, HisServant said:

What does “primordial” mean?

It refers to the original primitive sound of the cosmos and Consciousness. The "Ong" or 'om" as in Ek Ong- kar.  

The frequency of this sound can't be isolated as it is un-struck (an-had). The Tibetan bowl can produce frequencies within closer octave ranges and because of this 'om' like resonance, it can have positive healing effects.

On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 8:15 PM, HisServant said:

THANK YOU THANK YOU. I have been trying to find a clear list for a while. Couldn’t find one anywhere. This is what I had initially thought but this confirms it. I think I’ve heard something from each category. But only one or two at a time.

You should hear most of them at some time or another and they can re-appear at different frequencies tio sound like particular instrument's that we are familiar with. Gurbani mentions quite a few of these and on many occasions it gives and idea of avasthas associated.  I believe it's important to decipher gurbani shabads yourself since it delivers at all levels.  

On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 8:15 PM, HisServant said:

But only one or two at a time. 

You will encounter one or two at a time whilst in the process of purifying Mann. Later, you should hopefully hear more as you proceed along the early bhavsagar and start crossing.  Gurbani give's the nishanees for these throughout and by then, you'll be able to grasp certain shabads with atmic(internal) gyaan to help guide you further. 

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this is lit m8

Yeh, I used to listen a lot to old dharmic geets and digitized most of my own LP's and tapes. The ek-tar sound from one string is amazing. All sounds from multi-string instruments originate from the single tar. 

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 It goes back and forth between conch -> bowl. Then sometimes flute arises from it. They all sound very similar but there’s a slight difference if I listen very carefully. 

I know it's difficult to distinguish and isolate at times. The bowl "om" is like a constant bass line but you will perceive it with different pitch and amplitudes dependent on consciousness clarity.  Safest way is to try and put dhyian on it to see if it can take you deeper into one-pointed focus. If not, then move on to the dhun of internal jap.  

On ‎6‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 5:50 AM, angy15 said:

You are no match to his intellect .You will never understand his work.

Dhillon talks a load of codswallop and he's intellect is an insult to gurbani.  Does he know what shabad is?  Does Dhadri?

On ‎6‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 10:33 AM, chatanga1 said:

I understand his work, and his intellect is fake. There are certain topics where I would easily tear his fake intellect apart

I second that and would  shred his genius into a corner.

 @angy15  This has noting to do with taksal vs dhadri and your assumption, that members here are outright taksal supporters.  'I'm responding because of the severity of manmat and anti-gurmat by Dhadri clan, and your esteem for Dhillon. I have no association with any samparda, jatha, taksal, akj, nanasar, Nihangs etc.  
 

On top of this, you went and presented the below tuk with a deliberate misinterpretation. 

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ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਰਹੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਹੀਐ ॥
Jab Lag Dhuneeaa Reheeai Naanak Kishh Suneeai Kishh Keheeai ||

As long as one lives in this world  one must listen  to others and express oneself to the others (to find the truth).

 

I would be happy to show you the depths and deeper meaning of above tuk and shabad , and prove to you that it has nothing to do with listening and expressing to fellow debaters.

You should realize where I'm coming from and be prepared to learn a thing or two about the "core" of sikhi.

On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 6:14 AM, HisServant said:

Is this one of the panj shabad?

The 5 shabads can arise from this primordial type sound and may also merge to form this sound.   

10 hours ago, HisServant said:

I live a pretty busy lifestyle but I put meditation at the front because it helps me in every aspect of life. 

 

I'm trying to become a doctor so this entire summer is just me studying for my mcat. I'm really career focused. I am one of the directors on the board of my local hospital. I was actually probably the youngest to ever join - at the age of 17. And I owe that to the bhagti for sharpening my confidence and helping me approach problems with a lot of patience.

I have also spearheaded/been lead on a few major projects for both the hospital and other healthcare related work. Again - the calmness that bhagti leaves you with is responsible for this.

I have worked in academia, research, published a scientific article on meditation and neuroplasticity, edited a science vs meditation textbook (not released to the public yet but will be soon - the prof in charge will be selling it to profs who teach spirituality courses at universities) etc. Meditation helps you learn and study because you're not easily frustrated when you can't figure something out.

I also work for the universities student union, been the student media spokesperson for the past provincial election. (But as of last week have taken some time off to focus on my test). Really involved with helping the local gurdwara and running its social media (I live in a city which is/was primarily white growing up so got really involved with the gurdwara due to the small sikh population).

 

I don't know if any of that is meaningful though lol. It probably sounds really boring but I love all of this. Especially the science stuff - I am a huge biology nerd. And I love brains (lol... don't be creeped out)

Plus part of a lot of clubs, services, etc at school. However... no longer part of the sikh student association... essentially banned for speaking out against anything that goes against popular belief. There was a time when I would stay silent and heavily help out. But I couldn't sit around and listen to people talk about topics like "possible sikhi-related solutions to mental health" but not hear anyone say anything about the path of japa - then be told jaap isn't part of sikhi. This is a longer discussion, but you know exactly what I'm talking about with the views of most of the community these days. And I couldn't sit around and watch them pretend like they can't be friends with non-sikhs, or their lack of professionalism in certain academic/career related environments. 

 

Non-academic side I have a kirtan ustaad - not going to mention his name because many know him - and it would give away who I am. But I think that goes hand in hand with bhagti. Kirtan has always helped me increase love for god and motivate the mind to do more bhagti. 

I used to work out 7 days a week but I am so tight on time these days I fell off of that. Can't start back up until september because I have my mcat on Aug 2 and then I'm back in England until September. But main reason for the 7 days was that it had tremendous benefits on meditation. Back then balancing breath was a struggle and the lifting got the job done. 

Also do cryptocurrency day trading... it's pretty fun. Busy with studying right now so I set up a bot to do it for me.

Socially I would consider myself pretty extroverted. I have a habit of being friends with/starting a conversation with every second person I see on the street. I know a lot of people which is good and bad in many ways. As of now, it's been not the best because someone always wants to go for lunch or hangout but I need to study and do bhagti. But on the brightside - if I do notice someone is not the best sangat, I am able to drop them immediately and never look back. Due to the detachment. Doesn't matter how close they are. Even dropped a 12 year long friendship because I realized the guy is completely immersed in the same sikh-youth mindset as everyone else and I didn't want to waste my time there. I don't care what I say in any situation - I just freely speak whatever is on my mind. Could not care less what people think. I don't see any reason to pretend to be someone else. The meditation has brought on this freedom. 

 

I love cars as well. I drive a manual audi. Probably my most valued possesion. This one doesn't relate to meditation but I think it's one every guy on this site can relate to. Only thing I can think of is the attachment to it. I did have a situation a little while back where something went wrong... and long story short the mechanic said the price to fix it was more than the car itself. The initial thought was "cool, I'll just sell the parts, buy some cool shoes and start walking wherever I go". Which a year ago, I probably would have flipped and gone into depression. Luckily, I took it to an old friend and he figured out a way to make it as good as new without spending more than $20.

 

So essentially, I would say meditation is the only meaningful activity I do because none of my other activities would exist/have meaning without it. It has literally created a life of complete freedom where I just do what I feel like doing with no care for the consequences. Which is not a bad thing because with sikhi/gurmat, you never have ill intentions.

 

When a lot of people talk about bhagti, they say you can't do things you enjoy, or hangout with non-bhagti type people... but honestly 85%+ of my social groups are people who are not Sikh. Less than 3-5% probably do bhagti (I just have this forum and a local simran group that I only see a few sundays a month). 

 

So all I have to say to people that live in that closed off mentality is... LIVE LIFE. Do what you have to do in tregun on a day to day basis. And then when that's over, learn to connect internally. 

 

Obviously, that does not mean go drink and party everyday. I still practice brahmachariya, I still restrain myself from indulging in unhealthy food, I restrain from the 4 kurehits, I read gurbani everyday and do kirtan, I wear my kakars. But... I live life in a way that is enjoyable and integrates with western society. You don't have to be "the religious" guy in every social situation that makes other people feel like they can't have a good time (I used to be that guy many years ago). You need to live life in a way where you integrate into society and inspire other people to do jaap. Find what you enjoy in life and be the life of that group. The greater the mental stability, the more you will enjoy the activity. 

 

And just an fyi - I know a lot of the activities I stated above may not be appealing to most people. I am that weird 20 year old nerd that likes to wear a dress shirt/tie all the time and read science or psychology articles/watch videos on politics. It's just the type of person I am... But I do know people around my age who practice meditation and still do all of the same activities young people do but they remain detached internally. My younger brother for example, he's a huge basketball fan. Even runs a big instagram fan page. Dresses like every other 17-18 year old you see these days. But interally completely silent. He hasn't been practicing for as long but the differences I see between him and his friends are insane. 

 

I know this was a really long post - but I have very strong opinions when it comes to balancing tregun with spirituality. 

Well done!

I'm glad you are one of the few that knows; everything else goes on the back burner whilst bhagti stays at the front. 

Good lad.

14 hours ago, HisServant said:

I was trying to go to sleep sounds were getting louder. For the first time it felt as if I was connecting emotionally to the sound. It was a type of love that I can’t describe. It was a very blissful experience. And then it started feeling like the sound was communicating and sending me a message. Something along the lines of “come back to me”. 

I second the responses that @BhagatSingh gave you for this post and the sinus block.

With regards to these communication etc.. It may be good or it may be bad as Bhagat mentioned.  I agree, and will add a little from what I learned when similar happened to me.  The important point is that you should just acknowledge and move on to Simran as with any other sounds.  Don't get caught up "unless" there is  a message.

14 hours ago, HisServant said:

I woke up somewhere but everything was blurry. It didnt seem like a dream. But I can’t figure out what I was seeing or where I was. It was just a blend of colours and figures. I think I saw something like a blur of light that seemed like it had life to it or something. It was all just really confusing. I have no idea what it was

In my experience, I did go through a phase where the disorientation occurred but not the blurry figures /colors.

14 hours ago, HisServant said:

Ever since I’ve woken up I’ve felt as if I was in a dream. I am just now starting to wake out of it

^^ This part..  Yes, I know what you mean. Judging by the previous posts and the recent experiences, it all seems to tie together with a similar phase that I somewhat remember

Your dristee is opening up as I mentioned earlier and it may be possible you are also seeing other things that you could be uncertain about.   Now, with the communicating and perception of message there are two possibilities. 

1) It could be a divine message.  This can occur any time whilst in meditative state and could even be darshan of guru,  though the message will be towards the EK. 

2) It may not be divine and could be bad in the sense it being some diversion, temptation or a test.  This can take many forms and shapes and can appear as something transcending and heavenly. But you should not respond, just acknowledge and continue with Simran.

That's all I'm gonna say on 1 & 2, as I have to keep it watered down. (will elaborate in pm)

The main point and key is to keep going with Simran and just observe the rest.

On ‎6‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 8:10 AM, HisServant said:

 

 

I tried the passion flower yesterday and it did not have too much of an effect on the mind - apparently it's supposed to reduce stress and calm you down - but I am not stressed or anxious to begin with so I didn't notice anything. I did take melatonin as well before bed. But oddly (as mentioned in the experiences thread), I still woke up around 12-1 am. 

 

My intent is to keep tyrosine levels where they need to be. I'm pretty sure most people these days are deficient. 

 

I just need help setting up the right dosage amounts. I may just try taking the passion flower extract once a week  

 

As for the filter - I am returning the one I bought and buying the zerowater. However, I am slightly concerned about one thing. As a science student I know there is a pretty big difference between pH 7 and pH 8. ZeroWater keeps the water at pH 7, but because it is essentially empty of everything, it will pick up anything it can grab onto (ie CO2) - which will bring the pH to more acidic levels. And acidic water may not be the best for you. Obviously, it's not a major issue - but I wish there was a way around it. Overall, the pros outweigh the cons though because there is essentially no contaminents in the water. I'll just need to make sure I'm getting calcium and magnesium in my diet - which is not an issue at all. The following nutrients are in tap water:

"

• Calcium – important in bone health and possibly cardiovascular health

• Magnesium – important in bone and cardiovascular health

• Sodium – an important extracellular electrolyte, lost under conditions of excess sweat
• Copper – important in antioxidant function, iron utilization and cardiovascular health
• Selenium – important in general antioxidant function and in the immune system
• Potassium – important for a variety of biochemical effects (but it is usually not found in natural drinking waters at significant levels)"

^^ Most of the above are in multivitamins/can easily be consumed through diet. 

@Lucky What is your diet/supplement routine?

Okay, I think you got the Pineal supplements sorted so, I'll just give quick reply to the questions raised here last week.

Firstly, You are correct, zero water will grab CO2 from air and make some HCO3- ions. Some scientists label the  0 TDS water as "hungry". Now, what we usually do is pour it from the dispenser into a jug and add a small pinch of Pink Himalayan sea salt crystals.(just a pinch per 2 liter jug-should not taste salty at all as it will just fill in the hungry gaps.)   The salt contains between 60 to 84 trace minerals that complete the ionic energy generated if pure natural water were available.  These are just the just the 'trace minerals" and NOT the core calcium and magnesium that pure mineral water should contain.   With regards to the HCO3- issue, well the small amount Na(sodium) from the Himalayan salt will generate a small bicarbonate effect that will tend for the ph to shift towards alkaline.  I also make up electrolyte waters that we use as an needed using Vega sport electrolyte powders. 

I've been taking multivitamin and mineral supplement every day since I was a teenager (that's over 30 years!), been taking Coenzyme Q10 for nearly 24 years, and take other supplements as well. Try and get frequent superfoods like Goji berries, Kale, Avocado, wheatgrass, coconut, cinnamon, ginger, turmeric etc.. Always keep a good enough supply to make varieties of Nutribullet shakes that I consume on most days.  These change according to what I may feel I need at certain times.  

Don't be fooled though, I may sound like a health freak, but I've put my body through years of abuse as well.

6 hours ago, HisServant said:

Guys, everything in my peripheral vision is vibrating. This is insane. I have no idea what’s happening. 

Very good.    Sounds like the dristee that's associated with physical eyes. (not just mind's eye)

You are actually beginning to see more clarity and I know it seems weird at first.  I wasn't sure for quite a while and thought there were some problem with my vision.  Glad to say that there's no cause for uncertainty.

ਨੈਨਹੁ ਪੇਖੁ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਕਾ ਰੰਗੁ ॥
Nainhu pekẖ ṯẖākur kā rang.
With your eyes, see the wondrous play of your Lord and Master.

Remember I said ….

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…..It's the beginning of new phases, and you will understand it better in the coming weeks. ………...

Keep referring to gurbani and absorb the changes one by one.

3 hours ago, CuriousSeeker said:

Ive been looking into it and ojas seems to be a core part of ayurvedic thought of medicine.  I am somewhat familar with the balancing of pitta/vata/kapha in ayurveda.  Not sure how familar you are with it but ojas is linked with kapha.

If you do have yogi bachans lectures, i would be interested in reading them and his explanation of ojas.  

 

There could be a lot more to it as you say.

I've read about pitta, vata, kapha a long time ago. It made sense, but I've never viewed or applied that approach for mind, body and spirit.  There was a book that member @das had suggested called "timeless secrets" or something. by  Andreas...... ? and was an eye opener for me.

I'll see if I have those lecture notes on a hard drive somewhere, they were on an old laptop.

12 hours ago, samurai2 said:

@Lucky

Spell in english letters how you would pronounce Hari??

as I stated previously;  Here is what I considered an appropriate explanation, since there's no correct way to write how it's pronounced in English.  If anything , it will come across as 'Har'

On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 12:05 AM, Lucky said:

What I wrote in my post is referring to HARi. When someone hears this, or lets say the sound coming out of my vocal chords, then it will be heard as HAR.  On a simple mono phone line, you would perceive it as HAR, since you can't hear the vibrating "ee" effect.  You wont hear me saying Haree as in a haree Krishna type chant.    Sound is a HAR and ending in a very subtle "ee" vibration, but to average joe, it still sounds like a straight HAR.

9 hours ago, HisServant said:

Do any of you guys have experience with 5-HTP, passion flower extract or melatonin supplements? 

check this thread below... 

Passiflora extract, 5-htp, melatonin, DMT, Pineal gland are all linked. Sadly, the information you will find is pretty mishmash.  

I  know much more than back then, about what's suitable for pineal health and how dmt comes into the picture. I can advise and have some scientific material from a analytical chemist that specialized in this area.   Let me know your questions.

15 hours ago, samurai2 said:

hmm.. cool..  

a little lesson...siharee is with a little subtle "e"..."eh" if you like... biharee is a dragged out "e"..pronounced as "ee".. do you agree??

Yeh, that's the difference, you can describe it as dragged out 'e'.  I know what you mean

Did i miss something? I haven't avoided no question, i explained the subject of siharee with reference to Har-i, as I understood it.  I haven't followed this thread in detail and I haven't got the time or energy either.  I've given all the input as per my understanding, since my punjabi reading is limited based only on what I've taught myself.

6 hours ago, HisServant said:

Do any of you guys have experience with 5-HTP, passion flower extract or melatonin supplements? 

Yes

1 hour ago, HisServant said:

Is this the one you’re talking about https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B003QXM3U8/ref=pd_gwm_psimh_0?pf_rd_p=01580f21-a62c-4731-b8cb-2e2b756f7394&pf_rd_s=blackjack-experiment-1&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_r=Y0YF8Y315DEDVV7AT22B&pd_rd_wg=9QKFd&pd_rd_r=31H0YNB5DEK2JWC97PZ5&pf_rd_r=Y0YF8Y315DEDVV7AT22B&pf_rd_p=01580f21-a62c-4731-b8cb-2e2b756f7394&pd_rd_w=qUHae&pd_rd_i=B003QXM3U8

Yep, that's the one.

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 3:07 AM, Sajjan_Thug said:

Does the pavan have to be balanced in order for the mind to be stilled or can the mind be stilled without balanced pavan.

Pavan has to be balanced for mind to be still.  However, to get to the mind being still, you have to use a tool(tra) for the Mind(man).

Man-tra (mind-tool) is what we use for japna. . 

After continuing with japna technique, saas graas, saas saas, ...mind will start getting cleansed  and your sukham body will start awakening.  At the same time the pavan will start balancing and praan will start flowing in sehaj.

MInd will eventually get still and one can then start hearing shabadguru, anhad, naad, ..

The goal is Merging the mind into the pavan. 

Listening and connecting with internal shabad, results in stilling of mind.  At the same time, the pavan gets balanced and sukhmana channel can open up.

Pavan balancing or mind being still, doesn't have to occur one before the other. They both occur in parallel more or less.

The PRAAN is the life force and the imbalance of pavan is what causes thoughts.

Bhagat Kabir ji says.....

ਕੁੰਜੀ ਕੁਲਫੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖੇ ਕਰਤੇ ਬਾਰ ਨ ਲਾਈ ॥੧॥
Kunjī kulaf parān kar rākẖe karṯe bār na lā▫ī. ||1||
He made Praan the watchman for the body. with KEY and LOCK placed in this Praan to protect it ; the Creator did this in no time at all. ||1||

12 hours ago, samurai2 said:

On ‎6‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 2:18 AM, Lucky said:

 

Do you not think "ee" sound is from biharee?

Yes I do think so.

12 hours ago, samurai2 said:

So Lucky boy very simple question...in the english alphabet how do you pronounce HARi? Is it Haree in accordance to the above examples (spelt as "i" but pronounced as "ee" or as Har-eh (or Har-e (sharp e).. 

I see where you are coming from. 

What I wrote in my post is referring to HARi. When someone hears this, or lets say the sound coming out of my vocal chords, then it will be heard as HAR.  On a simple mono phone line, you would perceive it as HAR, since you can't hear the vibrating "ee" effect.  You wont hear me saying Haree as in a haree Krishna type chant.    Sound is a HAR and ending in a very subtle "ee" vibration, but to average joe, it still sounds like a straight HAR.  Key is to not finish it with a dead end "Rrr" but with R-ee. The subtle 'ee' comes with exhaling breath sound.  I think this is what you mean by sharp 'e'.

12 hours ago, samurai2 said:

ONLY?.. be careful...

This is a personal experience. Some have got to the same heights as you have described in meditation section but doing mental japp..soo?? Many pursh have had no manter??soo??

That wasn't my point. I have also invoked amrit in complete silence, just with rom rom.  The core of my Simran is mental, silent rom rom with gurushabad.  The point I was making was reference to the effectiveness of HARi if you are doing verbal jap. The effect by slight roll of tongue and finishing with subtle "ee" exhaling breath sound is significant.  Even though it is so delicate and quiet, it has the effect to strike the amrit naadis. It only works when one is at those levels with mann, and the mann has been cleansed enough.  It was at that time that I noticed there were a number of pangtees with 'amrit' and 'har' in same line. 

It is advisable to avoid fluoride if possible.

It calcifies the pineal gland; which inhibits spiritual growth and keeps your consciousness at low levels.   The pineal gland is an important seat of consciousness. If it gets damaged, then your consciousness is unable to function or improve.   Amrit nectar originates from the pineal gland.

People with highly calcified glands often have lower IQ and limited awareness. They are usually stuck in a version of reality that is not the truth, and have difficulty in gaining spiritual awareness or ever awakening to real truths …(we have a couple on the forum...lol )

I'm a firm believer of these negative fluoride effects and there have been many studies.

  After noticing how the youth around me are so dumbed down nowadays, I decided to take some steps to minimize my kids fluoride consumption to avoid them becoming like other post millennials.  

I've been using "Zerowater" for nearly 2 years to remove all traces of any dissolved solids in water.  It removes everything and seemed to be the answer after doing some reading around..    Tap water contains lead, chlorides, bromides, mercury, phosphorus , and dozens of other traces.  ALL 'halides'(chloride, fluoride, bromide) can calcify the pineal gland.   

I'm not sure about other filters, because they all seemed to have pro's and con's. Some left the lead in, some  just removed calcium which causes scaling, some made water more alkaline and some just removed one or teo of something else.....so I thought it easier to remove everything and make sure we were consuming necessary trace minerals via other sources.  I was trying to consume the most nearest to natural water, as God had intended. (ph7 neutral).   

However, like I say, you miss out on important minerals like copper, silver, magnesium, chromium...etc  and TBH, Nowadays, we can't get these from fruit and veg either because even with organic, the quality of soil is not the same as it were for our ancestors.  So, I make sure we are getting these trace minerals via supplements. I try and get ones derived from whole foods rather than synthetic.  

Since I've only used the zero-water and it has been doing the trick, I can only suggest this.  If you are able to return the one you purchased, then give it ashot. We have the larger water tank with filter in the fridge and I have noticed that my kids are more aware and have a good depth for understanding truth. Water quality is pretty good in Vancouver as I've only had to change the filter once in 2 years!

On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 7:02 PM, paapiman said:

In this situation, IMHO, you can follow the timings of Punjab.

There are two options:

• If the sunset is at 6:30 pm in Punjab, you can do your meditation or Sri Reharaas Sahib jee after that time (that is 6:30 pm GMT).
• When it is 6:30 pm in Punjab, your time will be 1 pm GMT. Therefore, you can do meditation after that time (anytime between 1 pm GMT till sunset). Nowadays the sunset in Punjab is around 7:10 pm (1:40 pm GMT). Around that time, Paath of Sri Rehraas Sahib jee will commence at Sri Harmandar Sahib jee and other historic Gurudwaras in Punjab. 

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 9:06 AM, paapiman said:

Well, the vibrations being emitted by all historical Gurudwaras in India would be very strong. One just needs to be at a spiritual level (obviously very high) to be able to tune the mind to them. 

It will be a lot easier for a person to tune his mind to those frequencies, if he has physically been to those places (Gurudwaras) and done intense meditation there.

Ridiculous!

You need to find out what amrit vela means and why it's called amrit vela.

Your logic is not gurmat. It's your own mind's manmat.

Guru's mat says

ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥
Gur saṯgur kā jo sikẖ akẖā▫e so bẖalke uṯẖ har nām ḏẖi▫āvai.
One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name.

25 minutes ago, paapiman said:

The Har mantar is already incorporated within the Waheguru Mantar (making the Waheguru mantar much stronger than the Har Mantar).

The Vaheguru mantar is made of four letters

V - Represents Vasudev Mantar

H - Represents Har Mantar

G - Represents Gobind Mantar

R - Represents Ram Mantar

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I was waiting to state this after I could sense angy15's next question brewing up... The missionary ..."Where in SGGSji does it say Waheguru is gurmantar?"

3 hours ago, HisServant said:

They seemed impressed but also didn’t give me any details.

heh. heh.  lol.  I know.    It'd be foolish to try and tell someone what may happen after a slumber event. It's the beginning of new phases, and you will understand it better in the coming weeks. 

Sometimes we forget our states of mind too easily. It may be a good idea to keep a log or journal of your daily events, experiences and emotions..  Just carry on in the same way with your studies and simran. 

18 hours ago, paapiman said:

"Sohang" translates to "He is me", indicating that "I AM GOD". Well, it describes the essence of reality, but for Jagayasus it can have a negative effect. Most Jagayasus (their minds) are contaminated by Ego/pride

I understand what you mean about the "he is me",  and I would also agree with your understanding. Nevertheless, I can explain about the technique/intention they use with So-Hang jap, but firstly could you explain what "Jagayasus"  means?  (I'm not sure if I understood it correctly)

Now, with the So-Hang jap. I believe they do it as 2 syllables of So and Hang. ... so-hang...so-hang...so-hang.....  They can do it in single breath or a So and Hang in separate breaths.

The idea is to get so absorbed in the sound of mantar; that it becomes both So-Hang  and Hang-So..  Should be heard as if it is Hang-so and also So-Hang is being uttered.  Similar to when a person can't differentiate whether one is saying so-hang or hang-so.  

This is their way to take you to jyoti-jyot milayee.   "I am him"  and "He is me".  so-hang,  hang-so