GurjantGnostic

Thank you sister. Please just copy that and post it in every thread.

Can Ninjas walk on water to end you? With the help of boat shoes they sure can.

That would be a bold claim. You might not see many Ninja "masters" but that's the point. Lol. I mean, their clans don't hold off entire armies anymore, but there is legitimate training being done surely. Their homes can still be seen in Iga Ueno and they're like works of art. Like living in a vegas magic trick. You'd think a wooden house on stilts wouldn't be able to hide say...a second story...but they do...

Hah. Well double responded. Did that twice recently thinking I hadn't.

Man. We go way back bro. There I was blind, and you were following me around. I had no idea. Point is we all each others boys. Our Akanhars are just touching, throwing off sparks. We need a new years.

I did. I'll add it to what I'm sifting for to validate. But yes. "Good vikings" go to valhalla if you catch my drift. The Buddhist goes to Samadhi or Nirvanna. The christians all go to hell. Jokes. That's their narrative. I mean heaven. We aren't shooting for these places. Heaven is the same as hell for us. We are still seperate there just in a "heavenly" state. Which is a lovely place to rest. But we're trying to go all the way Home and Wake up. That Loc and that State are unique.

Well. Having not been here that long. At least visibly, or in depth, you're right Veer Ji. Maybe we need to sue each other for peace. Give each other a bit of extra respect. Straighten the Pagh a bit. I'm sure it's not a one way thing.

In passing Veer Ji, but there are a variety of Mukte, and different Loks, the One we are going for is Nirmal.

There are different Mukte, but One is reserved.

Dueling, competitive fighting, firearms and becoming occupied have eroded all the practices that used to deal with that. I've been reworking ideas about that based on Panj Singhs but I've not spent as much time studying tactics for infantry at that scale. I do understand some. I am able to scale Aikido up and out indefinitely but it's a process. The scale we will see is probably more like tactics used in Vietnam and Afghanistan, asymmetrical, irregular. Really our numbers and resources are disadvantaged enough we have to be head hunters, avoiding the majoity of forces and taking the fight to the truly responsible. Much of the rest is more like just policing the hoards surrounding everyone. Which ironically is what the Ninja and Yakuza did for Japan with the Yamabushi.

To my knowledge not much exists on that scale. There are historical reinactors, that study on that scale. It is in books. Some sword, spear, and halberd Ryu still train for multiple weapons, or melee environments. Really you'd probably find that at a more special forces scale in the Ninja Ryu like Iga or Koga and the Yakuza Gumis. Mm. Almost forgot Yamabushi. They are pretty gupt though.

I am not one of his Chela so I don't know. Although anyone could learn things from watching him. I have, and I almost never steal moves outside of what I have already been immersed in, But I believe he continues to travel circuits to train them. I think it's politics, and affiliations and the way he expresses certain things that have him alienated from Paanth to whatever degree. I'm not weighing in on any side of that, but it's not for no reason. I do however respect him, have love for him as my brother and I hope he keeps the interest of the Paanth truly at heart as he rubs elbows, and I hope he continues doing much of what he is doing. He does worry some people. It's like the Niddar Singh Nihang disclaimer. I don't think he'd be offended. I don't envy him. It's taken a lot to do what he's done, whether we fully approve of him or his work. There is a viral video of him doing a demo of sorts with Salotar with a Nihang and while both men were very, very well trained, I must say, without offense to Nihang Hanji, that Niddar did indeed demonstrate the better understanding in that exchange, on a fundamental level, that he eventually had to make clear to the other Singh through grappling.

100. And just as when our girls are too ashamed to get help, because people are too judgemental to give help, our boys suffer from an additional weight of homosexual shame, that actually has nothing to with them, and demasculinazation or feeling so anyway.

I think so Bhai Ji. Out of likes from spamming them lol. Like.

Chardikala

The, do nothing, it's Karam mindset, there is no victim, just an Atma bringing Karam onto themself is usually dispelled when you do something horrible to the person saying that and ask themself how they manifested that whoopin. Now accepting Hukam, Karam, Kirpa as a Sikh to achieve Anand and more? Well that's it own thing entirely.

I think everyone is making great points. This issue becomes convoluted and unfair to everyone involved because of very real, current, threats on the Paanth and on our Bibis. This should come as no surprise to the op. Her people have customs regarding to speaking with women without their husband or a brother. We all want to see everyone safe. We also want her question answered, which it has been. In fact the thread took tangent when her husband asked she contact a bibi directly instead of learning from this Sangat. We must have great concern for the wellbeing of others. We provide Degh, Tegh, Fateh to all. We don't accept their plight as their Karam. We accept our own personal plight as Karam. That is the only Karam we have account in this Yug. If you insult me, it's my Karam how I seem to respond that. If you do something to an innocent in front of me it's my Karam to fascilitate a semiconsensual nap. We don't take photos of dying babies for posterity. We pick them up to our breasts.

Hopefully he drinks that milk and sits down. The train is about to move and we all need to sit, face forward, and see what the conductor has to say.

Amen bro. That is neither Sant nor Sipahi.

As a Paanth we need to increase our training in Shastar Vidya. While not complete or exclusive the list I would most like to see gain traction are in order. 1. An emergent Sant Gursikh to reveal the actual full system of Shastar Vidya. Timeless. And currently Gupt. I can not reveal this myself as I am not worthy to possess it, but I would recognize it. I could validate it actually. 2. Dal Panths convene and unite to recreate a cohesive system, military effective, spiritually cohesive with Gurmat, and health inspiring into old age. There are Dharmic structures from Aikido I would love to share with them for said process but they are not asking me to do this or doing this themselves soo..moot point. But I feel I could indeed aid in that process. I put the following together on the same tier and invite them to be equals and respect each other and propogate noncompetitively in the Paanth. Most controversial. Totally legitimate at least in terms of applicability to Dharam Yudh. Shastar Vidya as taught by Nidar Singh Nihang. His influence and that of his students will continue to feed into the Vidya of the Paanth. Students of Nidar Singh who have trained with, but broken away from, that teach Shastar Vidya but from a more securely Paanthic perspective based on Gurmat as most Samparada see it. Gutka. Goes through a deep revision and calibration to be more martial and less demo. I seem to be much more optimistic about this than any Sikhs I talk to about it lol. There's more to Gatka than people give it credit. But yes. It would need a reformat for Dharam Yudh or even self defense just a bit. We have a tool in Aikido called Riai. Run it through that it comes out the other side totally martial and healthy again. I'd love to introduce a very Puran, very rare, very valuable, Original form of Aikido into the Sikh Paanth. That I can guarantee you is fully cohesive. Armed unarmed. Multiple attackers into asymmetrical and irregular warfare. Works for men, women and children alike. Is entirely spiritually cohesive with Gurmat and actually physically demonstrates it in its form, and is a health practice with oral teachings going back into Treta Yugh. Better than Tai Chi or yoga for the elders even. This Aikido exists in only a few places and none of it is being operated at full potential for four reasons. It's not being done with Naam as it was demonstrated. It's not rising up to it's proper framework as a Degh, Tegh, Fateh based organization as it was designed and demonstated. It is shared more punblically than Dharam and Shastar Vidya was once shared so you have to edit it in most situations because of Karam. It's monetized. So as far as I can see. Real Aikido. The full thing. All the secrets and shadows and gems can only be taught hypothetically within the Sikh Paanth, or hypothetically within an organization litetally based and built on Gurmat for the purpose I would have to start. There are gupt pockets of the Highly Spiritual Nihon Jin where this exists secretly. You will not find this in full form publically in Japan. There are only a few Dojos that even teach most of it there. I plan to offer this first to a Nihang Bunga where I live and go from there. I have high hopes for a few of the Aikido Dojos, but largely what you see is not Aikido truly and so the Dharam of Aikido is under threat of extinction. I would like to plant a remaining rare species of it in the Sikh Paanth to preserve it in it's most Sat form, and by doing so let it protect the Paanth. You will continue to see Aikido Dojos. It's always a healthy thing to do really but Aikido is highly criticized, often rightly, because the lineages and available Dojos are largely watered down, incomplete, and unauthentic. A lot of it is dead wood soon to be lost, or just not really the actual product. There are specific pieces sort of housed in this or that Kai or Khan or Ryu but the full thing? That's only happening in secret right now. There are a lot of intended purposes Aikido will continue to serve that a lot of people don't realize, and seeds have been planted for some other tasks, but I would love to show the Sikh Paanth the fully unedited version. It'll blow your mind. You'll recognize the maker immediately. The only people Khalsa enough to have the unedited version shared with them from the beginning with no negative Karam impact...is the Khalsa. I really don't know who else I could show it to that's worthy of handling it.

The Guru is so perfect. Everything is in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth. Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji. The multifaceted, complete, gem like structure of what they build for us is perfect. Their gifts always serve all purposes, have all the information you need, it all relates to itself cohesivley in every direction. These things are Timeless. Changless. You can go to Sach Akhand and run your hands over their Puran Architecture. In the whole world having looked everywhere there are only two things like it. In a specific order. Gursikhi. The Truth on the Truth. Complete. Puran. And the original and almost lost or unkown Takemusu Aikido as a fruit of Sat Dharam, plucked by Akal Purakh, given to O' Sensei and placed in the Iwama Jinja under the protection of Saito. It too stands alone but you have to know what it is and while totally true it is a segment only of Sat Dharam which has been gifted for very multifaceted but specific purposes.

You can find it all in the art of Purtan Gursikhs and other Dharams when you know how to look too. Pay really close attention to battle scenes with Devte. Also remember Guru Gobind Singh Ji paints the most beautiful images with Dasam Bani, regarding battles and ages that occur in 10 and 4 directions.

A lot of it survives in Celtic oral tradition as well. Who are allies are, and what our spiritual purpose in this place is, has survived, and it matches everything else I've encountered.

Simplest answer. Dasam Granth. Most key piece.