Ardaas To Sants?

[Silence]

Just wondering what people think about doing ardaas to sants, obviously not formal standing up ardas, but mental ardas to sants for help? Including sants that have gone to sachkhand. Have any mahapurash ever spoken on this issue, can it be found in Gurbani or in old texts?

[harsharan000]

Dear Silence,

people usually think in the same terms as you also.

But thanks to the Bani, we do have logic and well based answers for this your particular question, which is quite beautifull by the way.

Sants, Sadhs, Gurmukhs, Brahmgyanis are different words .... but refer to the highest level of consciousness, to an highest avastha, such as of Wahiguru, because He Himself has descended to our human level, to take those wadbhagge jeevas back with Him.

The Bani says: Jin Har japiyaa, se Har hoeeyaa.

You see, there in Sach Khand, only He exists...and whosoever reaches there by His grace, becomes Him, by merging in Him.

For example, here in this world, someone X goes from Ludhiana to Jalandhar, that person remains the same, he remains with his individual identity, he is the same X person. Because of the layers of mind and different bodies upon the soul.

But in the pure spiritual realms, it is not like that. In order to reach Sach Khand, all these layers are shed away, the soul drop becomes pure, in order to merge in Satnam samundra.

Or do you think, all our Gurus, and other bhagats are sitting around Him in His court Sach Khand? That idea is wrong and baseless.

Each and everyone wants to merge in Him...nobody wants to retain its fake identity, such as dharam, mazab, caste, class, community...etc

In Sach Khand there are no multitudes, only He exists.

So if we need to pray, let us pray to the only one eternal Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

Sat Sree Akal.

[Singh123456777]

I only ask for things from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and nobody else.Only satguru Ji can give me what I want.

[harsharan000]

Every opinion is respected, having said that, doesn´t the Bani say: Vin boliyaan, sabh kich jaanda.

So if He knows everything, where is the need to ask?

And moreover, He, who has the power to give, has He not, the power to know also?

We are still moorakhs, we treat Wahiguru with our limited, poor and dull vision.

You see, whatever we have to receive or give is already written on our foreheads before we are born, whether we like it or not, that also per His laws, not becuase He interferes in His laws by manipulating them, as these are established by Him also, for the perfect functioning of the creation.

Anyhow, if ever we have to ask Him anything, we must ask Him, to make us sit at the Lotus Feet of His Gurmukhs, in the Sadh kee sangat,where we may learn to love Him, as they are His embodiments.

The Bani says: Prabh jee baseh, sadh ke hirdey. Prabh jee baseh sadh kee rasna.

This is no man made statement, this is His Bani, which nobody can alterate it, whether one may like it or not, one may agree or not, but they are the words of Wahiguru, through our Guru Sahibans.

The words uttered by our Guru Sahibans, can never be erased, they are eternal, as long as the creation is there.

These words are full of His truth, which can be the cause for us, to obtain liberation and bliss, and not only that, but be worthy, to merge in Him.

hum moorakh, Tum chatur siaaney...

Edited February 3, 2014 by harsharan000