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Few questions..some what Sikh Philosphy related


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ok, here's a conversation between me and a friend on AIM.

the part that is isolated in brackets [] is what my friend copied to me from another conversation

Khalistani Singh (3:35:37 PM): [(3:32:23 PM): i was readin this convo sharon sent me about jiten

(3:32:28 PM): it made me all depreesed

(3:32:33 PM): he can't talk

(3:32:42 PM): he looks totally different

(3:32:47 PM): so much shit

(3:32:57 PM): fuckin makes me soo sad ]

Khalistani Singh (3:32:57 PM): yeah

[ (3:33:27 PM): she was like..dude dat made me soo depressed

(3:33:30 PM): itz bad

(3:33:41 PM): i had no idea how bad it was

(3:34:02 PM): the kid is letterally jus surviving

(3:34:18 PM): i feel so bad

(3:34:24 PM): so i was writing bak to her

Khalistani Singh (3:34:41 PM): yeah

(3:35:10 PM): i hope baba ji helps him through this ]

natsilahk (3:36:07 PM): what happened to "jiten" ?

Khalistani Singh (3:36:13 PM): um

Khalistani Singh (3:36:50 PM): car accident

Khalistani Singh (3:36:51 PM): with buddies

Khalistani Singh (3:36:56 PM): after coming form some frat party

natsilahk (3:36:57 PM): damn

Khalistani Singh (3:36:58 PM): driving back home

Khalistani Singh (3:37:02 PM): someone fell asleep

natsilahk (3:37:03 PM): drunk? speed?

natsilahk (3:37:06 PM): or someone else hit them?

Khalistani Singh (3:37:09 PM): fell asleep

natsilahk (3:37:14 PM): ahh damn man

natsilahk (3:37:17 PM): that sucks

Khalistani Singh (3:38:04 PM): yeah

Khalistani Singh (3:38:12 PM): u think

Khalistani Singh (3:38:17 PM): waheguru helps then?

natsilahk (3:38:21 PM): no..

Khalistani Singh (3:38:21 PM): :-

natsilahk (3:38:24 PM): Dukh meh simran sub kareh, sukh meh kareh na koi. Joh sukh meh simran kareh, toh dukh kahey hoi

Khalistani Singh (3:38:29 PM): yeah

Khalistani Singh (3:38:31 PM): whateva that means

Khalistani Singh (3:38:34 PM): but we pray to god

Khalistani Singh (3:38:37 PM): to make ourselves feel better

Khalistani Singh (3:38:39 PM): correcto?

natsilahk (3:38:52 PM): Everyone prays to god when they are sad. Those are the singhs that pray during all multiple seasons of life

natsilahk (3:39:40 PM): its somethign along those lines

Khalistani Singh (3:39:55 PM): yeah

natsilahk (3:41:04 PM): see thas what im sayin

natsilahk (3:41:11 PM): like if somethin were to happen to amritdhari sikh

natsilahk (3:41:13 PM): n it wasnt his fault

natsilahk (3:41:18 PM): u think "gurus kirpa" would come into effect?

Khalistani Singh (3:41:25 PM): ah

Khalistani Singh (3:41:28 PM): no?

natsilahk (3:41:35 PM): so then "why me" ?

Khalistani Singh (3:41:40 PM): thas the logical way

Khalistani Singh (3:41:43 PM): what u mean why me

Khalistani Singh (3:41:49 PM): sikhi is a way of life

natsilahk (3:41:49 PM): the guy would question...why me

Khalistani Singh (3:41:51 PM): not what happens

Khalistani Singh (3:41:58 PM): why u got into an accident

Khalistani Singh (3:41:59 PM): just life

natsilahk (3:42:01 PM): nah

natsilahk (3:42:03 PM): im talkin like

natsilahk (3:42:04 PM): cancer..

Khalistani Singh (3:42:11 PM): cause u just got it

Khalistani Singh (3:42:15 PM): practical

Khalistani Singh (3:42:17 PM): lol

natsilahk (3:42:18 PM): lol

Khalistani Singh (3:42:20 PM): something in ur body

Khalistani Singh (3:42:21 PM): duh

natsilahk (3:42:22 PM): great answer haha

natsilahk (3:42:26 PM): yeah i guess

Khalistani Singh (3:42:29 PM): the

Khalistani Singh (3:42:30 PM): lord doesnt

Khalistani Singh (3:42:32 PM): give u cancer

Khalistani Singh (3:42:34 PM): for the hell of it

natsilahk (3:42:48 PM): so then wouldnt he ask "why me"

natsilahk (3:42:51 PM): if im amritdhari

natsilahk (3:42:52 PM): wtf did i do

Khalistani Singh (3:42:54 PM): something

Khalistani Singh (3:42:57 PM): just happens in ur body

natsilahk (3:42:58 PM): some gene jus f**kd itself

Khalistani Singh (3:43:01 PM): yeah

Khalistani Singh (3:43:02 PM): or u like

Khalistani Singh (3:43:06 PM): got too much radiation

natsilahk (3:43:47 PM): i guess, i dont know

natsilahk (3:43:54 PM): thas like mad atheistic views

natsilahk (3:44:03 PM): u sure thas what SIKHI says...or is that what just your mind says

Now, me and him both hope to become amritdhari this year (hopefully on vasaikhi)...but we come across many people whom when asked a question, respond with "Gurus Kirpa" (Gurus Choice/Path).

We both dont acknowledge that as an appropriate answer as we think fate mostly lies in our hands. (I guess its somewhat of an athiestic viewpoint).

Can someone tell us if its just our own creation of philosphy or whether this is in Sikhism too? And what would happen to the above mentioned problem...would Waheguru really look out for the injured victim? Or did it just happen because random things happen.

For reference :

natsilahk = me.

Khalistani Singh = Khalistani Singh on this board (he posts with the same nick)

-Hareet

To Admins - If any curses were leaked in the conversation that were not already edited by me, please edit them out of the post. As I may have missed some.

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