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@HisServant could you tell us more about the technique of just observing yourself?

If you've got the same answer 7 times then just give maharaj time. You also need to work on yourself, I think I also heard from Sant Mohinder Singh Jarg that you can't put water in a kucha pot. Even if the dat is ready the bhanda (you) needs to be strong enough to receive it.

Getting the same answer 7 times - I see this as being told that you have been given what you want but you need to prepare yourself to receive it.

These lectures recived via a medium in the 60s are amazing. Although written from a (very non-mainstream) christian perspective they contain a lot of knowledge about parlok.

https://pathwork.org/lecture-categories/pathwork-lectures-1996-ed/

which people

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

If you've got more info on this, please do share. Otherwise anyone can claim anything brother. 

open that thread to see the lineage

Sant Maharaj Singh, Bhai Daya Singh Samparda.

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The effect of paat on water is sukham, you cannot see it in the structure. When Emoto's study was reviewed it could not be confirmed, also those pictures show frozen water, not water.

Do you want to share with us?

http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/15760-out-of-body-experiences/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-141096

Thanks for the reply De Niro.

Last night I read this in Bh Sew Singh Tarmala's book, 'Forgetting the way of love'. It implies that Anhad Bani and Naad are not the same thing. Is the ringing sound Anhad Bani? What are the divine words he mentions in point 4?

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First we have
to leave thoughts (Maya), then we must get to Sunn, then we reach
Naam or Anhad Bani, and finally we reach Naad (word of God).
Naad helps us cross the bhavsagar and takes us to God. It means
that to have union with God, we have to cross many stages.

Again, to understand these stages:

1) Swaas Graas simran by chanting Gurmantra to stop the
thoughts.
2) Enter the Sunn (going to sleep to rest)
3) Stay awake by dhyaan when free of thoughts.
4) The divine words appear in Sunn.
5) Anhad Bani (the divine music) appears.
6) The mind enters the Sunn (third Sunn).
7) Naad (word of God) appears which will help us cross the
Bhavsagar (the dangerous ocean).
The mind unites with God in Sehaj Ghar.

My punjabi isn't great. Does he say that bandgi and simran is not the same thing and that bandgi starts only once you're in sunn and have prem for shabad? 

Why does  he say not to focus on the forehead or point in the body?

Thanks, much appreciated.

Thanks Neo but the two following ones are missing from there as well:

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Here is the 6th audio segment of discussion with baba ji:

 

Questions

 

 

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- is there any difference between advait vedant and gurmat? some people say advait vedant is against prema bhagti towards vahiguroo because its upasana of one atma. Is Aham Bhramasami maha vak according to gurmat? any gurbani reference support this school of thought?

 

- If other dharamis, person can get to bedah mukht avastha or get to sachkhand, what was point of sri guru nanak dev ji bringing gursikhi and forming khalsa panth tisra panth?

 

- Various avtars existed before in pichale yugs ie- vasudev, ram chandar ji, krishan maharaj, sri guru nanak dev ji was pargat in kalyug. If gurbani accepts all the previous avtars and their panth being valid, therefore any premi who follows their mat fully can get mukhti doesnt this make sikhi snatan dharam like shaivism instead of tisra panth? what is it mean when sri guru gobind singh ji himself said in bachitar natak. Sri Akaal Purkh sent me to this world to create the panth?

 

- Gurbani existed before Guru Nanak, that means Gurmukhs existed before Guru Nanak, they are not his creation. Does that mean Sikhi gurmat marg is another samparda like Shaivism? and continuation of Sanathan Dharama (Eternal law from beginning)?

 

- Usually in sakhiya there is a sakhi of baba sri chand maharaj/Lakhmi Chand did not listen to sri guru nanak dev ji patsah hakums? and still got bhramgyan, does that mean bhramgyan is attainable outside sri guru nanak dev ji sikhi marg?

 

- When this jev get darshan of sargun guru maharaj saroop, after the darshan does that mean they get bedah mukht avastha?

 

- - can sikhs listen to sufi qwali which are sung in memory of allah or murshids?

 

- - The benefit (or not) of Akhand Paath culture - where 99% of those who pay for them to be done, turn up to to the start and the bhog, and think they will in someway be blessed. Does baba Ji feel that Sehaj Paath or Sudhaaran Paath is more beneifical to the parvaar and sangat as they can actually sit down and listen to it all?

 

- Can we do sargun dhiyan of sri guru nanak dev ji saroop? some people call this as baut pooja?

 

 

Here are the answers:

 

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http://www.gurmarag.net/SikhAwareness/Audio/discussion with sant jagjit singh ji part 6.mp3

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Here is the last part of discussions with sant jagjit singh ji..

 

questions:

 

 

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- some people think when this jev get bedah mukht avastha or merge with

vahiguroo even then atma of this jev have some kind of paichaan?

 

- in gurbani there are bachans of how this sansar is mithiya but also

there are bachans of bhram eveywhere in this sansar.

 

- many sant bhramgyanis in past realse their body via smadhi, some

extreme pain or agony...can we distinguish them saying one had parlabdh

karam and another didnt had pralabdh karam?

 

-how does four khands related to avastha of this jev?

 

- concept of dasvand?

 

- Deep vichaar on haumai, it's relationship with mun (inc panj chor)

and atma, methods to reduce it etc...

 

 

- To do vichaar on Raagmala.

 

- In japji sahib there is bachan of maharaj that there are countless

khaniya but sri dasam granth sahib talks about four types of khaaniya?

 

- vichar on ik ongkar?

 

Here are the answers:

 

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http://www.gurmarag.net/SikhAwareness/Audi...last%20part.mp3

 

Message to Sikh youths

 

http://www.gurmarag.net/SikhAwareness/Audi...kh%20youths.mp3

Links are all broken, can they be uploaded somewhere else? The youtube links  from pt2 to part3 seem to skip the 6th and 7th recordings as per the thread. @sarabatam if you have the originals can  you put them on soundcloud or something?

This was quite interesting despite the bad translations

On 6/11/2019 at 12:05 PM, Guest Jara said:

Hi everyone Not sure if anyone will read this but I came across this site because I was writing to someone about the sound current and so google brought me here, the thing is I have been meditating on the sound and light since 1984 and have had some amazing things happen so just want to check out whether it's ok to share as don't follow any particular belief system. My inner drive to know the truth of my being was my system. The sound was revealed to me, I know this contradicts some of what I have read here but this was my experience, as I sat there something opened and I could hear the sound, also a speck of light grew in size and I saw the thousand petalled lotus becom larger and then completely enveloped me, it was as though I had gone through it.  Not sure if this is appropriate for this site so I will see what happens. I will write more if this gets posted

Feel free to share and register with the forum.

Everyone's path is different, some of us have to work to get it, while some have it revealed to them due to their naturally elevated consciousness carried over from work they put in in a past life. 

Read these two threads

My point is that Sikhi has no element of proselytism. It may be robust to external attack but we have no missionary element to convince others to convert or to impose ourselves on others. People who choose to join the path do so out of their personal attraction to it rather than fear or pressure to conform.

The two religions which have spread have done so due to their intolerance and bigotry. The reason Eastern philosophies and most indigenous/animist religions did not spread is because of their tolerance towards other people.

Now that people are generally better informed we're seeing a rejection of enforced religion (albeit throwing out the baby with the bath water in some ways) and now that Christian countries/societies do not enforce punishments of blasphemy or apostasy we're seeing a rise in Western Buddhists, Wiccans, shamans, animists and even Sikhs.

which book is this?

https://youtu.be/90FFkb85sek

Read the pinned threads here

http://www.sikhawareness.com/forum/44-meditation-simran-bhakti-jap/

The ridiculous delusion that life is always better in the west