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Omg!!! That's totally insane!!

Yes I love this shabad!! Very Vairaagmai!! The line MERE MANN TAN VEDAN GUR BIRAUHO LAGAAVEY(my mind and body are afflicted with the pain of separation from GURu) Just makes one to burst into tears. perfect for my tomorrow morning! Thanks for sharing! Gur fateh!

What the scientific approach to the concept of meditation!! Loved the research work!! Just figured the concept very precisely!! Now meditation makes so much sense!! Excellent post!! Thanks for sharing it!

Yes veer Ji, you are exactly right!! We are no ones to love God,Even we can't! It's Guru sahib himself who allows us/bless us to have love in heart.Yes ,it's not under our control.We own do not believe that Are We doing this?? How is this happening?? It's totally out of control.It's like we are just like puppets,and then we say that we are lost somewhere. AAP DHAYA KAR DEV SI GURMUKH AMRIT CHOYE And Guru sahib himself Saves their BELOVED ones and makes the entire mystery understandable. TERA BHANA TU HAI MANAYE JIS NO HOYE DHAYALA But,One thing that bothers is the DOUBT..DOUBT ON OURSELVES.DOUBT ON OUR LOVE.MInD does not believe on such great fortune.It always says NO!! This is not kirpa or so called love/devotion.How can we be sooo fortunate to have his daya.Then doubt arises.And then it starts questioning and worldly matters start attracting.And then bottom line comes,He HIMSELF ARRANGES EVERYTHInG. It's really something unspoken!! Really " JA TU MERE VAL HAI TA KYA MUHCHANDA,TUD SAB KICH MAINU SAUNPYA JA TERA BANDA" Waheguru!! WJKKWJKF!!

To have love for god is right,but then is it called excess when everything else seems to be useless.At this point,mind gets worried.Everything including friends,family,study,classes,career,even own health,own body become out of interest.Mind does not want to talk to anyone.It always keeps lost somewhere.All world matters become no longer point of interest.People start calling introward,insane .So is it right??,If not,then why does this happen walking on the path of spirituality? Are these signs of depression? Is there any need for counselling of mind?? Why this parkh takes this much time? Shouldnt God stop examining his lovers?? So,Is it not right to have excess of love towards almighty?? Or Does It mean that we are living with doubt or we dont love God in reality? Please share your views . WJKKWJKF!!

Yes!! I get it!! It's really good feature. But on old version,I could browse the site in desktop version even from phone.But it's good too .Thank you for info . Gur fateh!!

Many old posts are missing

Well please any one tell me how to use desktop version from phone as I'm not getting it..

I thought the same..lol

Another problem I'm having is that I'm not liking any posts,but many of posts are getting liked by me.??

Yes it is slow..I'm missing old version of forum But some features are really good..

yes new posts are missing.Well New look is really good.Veer Ji would you please tell me how to get the desktop version from phone as I'm not getting it.Thank you..

But If your inner soul has asked you to do so,then go for it.We never know what Guru sahib has planned for us.He himself will help you to achieve the goal.You'll definitely do it!! Good luck!! Guru Sahib meharan karan!! Gur fateh!!

In my view,What I think as considering myself a person of very lowest awastha,is that number doesnt matter.Just talking about Jap Ji sahib Ji.You know what is the depth and meaning in Japji sahib??? Doing more and more paaths in lowest time,is not that worthy for an ordinary man.Gurmukhs could and they did so,coz they had understood the real meaning of japji sahib.They had divine glimpse of each word of Japji sahib in their inner -selves.They have achieved the true meaning,true essence.Talking personally,I used to do this in my childhood to do nitnem in 1 hour.It was due to lack of time ,to go to school.But what we have understood in fast recitation of gurbani?? Have we understood or felt the true meaning,true message yet.You know Jap ji sahib gurbani is just of 39 pauris ,and you can do it in as lowest time as you want to.but The depth,vastness,the reality,incredibility of these 39,pauris is just measureless.If we do a single pauri again gain again in a single day ,then we can't understand the meaning. Why gurmukhs could do or do so??,cause they had achieved the truth They had done paath in their souls.Means they did true darshan of paathh in higher realms.They had seen each word and each line of jap ji sahib in their souls.They know the divine saroop of jap ji sahib.That's why time limit doesnt matter for them.Like it's said,one who reaches sachkhand,then he can go there anytime and can come back any time.Now the realms at intervals do not matter for them .It's like making of bridge over lower realms to do straight journey any time.same in this case. They have achieved the true essence.Now they dont need to discuss the meanings again and again in their minds.It's some thing unspoken.but we ordinary men can do so,but not in that sense.To get the true meaning and to do the pathh by soul is the true purpose.Like Take e.g. of tuk Na oh maareh naa thaage jaye Jin kai raam vasey mann maye These are the simple lines. But the vastness cant be described. Okay I've read the line in just 3 seconds.But that doesnt matter.If I want to UNDERSTAND, FEEL, EXPERIENCE, in just that 3 seconds then,its not worthy. When I'll achieve it,Then experiencing the meaning, a WAH will come out ,not just a wah that will be word of unspoken pleasure of soul. SO ,if we do a single pauri in whole day,in order to read the experience, the depth and start talking to divine while doing so,then its much worthy than reciting so many times the whole pathh without no real experiences. Gurmukhs did so,cause they had made a bridge.But we have not yet.so,what I'm doing these days(may be wrong),I get katha of bhai Maskeen ji of japji sahib in my lapi.katha of each pauri is app 40 min. So doing a each pauri each day,then talking to divine again again over these particular words is just a poor attempt but still not that worthy .. So In my suggestion,just close your eyes and start doing Jap ji sahib with waheguru Ji.Start reciting each word ,each letter with an aim of getting its true meaning ,talk to guru ji.Like your doing a conversation between ur soul and almighty. Forget about time limits.Forget about everything else! Forget about urself.Just your soul and waheguru ji in terms of words.Words of jap ji sahib.Then see whether you do 108 paaths in one day or just a One Paath in 108 days. If you have achieved the truth ,then go for you attempt. But the anand ,pleasure and real experience we get in discussing the paathh with supreme is much much fruitful than doing infinite prayers. Sanak Sanat ant nhi paya Bed parraeh parr brahmey janam gwaya (Sanak and Sanat ,sons of brahma coulnt find the lords limits Brahma wasted his life away continually reading the vedas)

Exactly!!! Totally agree Veer ji!!! I'm just little disheartened at some points,which are doubts for me.Yes,only with grace of sache patsah, it happens itself.and Guru sahib will make a way out and will make everything clear. Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhii Nirankkar!!!

Oh sorry!! Brahmgyani is even sought by the lord shiva Brahmgyani is the Lord/Nirankaar himself..

I was just trying to have a little nap.And the whole discussion was coming again and again in my mind.I had prayed to sache patsah to clear my doubts.We were biasing again again over stature of a brahmgyani.Whether he is a human/greater than SGGSJ/or a high spiritual being.When I was just talking to myself,these lines of Gurbani just rang in my ears: BRAHMGYANI KO KHOJAEY MAHESHAR, NANAK BRAHMGYANI AAP PARMESHAR|| I think it answers the question of title.. Dhan GURU Ramdass patsah!!! Wah!!

Beautiful veer ji!!! Same I think so!! We are ignoring Gurbani and main /true purpose of our life. Dhan Guru Ramdass Patsah!! Aap hi mehar karn... WJKKWJKF!!

But It's still a doubt for me.Sorry it's off topic.But I dont agree with killing of animals by ordinary men.Gurbani does not allow us to do so.

Who are baba Needhan singh?? I dont know about him.But he should stop this...my mind is notttt readyyy to accept it..

That's what Normal Nihangs are doing wrong.Their brahmgyani MUST stop the ordinary men.You know this a little thing is disturbing the definition of sikhism...To kill animals is totally against principles of sikhism/spirituality.

I'm not much aware of present /past sants or brahgyanis.So can't question or answer the fact.I'm praying Guru sahib to give me the answer.So please dont ask anything about Raagmaal sahib.I dont want to conduct any mistake.

Satguru Jee were Satguru jee.He did so to free the souls from their terrible chaurasii. We cannot compare ourselves with Guru Sahib.Dhan were the animals,souls killed in hands of guru sahib.But whyyyyy humans do so??? Why??? Can we provide salvation to any animal,after killing?? Tell me??

That's what I'm saying.It was at that time according to situation of time.But now situations are muCh much better.Tell me what is the purpose now???

Would you please elaborate more about this stage.. & okay,but what if one gets true Naam from sachepatsah himself.You know in entire SGGSJ,gurbani explains the greatness of true naam.To get true naam from true guru is the achievement of brahmgyan.That true Naam will def reach you to Sachkhand(beyond Brahm),so surely Brahgyan gets attained by the soul.