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On 7/24/2021 at 2:18 AM, paapiman said:
The below device, in combination with Simran/Kirtan (of Gurbani Shabads/Tuks related to Stress elimination), might help a person in managing his/her stress levels in these tough times.
https://neuvanalife.com/products/xen
Bhul chuk maaf
Be interesting to see what freq that sends to the nerve and if it resonates when singing Kirtan already.
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5 hours ago, paapiman said:
@Arsh1469 @Trimandeep Singh @dalsingh101
The below verses are from Sri Sarabloh Gurbani.
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ਪਾਵਕ ਬਾਚ ।।
The Speech of Fire
ਮੇਰੀ ਅਗਨਿਤਾ ਭਈ ਸੁ ਸਫਲ ।। ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਧਰਨੀਧਰ ਬਿਲਮ ।। ਤ੍ਵ ਸੱਤਾ ਕਰ ਜਠਰ ਨਿਵਾਸਤਿ ।। ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਕੇ ਉਦਰ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਤਿ ।।੧।।
"Oh Foundation of the Earth , My nature of Fire is only successful through your Grace! Through your power I reside in the stomachs of people, in the stomachs of all beings I flame.
ਕਾਸਟ ਮਾਂਝ ਹਉਂ ਸਦਾ ਬਸਾਮੀ ।। ਜਠਰਾਨਲ ਬੜਵਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਗ੍ਰਾਮੀ ।। ਸਰਬ ਤੇਜ ਮਮ ਰੂਪ ਜਨੇਸ੍ਵਰ ।। ਭਖ ਭਸਮ ਹਉਂ ਕਰਤੁ ਮਹੇਸ੍ਵਰ ।।੨।।
Within all wood I reside, within all stomachs, and within the submarine volcanos. Oh Master of the servants, I am the form of all illumination, I burn all the food [for digestion] Oh Great Master !"
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[1] - https://www.manglacharan.com/post/the-speech-of-fire-sri-sarbloh-guru-granth-sahib
Bhul chuk maaf
Underwater volcanoes miss most people's mention. The advanced scientific mindset present in Gurbani is undeniable.
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On 7/22/2021 at 11:14 PM, paapiman said:
Thank you Veerji. I listened and I was reading along for a bit, but I got hit with such bliss, that I just drifted into the deepest sleep. I'll have to watch a few times.
I was sitting on the floor watching then boom I was laying in bliss then gone.
I only passed out maybe two hours but I feel like I slept a whole night.
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5 hours ago, seattlesingh said:Personal tips:
- Have proper sleep, good quality sleep and will power have a strong correlation in my personal research
- Have proper diet (don't get caught being "hangry")
- Daily exercise (start with 5 pushups every hour or something, build up your strength)
- You may have Pitta imbalance so try to eat a Pitta pacifying diet especially in the summer time aka Pitta season
- Also the mindset by which you consume your food affects is conduciveness to your body, begin eating after 1 minute or two of Jaap, remember guru sahiban, and shaheed singhs to induce sato gun within the food and reduce its natural tamasic quality or the tamasic qualities it picked up when it was being prepared
Shukria Hanji. I had never heard of Pitta before.
Also it is very important to keep your bowels clean. "Make sure you bust several grumpies a day lest you act like a grumpie yourself", so says Dave.
In the military, for ground forces, the number one cause of soldiers becoming too ill to fight is they neglect poopin out of fear, and their body becomes toxic then ill.
My cousin who was a Navy Corpsman said when he was nested with ground troops his job as a medic ultimately was play mom, carry the guys extra gear to give them a break, and make them poop regularly. He said the rest was iv and salt water balance and the odd patch up job before evac.
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On 4/5/2021 at 5:23 AM, Samarbir Singh said:
WJKK WJKF
So I’ve read in Bhai Nand Lal Ji’s rehit maryada and it said that if you don’t take cold shower and eat before nitnem it is bad (something along those lines). But see I take 2 showers in day, the first one is Amrit Vela and I switched from taking hot showers to cold showers in Amrit Vela (it’s been a few days). But in the afternoon I also take another shower because I usually have been playing sports and just have been doing things throughout the day. I’ve also been taking cold showers in the afternoon (recently), but I feel like in the afternoon I should take a hot shower to clean the dirt and oil in my pores, and then do a blast cold water for a few minutes. Does this work with the rehit maryada or no?
Bhul Chuk Maaf
You can genourously apply coconut oil to better clean out your pores. It's far beyond what you can do with hot water and what they pass off for soap these days.
Since I started adding essential oils to coconut oil, I almost never touch soap these days. When I do it tends to be real soap or high quality conditioner.
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This is neither here nor there, more for a laugh, but when I was at university I flyered all over campus for an Aikido class for persons with blindness. Ironically nobody that it applied to saw it.
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2 hours ago, Kaur10 said:
Jugati or technique makes any work easier. Like there are formulas to count the given data in statistics, one could imagine how long it could take someone to add them manually. Same in life, we use specific techniques to finish tasks easily.
You must have heard about the Great Farid Ji bhagat, his tapasyaa was very famous as it was for years and hard on his body.
These days human bodies and minds are not that strong, we could not do that. That's why guru ji has given us an easy way of reaching The Allmighty Waheguru and that is Naam Simran.
As we do Naam Simran, kalyug is actively trying to deter us from collecting the precious naam and bombard us with kaam, krodh, loss of concentration, job promotion, kids problems etc .
I am experiencing jealousy these days as my sister bought very big house. Now i am telling my mind that it is trick of kalyug. I could buy bigger one too, but then would waste all my time in earning money and time to maintain the house standards.
Time to go back to work, would share the rest later.
Love the share friend.
We certainly get bombarded.
Interesting that housing specifically is mentioned as part of the control mechanisms of Kalyug.
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46 minutes ago, sevak said:One Q. I have been following this thread. Is all this science, techniques, methods necessary to do Naam Jap (Recite God’s Nam)?
What about the poor illiterate, moorakh who has no education, who dont understand this intricate things? How do they Naam Jap? This means person who dont know such science / techniques- God is inaccessible to them?
Hah. I used to think that when I'd look at reflexology charts of the foot and the points and what health benefit and organ they stimulate etc, and I'd think that's incredible they figured all this out, and I believe them really but.... can't I just press my whole foot especially the parts that hurt?
Different Shaheeds used different Pangtis and maintained their equipose while Akal demonstrated supernatural feats. For some it was Japji, others just the Gurmantar. But what they all had in common was a lot, a lot, of recititation, a lot of repetition, amazing amounts of focus and Prem Bhagti.
Everybody learns differently and internalizes information and grows differently. Anyone who embraces Naam will taste it's perfection and the perfection of all its' fruits.
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Sort of a tangent. I did some mushrooms 20 years ago with my buddy Dave. And we commenced to hallucinating out in the wilderness and we started hearing weird unearthly noises and felt a pressence nearby unseen. We heard crazy unnatural noises. So we individually assume that it's a hallucination. Then say to each other hey you hear that?
Except we both had the same hallucinations. If two people have the same hallucination...is it a hallucination? Shouldn't hallucinations be individualized?
We've both spent a lot of time in that forest and never had any experience like that, heard anything like that before. And when we did hear whatever, it was real and evident to both of us and consistent.
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4 hours ago, paapiman said:
Do you think that she was hallucinating?
Bhul chuk maaf
It's hard to say. That's part of what's interesting.
She's definitely talking to someone I don't see to begin with.
I'm sure a dr would find her mentally ill.
But then why be effected by a Jaikara she can't hear?
Why did her hallucination offer her exactly what Sikhi offers all of us?
Whoever was offering her help was persistent but she was refusing it adamantly.
I'm not sure if this a word but she was talking about persuing asanjog. Committed to asanjog.
So whoever was addressing her was talking about moving towards the light from the darkness. Was talking about Sanjog. Was talking about God. Which I wasn't. I said hey you want a slice?
Only way to infer what the invisible was saying to her was in her responses to it.
Could that be just a hallucination? Sure. One that is absolutely in sync with the spiritual aspects that had occured that the woman is unaware of.
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Had this experience just this evening. Went out for a pizza and on my way out I hear this woman confronting the invisible coming down the street. So I quietly utter the Jaikara and then as we get closer she starts swerving like lining up with me as we approach. I offer her a slice and she sort of continues her conversation with me about her drug addiction, and homelessness, and crime she intends to commit for drugs now and shelter if caught, and I haven't said anything, managed a few consilitory statememts in. And the entire time she keeps shifting from looking at me to looking over my left shoulder and up at something taller than me. And she goes on to vent, and I haven't mentioned anything about anything, and she keeps addressing me and whoever is up and to my left about how angry she is at God and that she fully intends to keep walking away from God in the direction of seperateness, and it was like she was responding to an invitation or warning but certainly not one I gave her.
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So that's more Akhand Paath than an individual SehajPath?
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4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:
This guy's funny. The way he gets worked up makes me laugh.....lol
Lol. This dude is great.
I watched it twice. Lol.
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Sort of a tangent, but when I am not doing a direct Ardas and I want, or need help, or wish help for someone I see suffering, I let loose a loud singing of Jo Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akal!!! To bring the awareness of Shaeed Singhs to whoever or whatever is happening. I use it a lot for myself when I'm feeling attacked or beset and when I see the homeless fighting their invisible tormentors I ask Shaheed Singhs to come be with them in that moment too and to ride down on whatever is tormenting the poor person.
And the number of times the poor person stops their delusional fight a moment and looks around or changes their interaction with what they're seeing is profound.
Sometimes they stop entirely. Their entire face lights up and they get excited, and you can tell they are watching their bully get sorted. Other times the relief is more brief and less noticeable and they go right back to the torment.
Every time. Every time. You see it have some effect from a distance and a lot of the time they start looking around to see who's Interacting with them.
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3 hours ago, paapiman said:Khalsa does not need to ask them for help, they might themselves come to help the Sikhs in battlefields.
You don't always need to ask someone for help. Sometimes, if people see you in trouble, they might just naturally help you out.
Bhul chuk maaf
6 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:Give me one evidence when Khalsa Fauj tried to take help of Devi devte to fight battles. I would again say,it will be an insult to Vaheguru. We already have Dasam bani and mool mantar with us which are much stronger than the devi devte. We don't need their help when we have bani.
Just woke up. Brain isn't working yet. But I think you guys are agreeing here.
Yes. Devte have always been sent to help creation and humanity.
Yes. You will see their forces join the forces of the Khalsa in battle.
No. We don't pray to them.
We can praise Akal and the Guru Sahiban, and even reference Devte as they appear in Gurbani. Dasam Granth has praises for those great spiritual warriors that help us, with whom the Guru is impressed. Mainly females which is awesome.
If some Dasam Granth like things were happening again, you'd be praying to Akal and your prayers may be answered by a Devte and their forces. Because we all work for Akal as Dharmis. Like when you radio hq for air support. You radio command. They send the a10 warthog to be your angel. You don't need a relationship with the a10 pilot, you do need respect and gratitude for what the pilot does.
Khalsa Paanth is stil Maharaja's Own. It's a coalition of forces and we answer to the Most High directly and yes we fight alongside a variety of Dharmi forces.
Whelp. Slightly more awake. Hopefully that made sense. Lol.
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48 minutes ago, Trimandeep Singh said:
I'll soon post a link of a thread from Gurmat Bibek forum on this pankti. That would clear your doubts. I just need to find it.
Edit: Here it is. Vichar is supported by writings of Bhai Sahib Vir Singh Ji.
https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,33059,33068#msg-33068
Guru sahib kirpa karan
Trimandeep Singh
That was awesome. I think however it is said that it is not formed from the names but what the Mantar was?
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18 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:Bhai Gurdas Ji says on Vaar 1 pauri 49
ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਸਦੇਵ ਵਵਾ ਵਿਸਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ।
Satijugi Satigur Vaasadayv Vavaa Visanaa Naamu Japaavai |
Saṯijug saṯigur vāsaḏev vavā visanā nāmu japāvai.
In Satyug, Visnu in the form of Vasudev is said to have incarnated and ‘V’ Of Vahiguru reminds of Visnu.
vaahiguroo sabada daa aṅnvaya chaare jugaaṅ naala keetaa jaaṅdaa hai:-satijuga vikhe satigura naanaka jee vaasadeva daa avataara hoe, uthoṅ vavaa leetaa, vishanooṅ daa naama (lok) japaNa lāge.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੧
ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ।
Duaapari Satigur Haree Krisan Haahaa Hari Hari Naamu Japaavai |
Ḏuāpuri saṯigur harī krisan hāhā hari hari nāmu japāvai.
The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari.
(pher) duaapara (vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) haree (arathaat) krishana (daa roop) hoe, haahaa (aākhara leetaa) hari hari daa naama japaNa lāge.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੨
ਤ੍ਰੇਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਰਾਮ ਜੀ ਰਾਰਾ ਰਾਮ ਜਪੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ।
Taytay Satigur Raam Jee Raaraa Raam Japay Sukhu Paavai |
Ţreṯe saṯigur rām jī rārā rām jape sukẖ pāvai.
In the the treta was Ram and ‘R’ of Vahiguru tells that rembering Ram will produce joy and happiness.
trete (yuga vikhe) satiguroo (naanaka jee) raama jee (daa roopa dhaariaa uthoṅ) raaraa (leetaa) raama raama (lokeeṅ) uchaarake sukha paauNa lāge.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੩
ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗਗਾ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਲਾਵੈ।
Kalijugi Naanak Gur Gobind Gagaa Gobind Naamu Alaavai |
Kalijugi nānak gur govinḏḏ gagā govinḏḏ nāmu ālāvai.
In kalijug, Gobind is in the form of Nanak and ‘G’ of Vahiguru gets Govind recited.
kaliyuga (vikhe) guroo naanaka gobiṅda (roopa hoe, lok) gobiṅda (gobiṅd) japaNa lāge, (uthoṅ) gagaa (leetaa) hai.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੪
ਚਾਰੇ ਜਾਗੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਇ ਸਮਾਵੈ।
Chaaray Jaagay Chahu Jugee Panchaain Vichi Jaai Samaavai |
Chāre jāge chahu jugī pancchāīṇ vichi jāī samāvai.
The recitations o f all the four ages subsume in Panchayan i.e. in the soul of the common man.
chahuṅ juāgaaṅ de chaare (upara kathe jaage=) avataara vaahiguroo vicha jaa samaauṅde han.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੫
ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ।
Chaaro Achhar Iku Kari Vaahaguroo Japu Mantr Japaavai |
Chāro āchhar īku kari vāhigurū japu manṯṯr japāvai.
When joining four letters Vahiguru is remembered,
(gāla kee) chaare aākhara kāThe karake, vaahiguroo (pṅjavaaṅ) japa mṅtra (sṅgata nooṅ guroo jee ne) japaaiaa.
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੬
ਜਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਫਿਰਿ ਤਹਾਂ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੪੯॥੧॥
Jahaa Tay Upajiaa Firi Tahaa Samaavai ||49 ||1 ||
Jahān ṯe ūpajiā phiri ṯahān samāvai ||49||1||
The jiv merges again in its origin.
(mṅtra eeshvara de naama thoṅ) jithoṅ upajiaa hai phira use vikhe leena ho jaaṅdaa hai. (dhvanee iha ki phera sṅsaara dee praapata naheeṅ rahegee paramapadadee praapata ho jaavegee. arathaata naama naamee toṅ hoiaa hai te naamee vicha hee lai jaaṅdaa hai)
ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੭
Though Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji says this
He says this is wrriten in Loh Parkash which I believe to be Sarbloh Granth. The mantra that was given is the same but the people are different. Thoughts?
Busy, but let find that and compare it if we can.
Edit: Have a moment. Does Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji say that the order of Mantar was Vishnu, Har, Gobind, Ram?
I do seem to remember encountering a slightly different order and attribution like you said.
Because in Kalyug the Dharmi Mantar for non Siks is Ram isnt? I know people use variety of Mantars, but for Kalyug isn't it Ram?
For us Vaheguru.
Oh it's short lemme see if I can follow along.
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On 7/12/2021 at 10:36 AM, Mbad said:
Bhai Ajit singh has a different style which works for him and the Sangat who feel like they need a harsh reminder to do the amount of simran he suggests to them.
Sometimes a Sensei takes over a class and we all have to start doing countless more assertive, more agressive, bokken cuts with louder kiai. It's usually when the Sensei has seen in the Dojo as a whole, or in an individual who has triggered them, a lack of respect and discipline or lack of Bir Ras which they call Damashi.
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From SehajPath today.
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There are two direct ways to move through space time. Through space. And through time. Brachristchromatic movement, cycloids, light, and gravity all travel optimally through time. Most of us seek to optimally travel through space.
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19 hours ago, Guest Hardeep Singh said:
Waheguru G ka khalsa
Waheguru G ki Fateh
Dark dark night of the soul comes after the awakening of the soul. It is a process of dissociation with this reality. Hundred thousand of lives you have experienced in this 3rd dimension, and after so much time you came to know your true self, which is not the body or mind, which is eternal and trascends space and time. You have to experience the udasi or dark night of the soul before you dissolve into supreme consiousness.
I FEEL SO BLESSED AFTER FINDING THIS PAGE, THAT MY SIKH BROTHER ANS SISTERS PRACTICE SPIRITUALITY WHICH WAS THE REAL GOAL OF SIKHISM, RATHER THAN COMPETING WITH OTHERS. LOTS OF LOVE TO YU ALL.SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE
May we all be blessed with the recognition and experience of this.
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19 hours ago, Guest Hardeep Singh said:
Waheguru G ka khalsa
Waheguru G ki Fateh
Dark dark night of the soul comes after the awakening of the soul. It is a process of dissociation with this reality. Hundred thousand of lives you have experienced in this 3rd dimension, and after so much time you came to know your true self, which is not the body or mind, which is eternal and trascends space and time. You have to experience the udasi or dark night of the soul before you dissolve into supreme consiousness.
I FEEL SO BLESSED AFTER FINDING THIS PAGE, THAT MY SIKH BROTHER ANS SISTERS PRACTICE SPIRITUALITY WHICH WAS THE REAL GOAL OF SIKHISM, RATHER THAN COMPETING WITH OTHERS. LOTS OF LOVE TO YU ALL.SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE
Great revival post Hanji.
Catholicism and Christianity has produced some true gems in their swamp. It's proof of the power of prayer and devotion.
I will warn you as an former irish catholic you must learn to discern and trust specific christians only. In the spiritual realm we are allies.
The vast majority of christian organizations however, and their doctrines, and missionaries are dangerous to the Paanth and anyone they encounter.
The christian faith by and large is two faiths, and the dominant one is not dedicated to Christ.
Compete no. Protect ourselves yes. Discern and calloborate yes. We do need ways to interface with Dharmi Christians.
They did leave mass graves behind them all over the world and even the recent iterations are known racists.
To be honest real Christians would benefit from consulting Gurmat and the Khalsa for ideas how to sort their own over run house out.
We need to sort our house out as an example.
I also believe that it is Christ's wish that real Christians become Khalsa Sikhs, and short of that is the recitation of YHWH, Our Father, Hosanna, and reform based on Gospel and Gurbani.
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15 hours ago, paapiman said:
Is that person trying to harm you for no reason?
Bhul chuk maaf
I hope it results in a better understanding for them. And for me as well.
It's an extended family member I support lol.
If it results in everyone being well, my rog of hau me being taken and their head poppin out of their uhhh...then it's all worth it. Lol.
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2 hours ago, paapiman said:
Are you above the age of 25 bro?
Bhul chuk maaf
I am. @dalsingh101 has pm disabled on all platforms.
Punjab: Three children among five members of bonded labourers' family rescued in Amritsar
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That's disgusting on all sides. The dairy owner needs to be Patit.