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SSA Sikilove. Thank you Bro.

Welcome brother bhattman, from your words, I can only say you are blessed with His grace. Regarding the importance of simran, Guru Jee beautifully describes it in Sukhmani Sahib , if you read it with attention and try to sip each boond of Amrit in it, you will be amazed about the depth and the anmol value contained in it. His simran, is the key to true spirituality, or better said, is the very key which unlocks all obstructions encountered between us and Him. Right from the begining Fifth Patshahee tells us: ਸਿਮਰਉ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਉ ॥ Simaro Simar Simar Sukh Paavo || Meditate, meditate, meditate in remembrance of Him, and true everlasting happiness. He says that, if we do His simran, we shall find true everlasting happiness. We may ask ourselves , why or how can that be possible? The answer is, that by His simran, we merge in Him, thus we are free from the cycle of births and deaths, as we merge in the Infinite Ocean of everlasting bliss of Satnam. Further on He tells us: ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਗਰਭਿ ਨ ਬਸੈ ॥ Prabh Kai Simaran Garabh N Basai || Remembering God, one does not have to enter into the womb again. ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਦੂਖੁ ਜਮੁ ਨਸੈ ॥ Prabh Kai Simaran Dhookh Jam Nasai || Remembering God, the pain of death is dispelled. ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਕਾਲੁ ਪਰਹਰੈ ॥ Prabh Kai Simaran Kaal Pareharai || Remembering God, death is eliminated. Here He clearly tells us, that by His simran, the chains by which we are strongly tied in the endless wheel of 84, or of the births and deaths, are cut off, thus the soul never ever enters a mother´s womb, nor any other life form. We may ask, what are those chains? Well those chains are all of our karmas whether god or bad, our vikars, the PUNJ CHOR, our past sanskaras ..... which are deeply engraved on our minds. There is no such cleanser which can wipe all that dirt on the mind, except for His simran alone, as seen in the following verse: ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੈ ਸਿਮਰਨਿ ਮਨ ਕੀ ਮਲੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ Prabh Kai Simaran Man Kee Mal Jaae || In the remembrance of God, the filth of the mind is removed. Regarding His simran, the Bani also tells us: Jin Har japeeya, se Har hoeeya In the verse above, Guru Jee is revealing us the technique, the jugtee, by which we ordinary mortals can merge in Him, and become one with Him without any distiction. Isn´t that something great and beyond any description? Well, that is the apaar mahima of His simran, by which, we stones can be ferried across, and become one with Him. I hope, your queries of the importance of engaging in His simran are somehow satisfied; anyway, go through Sukhmani Sahib throughly without any rush, and by His grace, all your queries may come to end. Stay blessed. SSA.

Brother Lucky Jee, your statement above in terms of Oliver Wendell Holmes could be well defined as : " The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions."

Devotees of God Naamdev Ji and the Hindu Priests Naamdev was a true devotee of God. For all of his life, Naamdev had worshipped God and had faith in Him for each and every moment. He did not worship anyone else but the one immortal God. He says, "The performance of countless millions of other devotions is not even equal to one devotion to the Name of God" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1163). The materialistic things would not deter Naamdev’s spiritual path to meet God. He considered iron and gold alike. Once while sewing he wrote, "I perform devotional worship and sing glorious praises of God. Twenty-four hours a day, I meditate on God. I have found a needle of gold (Naam / God's Name), and a silver thread (pure mind). (Through Naam), Naamdev?s mind has been woven with God" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 485). Naamdev cared neither for gold nor for silver, he was in love with God. A result of his true worship he had became a highly spiritual person but he was still completely devoid of pride. Naamdev knew that God does care for the person who recites His name and remember Him all the time. Once, Naamdev Ji went to Avandanagnath Temple situated in Maharashtra, India. The Hindu priests of that temple believed in the caste system. After reaching the temple, Naamdev sat and started meditating on God but the Hindu priests grabbed his arm and drove him out of the temple. The priests said that Naamdev couldn’t visit the temple because he belonged to a low class. Naamdev was deeply hurt. He went to the back of the temple and started worshipping God. In his prayer he said, "Joyfully, I came to Your Temple, O Lord. While Naamdev was worshipping, he was driven out. I am of a low social class, O Lord; Why was I born into a family of fabric dyers? I picked up my blanket and started walking. I sat at the back side of the temple" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1164). Naamdev further prayed, "Please do not forget me; do not forget me, please do not forget me, O Lord. The temple priests consider themselves of high caste, and everyone is furious with me. Calling me low-caste and untouchable, they beat me and drove me out; what should I do now, O Beloved Father Lord? If You give me salvation after I die, no one will know that I attained salvation. These Pandits, these religious scholars, call me low-born; when they say this, they tarnish Your honor as well. You are called kind and compassionate; the power of Your Arm is absolutely unrivalled" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1292). “As Naamdev uttered the glorious praises of the Lord, the temple turned around to face the Lord's humble devotee” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1164). “The Lord turned the temple around to face Naamdev and its back to the priests” (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1292). That temple is still rotated. This is the symbol of the true love of God towards His true devotee.

Hey dalsingh bro, Do you really believe I can be blind to the facts you are mentioning? This kaam vaasna chor has left almost no one free from its deadly effects. Name me one country or one race or creed which is free from this malady? Film industry and sport sector in USA with me too, Colombia, Thailand, India, the muslim countries, the religious class in christianity within the goray, the political, the royal families, the doctors with their patients, the goray and other paedophiles with children of only months... Open any news channel, any newspaper, one only sees sex crimes, apart from other atrocities, but sex crime is just too much... It is just sickening, there is no such corner in this world full of evilness and negativity where this sex crime does not take place. Some time ago, I read how apnay outside the gurdwaras in UK also have committed paedophile acts with our own children while parents are inside. These are just some cases which come on the surface, but how many more are happening every second, every minute... Bloody bastards.

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SSA Lucky Jee, nice to see you. You are 100% right what you have stated above, and nobody denies that what you have expressed is what Kirtan is and has to be in sikhee; but we are not alone in this world, the word kirtan , or kirtana, means ‘telling, narrating, enumerating or describing’ and originates from the Vedic period, where it was first written as anukirtana or anukriti, meaning a ‘re-telling. We as skhs are not alone in this world, there are many more. For example , prayers, or meditation, are common to all to an extent, we can not say to anybody, listen because you do not perform as per our point of views or our panth, your prayers, your meditation, your kirtan, is all rubbish. The so called kirtan which I posted and which a particular member has created so much mess about it due to own personal mental rigidity, is nothing but evilness of that member. Has anyone paid attention to the wordings in it? Isn´t the singer asking god for guidance and singing His praises, and tht too in punjabi language, which is more related to us to understand? Or is it because it is in a filmy tune or whatever tune, it is invoking the devil. I am not saying, nor did I ever mention, that it is o.k to sing like that at Gurdwaras or at any groupal meetings, and that is the real kirtan. It is sung by someone who loves Him, and has sung His praises, he has not used Gurabni in filmy tunes, which would be completely wrong, but he is singing out of his soul to the Lord. We live in this world, and just as we hear so many types of music, so by chance I heard this song, which touched me, because it reminded me of Waheguru , not because of anything, but because His praises were sung, because of that I called it beautiful. Plus, does not the vey Bani say: ਮੇਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਕੀ ਕੋਈ ਬਾਤ ਸੁਨਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਭਾਈ ਸੋ ਮੇਰਾ ਬੀਰ ॥੨॥ Maerae Har Preetham Kee Koee Baath Sunaavai So Bhaaee So Maeraa Beer ||2|| he whosoever tells me the stories of my Beloved Lord, is my Sibling of Destiny, and my friend. So let us ask ourselves, is the guy not singing the praises of Him and calling Him Rab, in our case Waheguru Akal Purukh, of whom we are being reminded of His praises being sung? Then why so much hatred? Is he inducing anyone to worship any other deity, or is he singing the praises of any other god or godess apart from Him? If not, then why to be so mentally rigid and act wickedly? The problem is some have limited themselves as being bamawadee among hindus , thus we read the Bani as parrots, but we fail to understand what it says, we have become so mecahnical, thus we fail in being humans and use our hearts and minds to absorb the teachings of the Bani. When I heard the guy singing, I was overwhelmed, I said to myself, my God Waheguru, you are so great, you are beyond description, your praises are infinite and are very dear to my heart. Keeping only this in mind, I felt like sharing with the sangat here, not knowing that some few people induced by one particular member and the chamcha, would propagate so much of nonsense and hatred, that also, due to personal ego, instead of seeing His praises sung by the singer. Which is all that should matter, as seen in the pangti above of Sree Guru Ram Das Maharaj. Lucky Jee, you know me since a long time, here and on the other forum, and you know that never ever I can do anything which may go agianst Sikhee, rather I want all the sangat, all the world and the universe, to be blessed with the truth, wealth and beauty of Gurbani, which is beyond any parallel. SSA.

SSA Brother dalsingh101 jee, The goray covering the crime of these bastards is totally bad, sorry if I missed mentioning in my post above, not that I am not aware of it, but my post was mainly to bring light to the ill mentality, ill culture, of these bastards, which ends in crime and terrorism against humanity. But then, the very goray also suffer at the hands of these bastards. All nationalities have criminals, but the difference between these and the rest is that, these are a product in industrial quantity, due to their devlish beliefs and retrogating culture. Anyhow thanks for bringing the awareness of these matters, in this your present thread. SSA.

Chamchagiri has no limits. Why are u continuing when your "teacher" said it will not be replied. Beware you are trespassing the wishes of your "teacher " , she may get angry. And about your nonsense of immense Vella, well you are infinite in this aspect. .

Well, what are your tastes I do not care. I write and post what I think is good and feel sharing it, I do not write to please anyone. Ok? I have told you many times, widen your horizons a bit, you are not the center of the world, so that all has to revolve as per your thinking and likes. Accept people as they are, nobody is perfect, and you even less... So stop being so negative. Had you paid attention a bit to the wordings, you would have realized that it is nothing but seeking His help and guidance. In fact inspiring words with deep meaning are more valuable, music as in this case is secondary. So, is that in any way wrong or bad? For your kind information, the word kirtan, or kirtana, means ‘telling, narrating, enumerating or describing’ and originates from the Vedic period, and that is exactly what the singer is doing, communicating with the Almighty. You may not have good vibes towards me, and I understand and accept it, but so do I towards you... I do not like 99.99% of your posts, yet I respect your freedom, and do not wait for a chance to point out. I let you be as you are, for hardly anyone can change anyone. Mooorakh jee, just mature up by accepting things as they are taste wise, thinking wise, and do not be so judgemental. Hope you have understood. Respect and tolerance is the key. Stay blessed. SSA.

Sorry, one is not given the ability to do sinful things, rather we have choice to do things right or wrong. For example a traffic signal on the road is in red color, then too instead of waiting until it changes to green and one moves forward, one will surely meet an acident and get hurt badly. So you see, God has not created anything bad, it is we who make the wrong choices, and as always blame Him. People know that drinking alcohol, smoking or into drugs is bad, yet, they engage in them and harm their health, then, who is to be blamed? Of course, not god. We were sent into the creation to grow and mature, like when a child is sent to school or the university, but we have messed up and ended doing all sort of nonsense, thus fail. School, teachers, life are not bad, they are there for our growth and betterment, but, if we do not pay attention to the TEACHINGS and work accordingly, then naturally we shall fail and remain donkeys. SSA.

Newly discovered ancient Buddha statue destroyed on Muslim cleric’s order in Pakistan One thing is evident from the mentality of the followers of this path, it is that while the world moves forward in almost all fields; these people due to their beilefs are stepping backwards like in the stone age. I do not say all modern things are good, but we have to move forward in education, science and technology. And above all, respect all human beings, otherwise slowly and slowly they are going to isolate themselves from the reality, which is quite sad. The main things in which they are quite back, is education, science, technology, human rights, and even religiously. For all the bad things they do in the name of their Divinity, it is not that he has told them to do, but, by the poison spreaded of a mentally unbalanced person. There is no limit to all the grooming, stealing, drug trafficking, raping, destryoing historical monuments, terrorism, invading, converting, infusing hatred in their community towards other people, etc ... It is a disgrace. They are not aware of that all the evil deeds they do in the name of their Divinity, are not accepted by it, and after leaving this world they will have to pay heavily for all those deeds, for inflicting pain on others.