JOYce Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 FAITH An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on, “The problem science has with Krishna”. He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Professor: You are a Hare Krishna devotee, aren't you, son? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So you believe in God? Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure. Prof: Is God all-powerful? Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to Krishna to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But Krishna didn't. How is this Krishna good then? Hmm? (The student is silent.) Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start Again, young fellow. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good? Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God... Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct? Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? (The student does not answer.) Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them? (The student has no answer.) Prof: Tell me, son. Do you believe in Krishna? Student: Yes, professor, I do. Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Krishna? Student : No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your Krishna? Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your Krishna, tasted your Krishna, smelt your Krishna? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Krishna or God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes. Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your Krishna doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes, Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness? Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how? Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, professor. Do you teach tour students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter) Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face Unfathomable.) Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. Student: That is it sir. The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. Love All Serve All .......Be Happy Always. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Wonderful !!! I am proud of your collection JOYce... Keep Positing... Love Aman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOYce Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Wonderful !!! I am proud of your collection JOYce... Keep Positing... Aman Thanx a lot for UR appriciation. But i have a problem to do so. Coz there is no such parameter to evaluate my (or anyonez else) posting, wheather how good or bad they R. I found most of the community only want to feel the sea from shore & never take any libirty to put their efforts in between. Even most of them cant post thier felling bout the postings. Then how can u expect good litrature when there is no evaluation & no critisism, which is the must as per me. SSA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOYce Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Once there was a bus conductor, who was very rude to his passengers. One day a beautiful young girl, of around 18 years,tried to board the bus, but he didn't stop the bus. Unfortunately the beautiful young girl came under the us and died on the spot. Angry passengers took the conductor to the police station, who in turn took him to the court. The judge was not at all impressed with him and gave him capital punishment.He was taken to the electrocution chamber. There was a single chair in the center of the room and a single banana peel at one corner of the room. The conductor was strapped to the chair and high voltage current was given to him. But to everyone's amazement, he survived. The judge decided to set him free, and he returned to his profession. After a few months, this time, a good looking middle aged woman tried to board the bus but the conductor didn't stop the bus.Unfortunately, this time also,the good looking middle aged woman came under the bus and died on the spot. Again angry passengers took him to the police station, who in turn took him to the court. The judge took one look at the conductor and gave him capital punishment. The Bus conductor was taken to the same electrocution chamber where there was a single chair in the center of the room and a single banana peel at one corner of the room. He was strapped to the chair and high voltage current was given to him. This time also to everyone's amazement, he survived. The judge decided to set him free, and he returned to his profession. A couple of months later, an elderly gentleman tried to board the bus. This time the Bus conductor, remembering his earlier experiences, stopped the bus. Unfortunately the elderly gentleman slipped and died due to his injuries. The conductor was taken to the police station and then to the court, to the same judge. Though he hadn't done anything wrong, but considering his past record the judge decided to set an example and gave him capital punishment. The Bus conductor was again taken to the same electrocution chamber where there was a single chair in the center of the room and a single banana peel at one corner of the room. He was strapped to the chair and high voltage current was given to him. This time he died instantly !!!!!!!!!!! The question is why didn't he die on the first two occasions, but died instantly the third time?? Try to solve it yourselves. This is rather interesting and answer is perfectly logical. If necessary read the puzzle once again. Still you couldn't, Then see below......... think hard tired.... wanna know the answer???? Answer : During the first two times, the conductor was a Bad Conductor,therefore electricity didn't pass through him. But during the third time, he was a good conductor, electricity passed through him freely and he died!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: !!!!!!!! Obviously you gotta revise your science chapter on Electricity ??? OK, OK.... No violence please... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Joyce, This is gurbani and gurmat discussion. Please post your messages in right section. Otherwise it will be moved.. Its been moved before...so please spare us some less moderating. :roll: Anymore messages in wrong section, shall be moved without notice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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