Spokesman Editor's Anti Sikh Activities Exposed

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This is from current issue of another heretic magazine India awareness.

ਉਸ ਦਿਨ ਸਪੋਕਸਮੈਨ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਮੇਰੇ ਦਿਲ ਦਿਮਾਗ ਤੇ ਮਾਰੀ ਗਈ ਇਹ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਸੱਟ ਸੀ। ਇਸ ਲਈ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਯਕੀਨ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ ਆ ਰਿਹਾ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਬਕਵਾਸ ਸ: ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਮੁਖਾਰਬਿੰਦ ’ਚੋਂ ਨਿਕਲੀ ਹੈ। ਮੈਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਕਾਬੂ ‘ਚ ਰੱਖ ਕੇ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਉ¤ਤਰ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਸ ਵਕਤ ਬੜੀ ਹਲੀਮੀ ਨਾਲ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਕਿ ਵੀਰ ਜੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਜਿਸ ਸਿਧਾਂਤ ਨੂੰ ਬਚਾਉਣ ਦੀ ਅਸੀ ਅੱਜ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹਾਂ। ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਾ ਉਹ ਵੱਡਮੁੱਲਾ ਸਿਧਾਂਤ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਪਿਆਨਾ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ ਹੀ ਖ਼ਤਮ ਹੋ ਜਾਣਾ ਸੀ। ਅਗਰ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਉਸ ਦੀ ਵੱਡੀ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਡੀ ਕੀਮਤ ਤਾਰ ਕੇ ਹਿਫਾਜਤ ਨਾ ਕਰਦੇ। ਉਸ ਵਕਤ ਉਥੇ ਮੌਜੂਦ ਬਹੁਤ ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਦੇ ਹਿਰਦੇ ਪੀੜਤ ਹੋ ਗਏ ਜਾਪਦੇ ਸਨ। ਉਸ ਵਕਤ ਸ: ਬਚਿੱਤਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਆਹਲੂਵਾਲੀਆ, ਜੋ ਇਸ ਇੱਕਠ ਵਿੱਚ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਵਾਰ ਗਏ ਸਨ ਅਤੇ ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ ‘‘ਏਕਸ ਕੇ ਬਾਰਕ’’ ਜੱਥੇਬੰਦੀ ਦੇ ਲਾਈਫ ਮੈਂਬਰ ਬਣਨਾ ਸੀ, ਉਸੇ ਵਕਤ ਆਪੇ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਹਰ ਹੋ ਗਏ। ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਮਹੌਲ ਤਲੱਖ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਵੇਖ ਕੇ ਸ: ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੱਲਬਾਤ ਦਾ ਵਿਸ਼ਾ ਬਦਲ ਲਿਆ ਪਰ ਜੋ ਬੀਜ ਅਚਾਨਕ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਸੀ, ਉਹ ਉ¤ਗ ਹੀ ਪਿਆ ਹੈ।

17 ਮਈ ਦੇ ਸਮਾਗਮ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਮੈਂ ਅਤੇ ਸ੍ਰ. ਬੱਚਿਤਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਆਹਲੂਵਾਲੀਆ ਨੇ ਸ੍ਰ. ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਦਾ ਪਿੱਛਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਅਤੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਗ੍ਰਹਿ 19 ਸੈਕਟਰ ਵਿਖੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਤਕਰੀਬਨ ਦੋ ਘੰਟੇ ਲੰਬੀ ਭੇਟ ਵਾਰਤਾ ਹੋਈ। ਇਹ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਵਾਰ ਸੀ ਕੇ ਮੈਂ ਭਾਈ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਸਾਹਮਣੇ ਸ਼ੱਕੀ ਮਨ ਨਾਲ ਗਈ ਸੀ ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਇਸ ਲਈ ਦੋਸ਼ੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਇਹ ਸ਼ੱਕ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਬਿਆਨਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਸੀ। ਇਸ ਵਾਰ ਵੀ ਸ. ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਤੇ ਨੌ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਵੱਡਾ ਬੰਨ ਮਾਰਦਿਆਂ ਹੋਇਆ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਉਲਟਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਕੀਤਾ ਕਿ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਕੋਲ ਨੌਆਂ ਗੁਰੂਆਂ ਦੀ ਹੋਂਦ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਸਬੂਤ ਹੈ। ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਪਿਛਲੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਇਤਿਹਾਸਕ ਦਸਤਾਵੇਜ਼ ਗੁੱਮ ਹੋ ਚੁੱਕੇ ਹਨ। ਉਹ ਬੜੇ ਸਪੱਸ਼ਟ ਸ਼ਬਦਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਅਰਜਨ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੰ੍ਰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਸੰਪਾਦਨਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤੀ। ਉਹ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਦੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਲੋਂ ਰੱਖੀ ਗਈ ਬੁਨਿਆਦ ਤੋਂ ਵੀ ਪੂਰੀ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਇਨਕਾਰੀ ਹਨ। ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਜਾਣਕਾਰ ਸੂਤਰਾਂ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਉਹ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਖੰਡੇ ਦੀ ਪਾਹੁਲ ਛਕਾਉਣ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਕਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਪੂਰੀ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਰੱਦ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ।

ਜ਼ਿਕਰਯੋਗ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਸ: ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਿੱਖ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਤੋਂ ਨਾ-ਵਾਕਿਫ ਨਹੀਂ ਹਨ ਬਲਕਿ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਜਿਹਾ ਕਹਿਣ ਅਤੇ ਕਰਨ ਲਈ ਤਿਆਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਸ: ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀਆਂ ਬੇਸਿਰ-ਪੈਰ ਦੀਆਂ ਦਲੀਲਾਂ ਸੁਣਕੇ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਨਜ਼ਰੇ ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਮਾਨਸਿਕ ਰੋਗੀ ਜਾਪਦੇ ਹਨ ਪਰ ਜਦੋਂ ਉਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਚਿਹਰੇ ’ਤੇ ਨਜ਼ਰਾਂ ਟਿਕਾ ਕੇ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾਵੇ ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਕਿਸੇ ਵੱਡੀ ਸ਼ਾਜਸ਼ ਦੇ ਰਚੇਤਾ ਨਜ਼ਰ ਆਉਂਦੇ ਹਨ। ਕੁਲ ਮਿਲਾ ਕੇ ਇਸ ਵਿਅਕਤੀ ਨੇ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਦੇ ਮਜ਼ਬੂਤ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਾਲ ਭਵਨ ਦੀਆਂ ਨੀਹਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਬੜੀ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ਨਾਲ ਬਾਰੂਦ ਵਿੱਛਾ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ - ਬਸ ਪਲੀਤੇ ਦਾਗਣ ਲਈ ਸਹੀ ਸਮੇਂ ਦੀ ਉਡੀਕ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾ ਰਹੀ ਹੈ।

ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਸਪੋਕਸਮੈਨ ਦੇ ਵਿਸ਼ੇ ’ਤੇ ਬੁੱਧੀਜੀਵੀ ਸਿੱਖ ਬਹੁਤ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਹੀ ਚਿੰਤਤ ਸਨ ਪਰ ਸਾਡੇ ਵਰਗੇ ਜਜ਼ਬਾਤੀ ਵਹਿਣ ‘ਚ ਵਹਿਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਲੋਕ ਮੱਛੀ ਵਾਂਗ ਪੱਥਰ ਚੱਟ ਕੇ ਹੀ ਪਿੱਛੇ ਮੁੜਦੇ ਹਨ। ਦਰਅਸਲ ਸ: ਜੋਗਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਤੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਸਾਥੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਨਾਂ ’ਤੇ ਭੁਲੇਖਾ-ਪਾਊ ਖੇਡ ਖੇਡ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਕਦੇ ਹਰੀ ਰਤਨ ਯੁਗਤਾ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੂੰ ਮੱਥਾ ਟੇਕਣ ਤੇ ਸਵਾਲ ਖੜਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਸਵਾਲ ਤੇ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਤੜਫ ਉ¤ਠਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਯੁਕਤਾ ਜੀ ਸਦਾ ਲਈ ਕਲਮ ਤੋਂ ਸੰਨਿਆਸ ਲੈਣ ਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਣ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ। ਇਸੇ ਦੌਰਾਨ ਦੇਸ਼ ਦੀਆਂ ਇਟੈਂਲੀਜੈਂਸੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਯੁਕਤਾ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਸੁਰੱਖਿਆ ਦੀ ਫਿਕਰ ਪੈ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ। ਇਸਦਾ ਖੁਲਾਸਾ ਵੀ ਯੁਕਤਾ ਜੀ ਖੁਦ ਹੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ। (ਇਸ ਕਸ਼ਮਕਸ਼ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਟੈਂਲੀਜੈਂਸੀਆਂ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਜਤਾਉਣ ਦਾ ਰੁਝਾਨ ਬੜੇ ਵੱਡੇ ਸਵਾਲ ਛੱਡ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਜੋ ਇੱਕ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਵਿਸ਼ਾ ਹੈ।) ਕਦੇ ਸਪੋਕਸਮੈਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਤੇ ਕੁਹਾੜਾ ਚਲਾਉਂਦਾ ਭਸੌੜੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਲੇਖ ਛੱਪਦਾ ਹੈ। ਕਦੇ ਸ੍ਰ: ਦਰਬਾਰਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਿਊਣਾ ਦੇ ਲੇਖ ਨੂੰ ਆਧਾਰ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਦਾਅਵਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੰ੍ਰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਗੱਦੀ ਨਾ ਦੇ ਕੇ ਗੱਦੀ ਤਾਂ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਸੀ ਜਦ ਕਿ ਸਹੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਇਹ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਦਸ਼ਮੇਸ਼ ਪਿਤਾ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੰ੍ਰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਗੱਦੀ ਸੌਪ ਕੇ ਪੰਥ ਨੂੰ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਤਾਬਿਆਦਾਰ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਸੀ। ਸਪੋਕਸਮੈਨ ਦੀ ਮਾਰਫ਼ਤ ਇਹ ਸ਼ੋਸ਼ੇ ਵੀ ਛੱਡੇ ਗਏ ਹਨ ਕਿ ‘ਆਦਿ ਬੀੜ’ ਗੁੰਮ ਹੋ ਚੁੱਕੀ ਹੈ।

ਅੰਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਕੁਝ ਪਿਛਲੇ ਸਵਾਲਾਂ ਦੇ ਜਵਾਬ ਦੇਣੇ ਵੀ ਜ਼ਰੂਰੀ ਹਨ। ਅਗਰ ਉਪਰ ਦੱਸੇ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਅੱਗੇ ਗੱਦੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਚਲਾਈ ਤਾਂ ਫਿਰ ਲਾਜ਼ਮੀ ਤੌਰ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਅੰਗਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਗੁਰਗੱਦੀ ਸਾਜਸ਼ ਕਰਕੇ ਹਥਿਆਈ ਸੀ। ਪਰ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ ਉਸ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਅਦ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਨੁਕਸਾਨ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ? ਫਿਰ ਇਹੀ ਸਵਾਲ ਪੀੜੀ ਦਰ ਪੀੜੀ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਾਂ ਦੇ ਸਿਰਤਾਜ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਅਰਜਨ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਤੱਕ ਪਹੁੰਚਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਅਗਰ ਪੰਜਵੇਂ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹ ਨੇ ਆਦਿ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦਾ ਸੰਪਾਦਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਫਿਰ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੰ੍ਰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਰਗਾ ਅਨਮੋਲ ਖਜਾਨਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਭੇਟ ਕਿਸਨੇ ਕੀਤਾ? ਇਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਅਗਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਨੀਂਹ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਰੱਖੀ ਗਈ ਤਾਂ ਫਿਰ ਪੰਥ ਦੀ ਵਿਲੱਖਣ ਹਸਤੀ ਨੂੰ ਕਾਇਮ ਰੱਖਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਇਹ ਮਹਾਨ ਸੰਸਥਾ ਕਿਸ ਦੀ ਦੇਣ ਹੋ ਸਕਦੀ ਹੈ? ਰਿਹਾ ਸਵਾਲ ਖੰਡੇ ਦੀ ਪਾਹੁਲ ਦਾ, ਅਗਰ ਦਸ਼ਮੇਸ਼ ਪਿਤਾ ਜੀ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਇਸਦਾ ਆਗਾਜ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਤਾਂ ਫਿਰ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਨੂੰ ਲਾਮਬੰਦ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲਾ ਸ਼ਕਤੀ ਦਾ ਇਹ ਸੋਮਾ ਕਿਸ ਨੇ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਹੈ? ਉਪਰ ਦੱਸੇ ਗਏ ਸਾਰੇ ਸਵਾਲਾਂ ਦਾ ਇੱਕ ਹੀ ਉ¤ਤਰ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਉਪਰੋਕਤ ਵਰਗੀਆਂ ਵੱਡਮੁੱਲੀਆਂ ਦਾਤਾਂ ਕੋਈ ਅੱਤ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਹੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਪਿਆਰਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਦੇ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ, ਜੋ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਆਪਣੇ ਪੁੱਤਰਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਵੀ ਵੱਧ ਪਿਆਰ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲਾ ਅਤੇ ਜੋ ਮਨੁੱਖਤਾ ਦਾ ਹਾਮੀ ਹੋਵੇ।

‘ਏਕਸ ਕੇ ਬਾਰਕ’ ਜੱਥੇਬੰਦੀ ਦੇ ਜਰੀਏ ਸਿੱਖ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ ਤਾਕਤਾਂ ਸਿੱਖ ਧਰਮ ਨੂੰ ਰਾਧਾ ਸੁਆਮੀਆਂ ਵਰਗੀ ਹਿੰਦੂਆਂ ਦੀ ਇੱਕ ਸ਼ਾਖਾ ਬਣਾ ਦੇਣਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ। ਇਨਾਂ ਸਮੂਹ ਡੇਰਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਜਾਲ ਹੀ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਧਰਮ ਦੀਆਂ ਸ਼ਾਖਾਵਾਂ ਵਜੋਂ ਬਣਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਜੁੜਨ ਵਾਲਾ ਸ਼ਰਧਾਲੂ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤਾਂ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਰਹਿ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਸਿੱਖ, ਸਿੱਖ ਨਹੀਂ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ। ਇਸ ਵਕਤ ਸਮੂਹ ਸਿੱਖ ਜੱਥੇਬੰਦੀਆਂ ਅਤੇ ਚਿੰਤਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਆਪਣੀ ਹਊਮੈ ਅਤੇ ਲਾਲਸਾ ਤਿਆਗ ਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਮੰਚ ਤੇ ਇੱਕਠੇ ਹੋਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਹੈ। ਨਹੀਂ ਤਾਂ ਦਰਿਆਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਤਾਰੂ ਪਿਆਲੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਡੁੱਬ ਜਾਣਗੇ ਅਤੇ ਅਸੀਂ ਸਾਰੇ ਅਕ੍ਰਿਤਘਣ ਹੋ ਜਾਣਗੇ।

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[The Khalsa Fauj]

Full article is available at link below:

http://www.indiaawareness.com/archives/aug...sman_editor.htm

[singh2]

Full article is available at link below:

http://www.indiaawareness.com/archives/aug...sman_editor.htm

This joginder singh was the man who spearheaded blasphemy against Dasam granth sahib in league with gurtej IAS. He started with Dasam granth and now he is challenging sikh Gurus and Sri guru granth sahib. He was the second man to be excommunicated after kala afghana. He is in fact a man who has left sikh religion and is wearing a burqa of sikh identity to carry out his propaganda.That is what we were telling that these people will do in the long run.

These Gurnindks main aim is to finish sikhism which of course they will not succeed. So all their bla bla about Dasam granth sahib is propaganda and that propaganda is aimed at SGGS also.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Inder Singh Ji, I understand your concern about Spokesman Editor but why are you placing all anti-DG people into same category? That is like saying all granthis are luchas just because one got caught filming a bibi on camera. Lets no generalize. Let us tell you, we are more hurt about what people like spokesman say than you. You get a tip to trash talk anti-DG people and label them as anti-Guru. By the way, above article is written by a bibi who herself is against Dasam Granth. Lets not link opposition of Dasam Granth to activities of certain individuals.

[singh2]

Inder Singh Ji, I understand your concern about Spokesman Editor but why are you placing all anti-DG people into same category? That is like saying all granthis are luchas just because one got caught filming a bibi on camera. Lets no generalize. Let us tell you, we are more hurt about what people like spokesman say than you. You get a tip to trash talk anti-DG people and label them as anti-Guru. By the way, above article is written by a bibi who herself is against Dasam Granth. Lets not link opposition of Dasam Granth to activities of certain individuals.

That shows how you people have been fooled by this heretic. he is the man who started the attack on Dasam granth along Kala afghana and gurteja Ex IAS. now he has come to SGGS ji That is what you peopel will do. Already a few heretics of your gang are speaknig against khande bate di pahul.

He was wrong in the begining and is wrong now as well. All anti DG people are anti khnade bate di pahul also.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

That shows how you people have been fooled by this heretic. he is the man who started the attack on Dasam granth along Kala afghana and gurteja Ex IAS. now he has come to SGGS ji That is what you peopel will do. Already a few heretics of your gang are speaknig against khande bate di pahul.

He was wrong in the begining and is wrong now as well. All anti DG people are anti khnade bate di pahul also.

Inder Singh Ji!

I understand your concern about those who are against Khanday Baatay Dee Pahul and Guru Ji. I am not against any of this. Please don't put all anti-DG people into same basket. That is like me putting all pro-DG people into RSS basket. It doesn't work like that. Spreading hatred for each other will never bring us to a solution. We must spread brotherly love and try to find solutions and answers to problems we are facing. Our kaum is facing more problems than anyone. We have more issues to solve than any other kaum. When we have one Guru, one philosophy, why do we have so many issues in kaum? We need to sit together and find solutions to these problems. Spreading hatred isn't the way. If some naastics try to hijack the anti-DG group to reject Khanday Kee Pahul, it will not work for those naastics. I am sure you know who and what I am talking about. Instead of running away from these people, we must counter them and ask questions.

[singh2]

Inder Singh Ji!

I understand your concern about those who are against Khanday Baatay Dee Pahul and Guru Ji. I am not against any of this. Please don't put all anti-DG people into same basket. That is like me putting all pro-DG people into RSS basket. It doesn't work like that. Spreading hatred for each other will never bring us to a solution. We must spread brotherly love and try to find solutions and answers to problems we are facing. Our kaum is facing more problems than anyone. We have more issues to solve than any other kaum. When we have one Guru, one philosophy, why do we have so many issues in kaum? We need to sit together and find solutions to these problems. Spreading hatred isn't the way. If some naastics try to hijack the anti-DG group to reject Khanday Kee Pahul, it will not work for those naastics. I am sure you know who and what I am talking about. Instead of running away from these people, we must counter them and ask questions.

Dasam granth is a scripture of tenth master and well established in sikhism since it was written. Who gave anybody a right to criticize this Granth. Only a nindak who does not wish well of sikhs will do nindya of this granth. This started with a well planned conspiracy headed by kala afghana, spokesman, Gurteja later joined by ragi darshan, Gurcharan jeonwala etc. Why will RSS support Dasam granth when its contents condemn Avtarvaad in strongest language. RSS will like it to be derogated through their agents.

Now this gang is spreading hatred towards SGGS, khnadey bate di pahul and other sikh Gurus. What right jeonwala got to criticize Dasam bani when he is not Amritdhari even? You are the one who criticize three banis of Dasam granth with which we take amrit. You criticize Jaap sahib also.What amounts to that? That amounts to an unsikh act. So you yourself are a member of this gang.

You guys are the ones who want to bring a revolution in sikhism by doing away with established sikh traditions. You guys are the ones who have spread enough hatred among sikhs that it has come to boiling point. You guys are the ones who stoop from a normal human behavior and use a goonda language for the banis of dasam granth. You need to sop that. You need to act instead of advising otehrs. Naale chor nale chattar.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Dasam granth is a scripture of tenth master and well established in sikhism since it was written. Who gave anybody a right to criticize this Granth. Only a nindak who does not wish well of sikhs will do nindya of this granth. This started with a well planned conspiracy headed by kala afghana, spokesman, Gurteja later joined by ragi darshan, Gurcharan jeonwala etc. Why will RSS support Dasam granth when its contents condemn Avtarvaad in strongest language. RSS will like it to be derogated through their agents.

Now this gang is spreading hatred towards SGGS, khnadey bate di pahul and other sikh Gurus. What right jeonwala got to criticize Dasam bani when he is not Amritdhari even? You are the one who criticize three banis of Dasam granth with which we take amrit. You criticize Jaap sahib also.What amounts to that? That amounts to an unsikh act. So you yourself are a member of this gang.

You guys are the ones who want to bring a revolution in sikhism by doing away with established sikh traditions. You guys are the ones who have spread enough hatred among sikhs that it has come to boiling point. You guys are the ones who stoop from a normal human behavior and use a goonda language for the banis of dasam granth. You need to sop that. You need to act instead of advising otehrs. Naale chor nale chattar.

I am not a chor or a chattar. I just state what I see. Like I said before, if some person claiming to be anti-DG opposes Khanday Kee Pahul, he has no value. I look at those people as sarkari agents trying to defame the image of anti-DG people in public. The link you have given is also from anti-DG site. I told you before, I am not against DG because of kala afgana or spokesman or Gurtej Singh. I haven't even read their books. I learned about spokesman about 3 years ago. You can see that I have been opposing DG for more than that. We can sit and discuss Dasam Granth and come to a conclusion.

[singh2]

I am not a chor or a chattar. I just state what I see. Like I said before, if some person claiming to be anti-DG opposes Khanday Kee Pahul, he has no value. I look at those people as sarkari agents trying to defame the image of anti-DG people in public. The link you have given is also from anti-DG site. I told you before, I am not against DG because of kala afgana or spokesman or Gurtej Singh. I haven't even read their books. I learned about spokesman about 3 years ago. You can see that I have been opposing DG for more than that. We can sit and discuss Dasam Granth and come to a conclusion.

These are the people who misled people like you and indiaawareness on Dasam granth sahib. Now they ahve exposed that they do not even recognise SGGS ji also. You people are still not understanding and your opposition to dasam granth is an anti sikh activity. Do not consider yourself a sikh if you oppose bani of tenth master.

Your boss Gurcharan jeonwala was here in bay area. There were singhs wanting to see him. he just took to heels. You say that you guys wanted to have debate on dasam granth. What sort of debate you would have when you run away at the sight of singhs. You Have no shame also when you say that you want to have a debate whereas your boss played a hide and seek yesterday for the whole day. He refused to have any debate and did not disclose his whereabouts.

Read below

http://www.sawaddinewsusa.com/

Your boss Gurcharan jeonwala also speaks against SGGS ji. I have proof with me.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Inder Singh,

Your hate is blinding you. How is jeonwala my boss? He might be your boss because you are so interested in him. I told you before, he has his own views and group. I am not linked to his group in any manner. I told you to call Jeonwala to debate with him because I got nothing to do with Jeonwala.

My boss is Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Any issues with Guru Granth Sahib Ji? If you think you are going to lure me to your side by showing hate, you are more lost than one can imagine. Who is your boss? S K Sudarshan?

[singh2]

Inder Singh,

Your hate is blinding you. How is jeonwala my boss? He might be your boss because you are so interested in him. I told you before, he has his own views and group. I am not linked to his group in any manner. I told you to call Jeonwala to debate with him because I got nothing to do with Jeonwala.

You are the one who was giving his tour programme on the internet and this site. You are the one who was saying that he will visit western canada and we can have debate with him. If you had no link with him how did you know his programme.

Now you are disowning him.

You might have seen my views about suderashan but i am yet to see you arguing with sudershan supporters. You will not because there is a link.

[singh2]

Inder Singh,

Your hate is blinding you. How is jeonwala my boss? He might be your boss because you are so interested in him. I told you before, he has his own views and group. I am not linked to his group in any manner. I told you to call Jeonwala to debate with him because I got nothing to do with Jeonwala.

This is how you were promoting him in one of your posts. Now you rae turning your back. You were also promoting Rozanaspokesman and Jasbider singh of Dubai.

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"By the way, Gurcharan Singh Jeonwala is taking a Western Canadian tour early next week. You boys feel like having a LIVE debate in Vancouver. No Funding & Crappy Excuses this time please! Let me know, and I will email to him so that you guys can get your local ‘scholars’ ready and give them a pep talk, if you have any"

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So you people say something and then say another after sometime.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

You are the one who was giving his tour programme on the internet and this site. You are the one who was saying that he will visit western canada and we can have debate with him. If you had no link with him how did you know his programme.

Now you are disowning him.

You might have seen my views about suderashan but i am yet to see you arguing with sudershan supporters. You will not because there is a link.

I have had talk with Sudarshan chelas in public. Bring more and we will handle them. I don't see any Sudarshan chelas on this forum. Do you? I knew about his travels because he drives a truck so he often goes to USA. He lives in basically same city as me so it is not like I don't get information on his activities and travels. It is also not that I don't talk to him. I don't really call Jeonwala unless he calls me. However, I do call Davinder Singh at times. Am I Davinder Singh chela too? I talk to anyone who talks to me. Basically, my point is that you don't become a chela of someone by talking to someone. You are talking to me, are you my chela?

This is how you were promoting him in one of your posts. Now you rae turning your back. You were also promoting Rozanaspokesman and Jasbider singh of Dubai.

Jaswinder Singh Dubai and Spokesman are unrelated. I will support anyone who preaches Gurmat and doesn't oppose Guru Granth Sahib Ji or KHanday Kee Pahul. If someone changes and goes the wrong way, I will oppose that person. The day Jasbinder Singh says something against Khanday Kee Pahul or Guru, I will oppose him.

Quote by fauji

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"By the way, Gurcharan Singh Jeonwala is taking a Western Canadian tour early next week. You boys feel like having a LIVE debate in Vancouver. No Funding & Crappy Excuses this time please! Let me know, and I will email to him so that you guys can get your local ‘scholars’ ready and give them a pep talk, if you have any"

I did say that and will say that again. I said that because Jeonwala posted on www.sikhmarg.com giving challenge to debate. Why he didn't want to debate this time is not known to me. I am not aware of the situation. If I see Jeonwala at some program or if he calls me, I will try to find out why he refused to debate. It is not up to me to force someone to debate. To tell you the truth, I don't like to talk much with Jeonwala. He turns basic comments into arguments which I don't like about him.

So you people say something and then say another after sometime.

Call up Jeonwala, ask him when did I become a member of his organization? Do you see anything from me on his website? Ever wonder why? I just talked about this with another singh, he believes that Jeonwala will not back out from DG talk. I said it before too, I have no group links to Jeonwala. I have talked to you more than I have talked to Jeonwala. I have talked more to Davinder Singh than I have talked to Jeonwala. I told you before too, come to Toronto if you want a discussion with me.

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I have had talk with Sudarshan chelas in public. Bring more and we will handle them. I don't see any Sudarshan chelas on this forum. Do you? I knew about his travels because he drives a truck so he often goes to USA. He lives in basically same city as me so it is not like I don't get information on his activities and travels. It is also not that I don't talk to him. I don't really call Jeonwala unless he calls me. However, I do call Davinder Singh at times. Am I Davinder Singh chela too? I talk to anyone who talks to me. Basically, my point is that you don't become a chela of someone by talking to someone. You are talking to me, are you my chela?

Jaswinder Singh Dubai and Spokesman are unrelated. I will support anyone who preaches Gurmat and doesn't oppose Guru Granth Sahib Ji or KHanday Kee Pahul. If someone changes and goes the wrong way, I will oppose that person. The day Jasbinder Singh says something against Khanday Kee Pahul or Guru, I will oppose him.

I did say that and will say that again. I said that because Jeonwala posted on www.sikhmarg.com giving challenge to debate. Why he didn't want to debate this time is not known to me. I am not aware of the situation. If I see Jeonwala at some program or if he calls me, I will try to find out why he refused to debate. It is not up to me to force someone to debate. To tell you the truth, I don't like to talk much with Jeonwala. He turns basic comments into arguments which I don't like about him.

Call up Jeonwala, ask him when did I become a member of his organization? Do you see anything from me on his website? Ever wonder why? I just talked about this with another singh, he believes that Jeonwala will not back out from DG talk. I said it before too, I have no group links to Jeonwala. I have talked to you more than I have talked to Jeonwala. I have talked more to Davinder Singh than I have talked to Jeonwala. I told you before too, come to Toronto if you want a discussion with me.

It is the beginning of of a good start for you if you break with such atheists. May be Guru sahib will show his mercy and you will stop slandering tenth master's bani.