tva prasad Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 "Jab lag khalsa rahe niara tab lag tej dioon mein sara. Jab eh gaye bipran ki reet mein na karoon in ki parteet." Does this shabad have a deeper meaning than the normal "don't indulge in brahminical rites" translation or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Which Granth is this line from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 hours ago, tva prasad said: Does this shabad have a deeper meaning than the normal "don't indulge in brahminical rites" translation or not? Jab eh gaye bipran ki reet mein na karoon in ki parteet. The above means "When Khalsa adopts contrary ways (meaning when they go against Gurmat), they will loose my confidence/trust". Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 8 hours ago, paapiman said: Jab eh gaye bipran ki reet mein na karoon in ki parteet. The above means "When Khalsa adopts contrary ways (meaning when they go against Gurmat), they will loose my confidence/trust". Bhul chuk maaf During Gurur ji's time the brahmins were greedy and only holy outwards, thus being hypocrites, can this also tie into this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 11 hours ago, chatanga1 said: Which Granth is this line from? Not sure. I'm guessing dasam granth, although those missionaries like Dhunda have said it, twisting the meanings and stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 16 hours ago, tva prasad said: During Gurur ji's time the brahmins were greedy and only holy outwards, thus being hypocrites, can this also tie into this? Not all Brahmins were greedy and hypocrites. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted August 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 13 hours ago, paapiman said: Not all Brahmins were greedy and hypocrites. Bhul chuk maaf Yeah but some were. But I get what you're saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 9 hours ago, tva prasad said: Yeah but some were. But I get what you're saying. Maybe the verse also applies directly to corrupt clergy. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 6:43 AM, tva prasad said: "Jab lag khalsa rahe niara tab lag tej dioon mein sara. Jab eh gaye bipran ki reet mein na karoon in ki parteet." Does this shabad have a deeper meaning than the normal "don't indulge in brahminical rites" translation or not? ਬਿਪ means a Brahmin, but it also means a Rishi (Saint). ਬਿਪਰੀਤ - means ਉਲਟਾ (contrary). ਬਿਪਰਨ does not exist in Mahan Kosh. @amardeep - Can you please check Gur Giraarth kosh and see if this word is mentioned there? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) has the contrary Edited September 1, 2018 by amardeep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paapiman Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 6:41 AM, amardeep said: And Brahmin I don't see ਬਿਪਰਨ in the images you posted. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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