Jump to content

Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev Sahib Jee


Recommended Posts

Today, June 16th is the Shaheedi divas of Shaheedaan de sirtaaj, Pancham Patshah, Sahib Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj.

Bhai Gurdaas Ji in Vaars Bhai Gurdaas on Ang 24

AlK inrMjnu AwKIAY Akl Ajoin Akwl Apwrw]

alakh nira(n)jan aakheeai akal ajon akaal apaaraa||

The Lord is without blemish, beyond birth, beyond time and is infinite.

riv sis joiq audoq lµiG prm joiq prmysru ipAwrw]

rav sas joth oudhoth la(n)gh param joth paramaesar piaaraa||

Crossing the lights of sun and the moon, Guru Arjan Dev Loves the supreme light of the Lord.

jg mg joiq inrMqrI jg jIvn jg jY jY kwrw]

jag mag joth nira(n)tharee jag jeevan jag jai jai kaaraa||

His light is ever effulgent. He is the life of the world and the whole world acclaims him.

nmskwr sMswr ivic Awid purK Awdysu auDwrw]

namasakaar sa(n)saar vich aadh purakh aadhaes oudhhaaraa||

All in the world salute him and he, ordained by the primal Lord, liberates one and all.

cwir vrn iCA drsnW gurmuiK mwrig scu Acwrw]

chaar varan shhia dharasanaa(n) guramukh maarag sach achaaraa||

Amidst the four varnas and six philosophies the way of the Gurmukh is the way of adoption of Truth.

nwmu dwnu iesnwnu idiV gurmuiK Bwie Bgiq insqwrw]

naam dhaan eisanaan dhirr guramukh bhaae bhagath nisathaaraa||

Adopting the remembrance of the name (of Lord), charity and ablution steadfastly and with loving Devotion, he (Guru Arjan Dev) gets the devotees across (the world ocean).

gurU Arjnu scu isrjxhwrw ]18]

guroo arajan sach sirajanehaaraa ||18||

Guru Arjan is the True builder (of the Panth).(18)

Bhai Gurdaas Ji in Vaars Bhai Gurdaas on Ang 24

rihdy guru drIAwau ivic mIn kulIn hyqu inrbwxI]

rehidhae gur dhareeaao vich meen kuleen haeth nirabaanee||

Liberating the soul from the body, Guru (Arjan Dev) stabilised himself in the water of river as the fish remains in water.

drsnu dyiK pqMg ijau joqI AMdir joiq smwxI]

dharasan dhaekh patha(n)g jio jothee a(n)dhar joth samaanee||

As the moth throws itself into the flame, his light mingled with light of the Lord.

sbd suriq ilv imrg ijau BIV peI iciq Avru n AwxI]

sabadh surath liv mirag jio bheerr pee chith avar n aanee||

Caring not for life, as the deer keeps its consciousness concentrated when in peril, the Guru also, when undergoing suffering kept none else except the Lord in his consciousness.

crxkvl imil Bvr ijau suK sMpt ivic rYix ivhwxI]

charanakaval mil bhavar jio sukh sa(n)patt vich rain vihaanee||

As the black bee remains enrapt in the petals of flower to enjoy fragrance, the Guru also spent night of suffering by keeping joyfully his concentration on the feet of Lord.

guru aupdysu n ivsrY bwbIhy ijau AwK vKwxI]

gur oupadhaes n visarai baabeehae jio aakh vakhaanee||

The Guru like a rain bird spoke to his disciples that the teachings of the Guru should not be forgotten.

gurmuiK suK Plu iprm rsu shj smwiD swD sMig jwxI]

guramukh sukh fal piram ras sehaj samaadhh saadhh sa(n)g jaanee||

The pleasure fruit of the Gurmukh (Guru Arjan Dev) is the delight of Love and he accepts the Holy Congregation as the natural state of meditation.

gur Arjn ivthu kurbwxI ]23]

gur arajan vittahu kurabaanee ||23||

I am sacrifice unto Guru Arjan Dev.(23)

Guru Sahib set an unparallel example in human history by accepting to sit on the hot iron plate (thathee thavee), and had hot sand poured over His head. We also know that by this shaheedi Gurujee taught us to live in bhana, and not use powers. Along with all this, we should also take a look at a little background behind Gurujee's shaheedi. Chandu wanted to take revenge after Gurujee rejected his daughter's rishta with Sahib Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Maharaj Sachay Patshah. This was done because Chandu uttered severely insulting words for Gurughar. The Sikh sangat of Delhi requested Gurujee not to accept any rishta with Chandu. Also, it was Chandu who ordered all the tortures on Gurujee. Now the way I see it, Gurujee accepted shaheedi just to uphold the honor of the bachans of His Sikhs. He suffered that unimaginable torture just for maintaining the dignity of the request of His Sikhs. This makes me think, if my Guru can accept this worst torture just for fulfilling the request of His Sikhs, how can we ever doubt such a Guru while doing Ardas? Wouldn't He listen to our Ardas as well?

Bhagat Prahlad was asked to embrace a hot pillar. He was undoubtedly among the highest bhagats we have had, but his mind wavered, and only when he saw an ant crawling on the pillar, did he feel confident enough to go ahead and embrace the pillar. Hazrat Ibrahim (Prophet Abraham) who is deeply respected by Jews, Christians and Muslims was asked to walk over red hot burning coal to prove his love and faith in Akal Purakh. No doubt he was a very chardi kala mseesnger of Akal Purakh, but his mind wavered as well. Akal Purakh turned the red hot coal into flowers, and Hazrat Ibrahim walked over them.

However, Sahib Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj did not leave any doubts in the minds of the people of the world. He sat on the red hot iron plate without any hesitation, and had really hot sand poured on His head. Jesus had said "Oh my Lord, why have you forsaken me" when he was crucified, but Guru Sahib said

qyrw kIAw mITw lwgY ]

thaeraa keeaa meet(h)aa laagai ||

Your actions seem so sweet to me.

hir nwmu pdwrQu nwnku mWgY ]2]42]93]

har naam padhaarathh naanak maa(n)gai ||2||42||93||

Nanak begs for the treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||2||42||93||

Dhann Dhann Shaheedaan de sirtaaj Pancham Patshah Sahib Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj.

~ Mehtab Singh

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ਜਪ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਅਰਜੁਨ ਦੇਵ ਗੁਰੂ ਫਿਰਿ ਸੰਕਟ ਜੋਨਿ ਗਰਭ ਨ ਆਯਉ ॥੬॥

Jap▫ya▫o jinĥ arjun ḏev gurū fir sankat jon garabẖ na ā▫ya▫o. ||6||

Whoever meditates on Guru Arjun Dayv, shall not have to pass through the painful womb of reincarnation ever again. ||6||

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7HjxRyOwRo...re=channel_page

Martyrdom of Guru Arjan

http://sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Martyrdom_of_Guru_Arjan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

you praised Guru Arjan Dev by slighting other peoples' religious figures? is that the best you could do?

'oh our prophet was better than theirs'

Yes those 2 comparisons are disturbing & messes up the whole article. A bit of indian drama added out of habit perhaps.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you are talking about Jesus Christs quotation on the cross, no point blaming people for quoting it, as this is the translation that the 'Church' has endorsed, we read, use and compare against as they have made us believe it was said.

The 'banned' gospels told a different story.

Aramaic scholar George Lamsa translated this line very differently:

"My God, my God, for this [purpose] I was spared!", implying 'this was my destiny'.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you are talking about Jesus Christs quotation on the cross, no point blaming people for quoting it, as this is the translation that the 'Church' has endorsed, we read, use and compare against as they have made us believe it was said.

The 'banned' gospels told a different story.

Aramaic scholar George Lamsa translated this line very differently:

"My God, my God, for this [purpose] I was spared!", implying 'this was my destiny'.

No I'm talking about the Bhagat Prehlad and the Islamic Hazrat.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fateh!

What is the problem with a Sikh considering Guru Arjan Dev Ji to be superior to the prophets of other religions? If you do not believe that the Gurus and their teachings were spiritually superior to the prophets and books of other religions, why be a Sikh at all? Why not follow these other prophets instead?

What the author of the article is saying is true: whereas Bhagat Prehlad had to be reassured before he accepted God's command, and where Abraham had to rely on a miracle to escape injury, Guru Arjan Dev accepted His bhana without hesitation and without exercising any spiritual power. In doing so, Guru Arjan Dev gave inspiration to regular Sikhs, who may not have had the bhagti and shakti to perform miracles, to accept martyrdom and to say, with Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Teraa keeyaa meethaa laagai.

Regards,

K.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i didnt even get as far as seeing the reference to Jesus. I always found that 'Why hast Thou forsaken me' deeply profound and not something that detracts from Christ's divinity at all.

kaljug he could have made this point about Guru Arjans humanity- if he was even making that point at all- without these comparisons. so the use of comparisons is not what you are trying to make out.

who is the person being praised in that artical? Guru Arjun, or the person's 'own prophet'- who happens to be Guru Arjan Ji.

This person is praising themself not Guru Arjan.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

so when guru arjan dev ji writes, "sab te vada satgur nanak", (ਸਭ ਤੇ ਵਡਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਕਲ ਰਾਖੀ ਮੇਰੀ ॥੪॥੧੦॥੫੭॥ highest of the high is satguru nanak, ang 749) , is guru arjan dev ji praising himself?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

jsingh69, i think you are making a poor attempt to be clever rather than giving any sincere response. but this seems common on this site so i will entertain your post for once:

so you are saying that in this statement it is Guru Arjun himself who is speaking and He is calling Himself Nanak (and not Nanak) and is singing his own praise? and can you please elaborate with regards to the grammar how you came to conclusion?

p.s. would you please provide the logical step from my post to yours?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

let me break down your logic navjot:

- you took offensive or opposed G.Kaur's post where she implied that Guru Arjan Dev Ji was better than other prophets

- you opposed this on the basis of saying:

"who is the person being praised in that artical? Guru Arjun, or the person's 'own prophet'- who happens to be Guru Arjan Ji.

This person is praising themself not Guru Arjan."

- thus you would infer that praising ones Guru to be the best is to praise oneself because he is the follower of the best guru

- taking your logic, I have shown a thuk from gurbani where Guru Arjan Dev Ji says Guru Nanak is the highest of all

- from your logic shown above would that not mean (to you only) that Guru Arjan Dev Ji is praising himself because he has the highest Guru?

- what is wrong from saying Guru's are higher than any other Prophet that has ever come in this world?

- if there is something wrong, please explain that line in gurbani for us

Link to comment
Share on other sites

oh dear.

so you are seriously comparing this mehtab singh to Guru Arjan?

if that is indeed the meaning of the salok you quoted (im not so sure it is) then tell me where Guru Arjan is belittering others to make this point?

theres a difefrence between 'oh my teacher is greatest...he did this for me/he has this quality' and 'oh my teacher is great...because theirs is weak'.

i cant even believe i have to explain this!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

oh dear.

so you are seriously comparing this mehtab singh to Guru Arjan?

if that is indeed the meaning of the salok you quoted (im not so sure it is) then tell me where Guru Arjan is belittering others to make this point?

theres a difefrence between 'oh my teacher is greatest...he did this for me/he has this quality' and 'oh my teacher is great...because theirs is weak'.

i cant even believe i have to explain this!

Sab to vadda means greatest of all - it's superlative which includes the comparative (greater than) by implication.

K.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

oh dear.

so you are seriously comparing this mehtab singh to Guru Arjan?

Are you seriously educated at any level? I am not comparing the writer with Guru Sahib, but rather was comparing the difference between their statements.

Let me explain to you how this works...

If my friend says "eating an apple a day is healthy" and you disagree that is fine. But then if I cite a reference to someone you hold dear, like a Guru or maybe your father, who also agrees with my friend, then I am trying to show you that other people also have this opinion and maybe you should reconsider your belief. This is in no way comparing my friend to your Guru, father or whoever I may mention.

Here is a link that may be of service to you

http://www.amazon.com/Vivendi-Universal-71...s/dp/B00005J8D3

Link to comment
Share on other sites

theres a difefrence between 'oh my teacher is greatest...he did this for me/he has this quality' and 'oh my teacher is great...because theirs is weak'.

Furthermore, no where in that article did Mehtab Singh use the argument that "my teacher is great because theirs is weak". That would mean that it is simply the other prophets/avatars/holymen's weakness that makes Guru Arjan Dev Ji so great. Mehtab Singh clearly wrote the gunn of Guru Sahib and then expanded by showing that this gunn has previously not been shown in various other avatars/prophets/holy men; making Guru Arjan Dev Ji's Shahidi so unique.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

kaljug... 'jini kal raakhi meri'.

i didnt object to someone liking their own prophet most of all (which in normal instances is human nature anyway) i objected to the use of belittling others. it wasnt neceesary. at the end of today if tommorow some hindu or muslim puts up a similar artical sleighting a Guru then you people will probably start screaming your heads off rather than saying 'oh but its natural for them to think that...'

jsingh yawn keep playing rhetorical games if you want to, its a classic sign of 'trying to win an arguement'. the tone of the artical is obvious. if you want to try and put Mehtab Singhs self congratulatory nonesense in line with Gurbani in order to play a rhetorical game to protect your ideological brothers' face then thats just sad. your analogy with the apple is so pathetic in this respect that im speachless. i suggest you reread.

like i said to kaljug "jini kal raakhi meri'. You didnt even bother quoting this part in your english rendering. You are so shameless that you just grabbed what you could. This salok is saying (it seems to me?) though the speaker knows nothing except that greater than knowing anything great (look at the salok preceding) is knowing Guru Nanak who held his back the speakers sins. are you so sly and shameless that you think you can take half of a salok to push your arguments?

p.s. sidenote- i wouldnt usually even comment on any Salok if i had no understanding of Gurbani Grammar, but its obvious here that neither of you do either

Link to comment
Share on other sites

we should end this end with a excellent quote from maha kavi bhai santhok singh ji:

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਾਨਕ ਪੁਰੁਸ਼ੋਤਮੰ ਪਰਮ, ਪਰਾਵਰ ਨਾਥ ॥

Sree Naanak Purushotamam Param, Paraavar Naath

Oh Sri Nanak, greatest and most superior of beings, the master of all

ਯੁਗਲ ਚਰਨ ਮਮ ਬੰਦਨਾ ਧਰ ਪਰ ਧਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਮਾਥ ॥

Yugal Charan Mam Bandnaa Dhar Par Dharikari Maath

I place my head to the ground in salutations to both your lotus feet.

- ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×
×
  • Create New...