Orchids Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=15026&t=15026 i read the above site and i get paralysed at night sometimes and cant move for some seconds its a terrible feeling this does not happen much any more but i was looking for a explanation as to what might be the paralysing thing i feel and i read the above site and it said its ghosts this is very distressing i go into being paralysed and everything is functioning around me the radio is on but my body is paralysed and i have 2 concentrate really hard on waking me up if i dont i go into a bad dream what shall i do` 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I used to have that a lot before: I was suddenly attacked by something in my sleep, something that wanted to get me. My body would be paralised but I would be fully consicuous. I would try to shout but no sound would come out of my mouth. With time I realised that I had to fight that thing and trust Mul Mantar is th best. Some people say that it these thinsg are due to drak forces and others say that it is purely biological. Anyway Mula mantar or any prayer surely helps in any case. If you believe it's dark forces it will drive them away. If its biological repeating the prayer will trigger you into waking up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsingha Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Visit the nearest Ayurvedic Acharya who is skilled in the arts of 'Grahha Chikittsa'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Narsingha, I think he need some spirtual healing than going to these Ayurvedic Akhara. In my view, spirtual healing is the best solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akalbir Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I had the same thing before as well...I even heard it's growlings and chattering in my ear before. Usually it would be forced away when i start thinking Waheguru or Har Har in my mind then I could gradually start to speak it out loud. I haven't had problems like this for a while. There are no ayurveds here so thats out of the question for me. I spoke with quite a few religious leaders from different religions about it. They all seem to say the same things. When you are startiing to grow spiritually this happens to scare you away. Jewish Rabbis said that it usually happens to religious people or those that are becoming more spiritual and are meant to do something of some sort. Some also said that it is a hungry ghost type being that sees a person with strong energy and light, so they try to take some from them. I really don't know what it is, but It's a little scary, thats for sure. akalbir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 You are absolutely right akalbir. I have found that most religions talk about this issue. It happens to people who start doing more and more meditation, simran etc.. The more you try to come near Akal Purakh the more the spirits of this world will try to drag you down. Catholic mystics go through even more extreme forms of persecution by demons. Cases like Marthe Robin and Padre Pio, both stigmatic mystics, were tortured physically every Friday of their lives by invisble forces. Marthe Robin, who has paralytic, would be projected out of her bed and banged against the wall. She would be covered in bruises and her stigmata would be bleeding profusely. Both cases have been checke by the highest medical authorieties of their times: doctors said that there was 'no scientific explanation' for these phenomena. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsingha Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Narsingha, I think he need some spirtual healing than going to these Ayurvedic Akhara. In my view, spirtual healing is the best solution. Perhaps if you knew what an Ayurvedic Acharya does then you wouldnt have come out with such a lame statement... :roll: Such incidents are well documented in Indian medical and spiritually inclined literature. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Are you telling me this Ayurvedic Acharya is more effective than "Mool Mantra" and "Guru Mantra". No thanks i ll stick with Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar Sikhi! :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhi Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 whoa... i would suggest, Orchids, that you follow shaka laka's advice. it works. i can guarantee it cuz i did the same thing. but make sure you're always asking for help from God and SGGSJ. that'll help you for sure. i can guarantee that too. apart from that, good luck, and let us know how things are going... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsingha Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Are you telling me this Ayurvedic Acharya is more effective than "Mool Mantra" and "Guru Mantra". No thanks i ll stick with Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar Sikhi! :roll: I guess its time I explained what an Ayurvedic Acharya is before you carrying on making a muppet of yourself. An Ayurvedic Acharya refers to an invidiual who is skilled in Ayurveda. Some who specialise in 'Grahha Chikittsa' diagnose problems related to demons, pyschology and psychiatry. They will presribe methods that help the individual on the road to inner peace and spirituality. For example, if the individual is 'Sikh', one technique utilised is reading scripture that is calming and soothing, such as Sukhmani Sahib, Anand Sahib, Mool Mantra, or sing Kirtan in the correct 'Raag' that stimulates calm and 'Shaant Ras'. Anyway, thats just one treatment of many. Btw, the Sikh Gurus were all practitioners of Ayurveda in some form or another and much of their life was based upon Ayurvedic principles. In addition, Baba Teja Singh Nirmala and Sanatan Sikh Shastar Vidiya Gurdev Nihang Baba Ram Singh (as featured on the Sanatan Sikh websites) are acknowledged Ayurvedic Acharayas. Ayurveda is not as anti-Sikh as you may think. I'd be interested to see what advice people come up with on this thread, and then compare this to methods of treatment advocated in Ayurveda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Btw, the Sikh Gurus were all practitioners of Ayurveda in some form or another and much of their life was based upon Ayurvedic principles. In addition, Baba Teja Singh Nirmala and Sanatan Sikh Shastar Vidiya Gurdev Nihang Baba Ram Singh (as featured on the Sanatan Sikh websites) are acknowledged Ayurvedic Acharayas. Ayurveda is not as anti-Sikh as you may think. Why dont you start off by giving reference that sikh guru's were all practitioners of Ayurveda acharya. just like them ... http://ayurvedaacharya.com Why would i claim this vidiya an anti- sikh??? No vidiya is anti sikh... Are your imagination running wild or is there something you have against me?? I would merely pointing out spirtual healing of reciting mool mantar, gurmantra is more effective than ayurvedic acharaya. First of all: 1. Ayurvedic acharya akhara's may not be there where orchid reside. Even if akhara is there, they may charge him to heal him compare to recite mool mantra, gurmantra which is nobodies private property. Anyone can recite it and benefit from it. 2. Nirmalie and Nihang baba ram singh might have learned this vidiya to help others outside of sikh dharma because they cant really give them mantra so in order to benefit humanity they learned and help those who are in needy. I have posted my pro and cons. Now, Why dont you give me reason for you recommending orchid to go to ayurvedic acharya akhara over just reciting mool mantra, gurmantra in his place and in his leisure time????? I ll await for your reply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Certain cases of demonic infestation, psychosomatic cases might need a more profound diagnose. In some cases reciting universally true prayers is not enough. Hence the reason why certain ayurvedic acharyas need to be consulted . At the end of the day you don't pay for a mantra but pay for the years that person has spent learning this vidya. Nirmalas were only able to teach Sikhs for free because they had jagirs and received generous donations from rich SIkhs. How would a hungry person be able to perform inetllectually? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Are you telling me this Ayurvedic Acharya is more effective than "Mool Mantra" and "Guru Mantra". No thanks i ll stick with Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar Sikhi! :roll: Veer N30S!ingh, He is not trying to tell you anything but helping our younger brother. Is there harm in telling other remedies if they can help him? Yes, there is power in mool mantar but what if it’s merely a medical problem? Also, Ayurvedic is pure form of healing. Our Sikhs used to take advantage of Ayurvedic when there was no 911 or Para-medics and they still do in India. Definitions of Ayurvedic on the Web: Type of medicine practiced in India for the past five thousand years, which identify a person’s constitution and treats the person with diet, exercise, meditation, herbs, massage, sun, and breathing to bring harmony to the physical, mental, and spiritual health of the individual. naam-arthritis.lle.org/glossary.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Also, try to help our younger brothers fellas and this short chit-chat should be taken into that private box we have as "feature" on his forum. I don't want him to become more sick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Admin, Please let him respond. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyDudesWassup Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 It happened to me before as well and Simran brought me out of it. Its called "Sleep Paralysis" Just typed it up on google, hope this helps: http://www.arts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html http://www.castleofspirits.com/sleep.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchids Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Also, try to help our younger brothers fellas and this short chit-chat should be taken into that private box we have as "feature" on his forum. I don't want him to become more sick. im not going 2 sleep ever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 good night!hahahahahahhaha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Orchid here you should do: Its much more conveinent. You can do this in your home and you dont need go pay to any akhara. Everyone can do it..even dumbest person can do it thats how easy Guru Nanak Dev Sikhi is! - Fill up a glass of water and recite 108 Mool Mantar daie paat(Nanak Hos Bhi Sach Tak)... make sure you hold the glass while doing. After you done, drink the water. Water becomes amrit if you did the patt with full devotion and concentration. Drink the glass water to help you with any health problems. If this doesnt work then feel free to go to any akhara and try to get heal from them. Keep us updated. Vahiguroo always helps his bhagats! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsingha Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I'm gald we have experts such as N30Singh online. Well done....perhaps the rest of us may learn how to control ourselves the next time we are possessed by demons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchids Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Orchid here you should do: Its much more conveinent. You can do this in your home and you dont need go pay to any akhara. Everyone can do it..even dumbest person can do it thats how easy Guru Nanak Dev Sikhi is! - Fill up a glass of water and recite 108 Mool Mantar daie paat(Nanak Hos Bhi Sach Tak)... make sure you hold the glass while doing. After you done, drink the water. Water becomes amrit if you did the patt with full devotion and concentration. Drink the glass water to help you with any health problems. If this doesnt work then feel free to go to any akhara and try to get heal from them. Keep us updated. Vahiguroo always helps his bhagats! what shall i recite? tell me the exact words 2 recite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchids Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 anyways i thought ghosts were in their own world how can they come onto earth realm i thought they cannot touch objects including humans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I'm gald we have experts such as N30Singh online. Well done....perhaps the rest of us may learn how to control ourselves the next time we are possessed by demons. Well Thank You All learned from Nihang Gurmant Singh Ji Chanvaie Crore Budda Dal. ...so real thanks goes to him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 what shall i recite? tell me the exact words 2 recite Here this page orchid: http://www.punjabonline.com/sikhism/japtr_fr.html Make sure you download gurmukhi fonts and install them then print that page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirgun Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 To the dear brother who posted above, Don't go to any door except for Guru Ji's. Guru Ji can free you from ALL your problems, so don't listen to faithless cynics and try any other strange remedy to deal with your problems. Guru Ji can make your life wonderful and without pain. Once again, don't listen to faithless fruits, just recognize that you should only go to Guru Ji's door now. naanak dhar ghar eaek hai avar n dhoojee jaae ||10||11|| O Nanak, there is only the one door to His Home; there is no other place at all. ||10||11|| gur pushh dhaekhiaa naahee dhar hor || I have consulted the Guru, and I have seen that there is no other door than His. naam nidhhaan paaeiaa par ghar jaae n koe ||2|| Obtaining the treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, one does not go knocking at other doors. ||2|| an ko dhar ghar kabehoo n jaanas eaeko dhar sachiaaraa || Whoever finds the door of the One True Lord, does not know any other house or door. (I'm sure you get the point). Try doing sukhmani sahib/jap ji sahib as often as possible, and make sure you do keertan sohila and rakheya dhey shabad before sleeping. Do ardaas that the spirit leaves you alone and moves on. If you have 100% faith in Guru Nanak, he will save you and protect you without a doubt. Don't worry Tu Kahey Doley Praniya - Tudh Rakheyga Sirjanhaar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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