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Culture and Religion, where do we draw the line?


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whats ur views ji????

Lot of youths gettin wrong idea of sikhi.. They think relegion and culture are more less the same thing...But actually its not....Its a close boundary... I think parents need to learn more about sikhi then the kids... I think parents are influenced more with the culture than the relegion itself... vaishakhi is coming .. people who will have go to nagark kirtan including parents, kids they think vaishakhi its more like an mela than an LOVE-SCARIFICED FOR GURU JI ..

KHALSA PANTH IS CREATED BY A SWORD DRIPPING WITH BLOOD OF PANJ PYAREIZ THEN THIS PEOPLE CLAIM ITS AN MELA... ASK EM.. IS IT REALLY????????? WHAT IN THE BLOODY HELL YOU BE TAKING????

I M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARENTS THEN THE YOUTHS.. BECAUSE YOUTHS.. THEY GOT ENUF UMAR.. THEY WILL REALIZED ONE DAY OR ANOTHER..BUT PARENTS ARE JUST IN THE VERGE OF GETTIN OLD AND IN THE VERGE OF GETTIN KICKED IN THE ARSE BY THEIR SPOIL KIDS.. WHAT THEN?? THEN THEY WILL TAKE AMRIT SOO THAT THEY CAN GET HAPPINESS... OH CMON... SEE HOW PEOPLE IN DUKH RUN OFF TO VAHEGUROO JI .. WHATS HAPPENINGIN IN SUKH MOOD??? MORGA EATING, DRINKING, PLAYIN GLAMBING IN CASINO, DAD OF A SON/DAUGHTER DOIN THEIR STEP MOM AND LOT OTHERS...

ITS PSYCHO HERE IN CANADA... ..EVERYONE IS ONE STEP AHEAD.. ...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.. VAHEGUROOO VAHEGUROOO AKEL BAKSHOOO :D

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We are going to have to learn to live with the fact that there is going to be many more ppl calling themselves Sikhs than there are living the Sikh lifestyle.

All we can do is educate the youth - starting as young as possible as to the beuty and wonder of their own fathj and ask them to embrace it.

At the moment most ppl talking to the youth have there heads so far up there own asses its a wonder they can see anything at all.

They usually rant on about ppl betraying there guru and the evils of cutting there hair and blah blah blah.

We have to learn to preach without patronising and showing compassion to our audience - u want them to feel good about going to talks and lectures not make them feel guilty cos they had a beverley the night before or have cut hair.

U need to inspire them intio Sikhi not scare them into it and lead by example.

To many ego's and way to much hypocrisy in our current crop of "bible bashing" preachers.

I would advise anybody to go to any talk where "Bhai Roop Singh" is attending - he has to be the best inspiration to the Sikh youth ive ever seen - ive seen hioma couple of times and everytime i come back feeling glad i went witha few things to think about in my head - in one word hes a DUDE !!!

we need more ppl willing to inspire the youth rather than piss them off by preaching AT them

thats my opinion anyway :$

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Harps Bhaiji, i have to agree with you on Bhai Roop Singh! Went to one of his talks and he was, inspirational! Straight to the point with no namby pambying around certain issues.

We attatch ourselves to the punjabi culture, absorb this into sikhi and say, well its all part of being sikh. The heavy drinking, the bhangra, things which have nothing to do with sikhi. On Vaisakhi, you see them running around with flags, beeping thier horns and remembering they are Sikh for a day. Yet, some people you see, have the jhanda in one hand and a fag in the other. Vaisakhi for some, has been stripped down into something which has go nothing to do with sikhi, but attaches it to cultural practices.

Does being Punjabi makes us Sikh? If you look at those people who have chosen sikhi as their path, the ones who have converted, they do not have the culture attatched to them. They practice Sikhi in its whole essence. They, i feel, are better off and probably stronger sikhs than most, including me. The idea of castes, the idea that loving bhangra for some reason makes you more sikh and other things are of no consequence to them.

lol, i think i went a tad off the topic, not unusual for me!! My only excuse is that its late at night :LOL:

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back in the day - the punjabi culture was the thing that was in the background

many people used it as a fashion statement - ie - putt jattan de song - the guns - the zameen - the drinking

but nowadays - its sikhi which has taken the background stance - and punjabi culture is in the forefront

where nowadays these punjabi singers use sikhi as a fashion statement - the khandey and karey...

the mix between punjabi culture and sikhi is very dangerous - its like chalk n cheese - they dont go together very well

in my belief - someone who adopts sikhi - will throw away the punjabi culture - the drinking - the ego - the bhangra all that crap

:D fateh

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