GurjantGnostic

Thank you for summarizing. I'm too ignorant to benefit from the video. I'm still watching it... Just not understanding too much.

Batlles in Dasam Granth start off in 10 directions mainly, then decrease to 4 direction battles, more often.

It didn't bother me, so I just kept doing Simran, just with company is how it felt. I felt supported, or more like they had been attracted by the Simran, and came to listen.

Ah. Here's some. This isn't the whole or exact Katha. Maybe later or in part 2 he finishes. The beginning of this does speak to it though.

Hah. That's something a Sensei would do. Love it Hanji.

While that metaphor may be true, and often is used that way, the effect this had on the Sangat initially, makes it clear people saw, or thought they saw, heads rolling.

I think so Hanji, but only after committing to eat it in the rotten form. So up until the point of acceptance it was flesh.

The fact a lot of these battles happened in 10 directions might...change interpretations.

Has anyone had the experience of "people" coming and standing behind you when you do Simran? If so, how did it strike you? Who did you feel it was?

I heard in Katha that essentially identical parts of Gurbani always have minor differences to distinguish them, so that if you read it, you can find the exact occurence in Gurbani and not be confused which, and when reciting Gurbani it doesn't trick you into losing your place and skipping to another Ang out of habit. I'm not sure if that's relevant Hanji.

Picture proof Singhs aren't afraid of ghosts, ghosts are afraid of Singhs. That gaze reminds me of this photo of Bhai Avtar Singh Brahma Shaheed.

Here's some more Lester Levenson. I do not promote this as Gurmat, higher than Gurmat, or a replacement for Gurbani. It is however the single best articulated information about the Paath from a western physicists direct experience, that when deconstructed is basically american zazen or american advaita with respect to God. The experience of releasing through meditation, and accepting Hukam through meditation, can really help people who are new to Naam that haven't had the experience of feeling Rog or Haumai being taken by Vaheguru. While Lester provided some of the absolute best information to lead me to Gursikhi his method falls short of Gursikhi. There is a reason I have set it largely aside to persue Gurmat, but Lester got as high as you can without Sikhi. After reaching that state he was sent back to share information. So we can see his Seva has truly started. Cross applies to thread about Mukte and Lokhs. Lester can tell you about all Lokhs but one. Note: These are Lester's talks. His actual release methods are not included. The mechanics of the meditation are elsewhere. But there is a lot on the subject of Truth that anyone could enjoy here.

Amen bro.

Running late after reading this was a lot easier saying Raj Karega on the two foot falls and breathing in Khalsa.

Right. I think that's where some wires keep getting crossed.

I do agree that some form of priority should be given to the Paanth in general. I also agree that anyone should be helped regardless of personal interest. Daan, and Dasvand are both asked of us and both children of Daya?

Shukria Hanji

Shukria Hanji. That experience. Yes. That rings totally true to me. I heard that well after being on that road so I recognized it coming in the back.

I just had this happen to me at work. What they describe. I have Kaam largely on lockdown. Especially at work. I use work as paid Bhagti and Aikido time which makes accomplishing the work easy as a byproduct. And they station this young woman with me out of nowhere and expect me to train her, line going full blast production speed but okay. And she's awesome and came onto me...extremely hard. Which was surprising, unexpected and unwarranted really. And I think she did this because I had been fortinate enough to Naam Jaap, and Bhagti up such a work flow that it's magnetic and my energy body was just vibrant, and I was releasing huge pieces of Paap and Rog, and my mind was travelling all these places with Sangat, and I was being washed with these experieneces from Khalsa Family.. AND then suddenly.. I wasn't right. Because I have a 26 year old american indian...Mohini ..hand crafted.....silver bullet...not only rocking her job but trying to rock me too. "Oh I'm into acrobatic combat bow shooting and have immense interest in spirituality"...silver bullet. So...I lead with all my baggage then told her all about Sikhi and that solved that. Lol. Even then, not at first. Among a variety of things I told her to disuade her without hurting her feelings was that there is an extremely special right or covenant that is performed before we engage with anyone in a manner like that and she said "I'm down". ...I'm not sure she knows she's getting ready for Amrit or Anand Karaj lol. But whatever. So hopefully she wants to talk about Sikhi or Aiki, or rocking production, and things are chill. Was nice in a way. Feel like a person for a second. Lol. Not as nice as that Bhagti wave I was riding though before I got distracted and had to ask Guru Nanak Dev Ji to protect my honor. With my phone number in my pocket. Feeling like a wretch. Really looking forward to building up that Bhagti wave next work week. Better here rambling on the forum, thinking about Sikhi than out on a date though. Now Anand Karaj? That's where it's at. And burning off that Kaam into something better. There is a crazy energy there relating to Sanjog I keep getting closer to at the tops of that, and the Kaam turns into something way more powerful and vibrant when you don't let it trip you into a faceplant.

Does Hawan fight anxiety? Maybe. Does it matter when Naam is Panacea and we have the Ever Living Guru in Shabad and Nehkalanhk forms?

Tttldr? You ever get spared a mishap and you know it was Vaheguru Akal Purakh? So you thank Him? Even supposed atheists do this when you truly scare them and they stop acting all angry at God. He just answered your prayer in advance. Doesn't hear our prayers? Jeez. This was more about maintaining a singular focus on Sat Naam to defeat Hau Me under influence of Kalyug to put it in our terms. Throw in some Dharam Rai, Jamdoots, Dharmi V Adharmi.

If there is something we need intercession with it's healing the Rog of Hau Me not our prayers. It's not praying that's tricky its going from Manmukh to Gurmukh, that's beyond tricky. It's impossibe without Satguru. I'll watch the vid now. Alright. So I'm barely into this and I can tell you one thing. Satanists and satanists 2.0 comarket. This video is designed to drive you into the direct practice of satanism or the indirect practice, known as christianity. I'll finish it still. Half of this is the agenda of the originator the other half is suppositions of narrator. Further in now. It's a lie based on some truth. This "saved dark worker" has taken anecdodtaly, and is missing information he would have if he is who he says he is. These descriptions relate more to personal growth than prayer. Yeah..Maya distracts you from Bhagti. When you're distracted you don't notice, when you get High and stop..yeah it feels like a fall. Yes there are crests and setbacks. Yes when you start vibing Kalyug will throw a stick in your spokes if you allow it. So you pick up your bike and start peddling again. Still. Not prayers reaching Akal or not. This is really only what Gurbani tells us about Bhagti or Simran. Jaap Naam? Panj chor thwarted. Stop? Ouch. Make it continual? Yes. More and more and more on Panj Chor. Spiritual warfare is real. Yes you can do it as a Christian. More christians should do this. Christians would probably benefit from listening to the better parts of this but it's elementary in Gursikhi. Gurbani tells us how to do Ardas which is more like what people call prayers. Regardless of some gnosis being in this narrative the originator is a liar. Only every christian gets an angel? Convenient. Made up an metaphorical references to the angel and their armor. When you call Shaheed Singhs they come lacking nothing. Big tell. They only talked about this light force repelling the darkness coming from christians. He didn't tell you about the time a homeless women almost snatched him out the air on her onesies and looked him right in the face? Collection plate doesn't fill itself. Better bullshit than a lot of christianity I've heard. It is indeed made up garbage however. Originator has combined the confluent business of occultism and christianity. He's combined elements from actual dark workers and tribal traditions and lore of his people and area into a new business model for himself to capture the collection dollars and social influence over people. Keep your mind on Gurbani. All this and more is in the True form there. This is Manmat. Creative though. Dudes an entrepreneur. Probably will produce a better christian than most people in his business. I think OP got excited to hear a westerner talk Bhagti, Simran, Panj Chor, Kalyug for the first time in their own quasi christian terms. So it had the ring of truth. Just take the open the hole permanently pillar metaphor thing and do your Simran and realize yes you are under attack. And and I would bet just about anything there is a sleezy sex cult combining christianity and occultism all over this dude. And a whole lot of rolexs.

I was raised around all sorts of christianity. And it played a big role in the celtic history in recent times. I was fortunate enough to be raised in an irish catholic bubble before it burst that was a real link into the past and a certain type of catholicism. My mother fused her understanding of high energy physics and mathematics with spirituality and pointed to Sikhs as being the best example, and had great insight into what it meant to be a real Christian. I was taught about all religions to some degree. I later transitioned into Gnosticism and studied many things broadly and the best sources of Gnosis deeply. In the world of christianity I would be a minority but I've been around every form of it and attended some of their schools. Christianity, overall, is largely, and has long been, infiltrated, corrupted and ...unempowered. Individual christians, many times naive to this, are quite lovely people even in the weirder sects. There are some profoundly powerful real christians out there however in small numbers. Christ is real, but almost no christian understands his message or the workings of metaphysics or meditation enough to understand. Almost entirely, christianity is a cult of idol worship. It is my belief and experience, that Christ supports anyone proporting to follow him to become a Sikh if they are sincere. As a Sant who's name escapes me indicated. I experienced this myself on my journey from fine christian to Wretched Gursikh. It's like going from big fish in the small pond into the ocean. When Halemi Raj occurs this relationship will be more clear. I know that is a long answer to a short question but christianity is complex and even though I was immersed in it, I took the gems and ran, it's uhh...terrifying actually when you peel back the veil even a bit. I had a really neat experience the other day. I was doing Naam Jaap and got close to a Christian, which I didn't realize at first. And I was really feeling good. I started saying Dan Dan Guru Nanak Dev Ji under my breath and when I did this young man got elated. He said Whew...something is here! and started sweating and dancing while he finished his work up and immediately started telling me he returned to his practices recently. I hadn't said anything to him. I had a very vivid dream one time where my deceased grandfather and I were eating in a restaurant and there was a Gursikh family next to us eating happily. And after I spoke with my grandfather a while who only smiled and nodded while I spoke, the Sikh family spoke to us and they asked him if he would condone my being given to them and he nodded. I've also had an experience where I used two forms of Naam from paleo hebrew in the middle of Vaheguru Naam Jaap and it uhh..seemed to bring Christ's pressence to support my Naam Jaap who themself was...doing Naam Jaap. Sat Naam. The natural progression is for people to move from christianity to Sikhi. Not the other way around and not to conFUSE them. There is a gentleman who has YouTube videos. A Sikh who studied with jesuits I think it was? He is inspired about a relationship between the two, and produces a lot of content. He is right about a relationship, but from my point of view he has all the details wrong. Christ was not Guru Nanak Dev Ji as he says. He was more like a beloved vangaurd and his works were not protected because they were not intended to be. Rather than take the warning, the enemies of life and enlightenment took over his subsequent faith, name and image, and coopted it into their existing Adharmi movement. Which is fine. Gursikhi still en route. Halemi Raj innevitable.

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