chatanga Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I have listend to Baba Santa Singh Ji's katha of "Guru Nanak Aap Parmeshwar..." from Sri Sarbloh Granth and in that Baba Ji talks about paramhans. Nowwhen i have darshan of Sant Ishwar Das' ashram in Jalandhar, one of the sewaks there told me there were 4 types of udasi namely : 1. kesa dhari 2. jatta dhari 3. paramhans 4. sorry i have forgot this one. Paramhans he explained to me was those saints who kept their head clean shaved or bald or also shaved thier faces, like the budhist monks you see these days. I am sure you may have seen this udasi's. However Baba Ji talks about paramhans thus: One day a Sikh asked Guru Amardas , who is Paramhans? I have heard of hans which eats pearls, but not paramhans... Guru Ji replied " O Sikh all you who repeat the name of the lord are Param Hans, just as thehans takes pearls for sustenance you take the pearls of the Lord's name. You are all Paramhans. These days Paramhan are callled those who remove the hair from thier face and head. They by removeing their hair have become incomplete, They are not Paramhans who are "ghorn-morn". Also Baba Ji talksabout the other panth in particualr Jain , and brifly on others. He talks about whosever gain a bit of knoeledge started his own sect. Please listen to this and give your views. I got the feeling that Baba Ji's views were that these panths gave nothing or little to bring the world to true Dharma. Am I wrong? chatanga 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I have heard of hans which eats pearls, but not paramhans Paramhans is the one who divides ignorance from truth (tat vichar/tatgyan), literally speaking hans that divides pearl from milk or water etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 So are the Udasi who are shaved head and face able to claim thier are paramhans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 off course and people who judge others by their apperance are known as "chamars" because they have "cham dristhi" and people who look at their atamik jevan known as bhram dristhi wale. But i m sure you already know this since you are katha vachik. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Im not sure where you got this idea that im a katha vachak, cos i deffo am not. have you listened to the katha which i have mentioned earlier? If so what do youthink that Baba Santa Singh Ji's point is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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