GurjantGnostic

There's only two real Sikh forums. Only one of them is run well. Ergo defacto, this is actually the online Takht of Sikhi. Invite all the narcissism back from social media to come represent.

What to do? Stop using social media. Only use social media to link people to this forum, where we can have threads for each major issue, not tweets. Two, run our mouths non stop to make all fakes uncomfortable. And outsiders aware of what we're truly about. Be willing to be violent in defense of your words. Make publically cleaning house a form of Parchar. Embarass ourselves until there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Forget about punjabis, while real Sikhs congregate and invite everybody.

Like this thread on SS shows. If we don't bust these busters they're gonna ruin Sikhi and Maharaj will move on to a new Paanth. Period. A Journey Into Sikhi Akali Vadbhag Singh Nihung singh1986 replied to InderjitS's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING? I heard recently that he has now converted back to Buddhism because of the discrimination he faced from punjabi community? Very sad if this.

I feel like I'm ripping my Dhari on one side when I sleep. What's the discipline for this? Wrapping? Sheet selection?

This is also why we're hemorrhaging members to christian cults. Not even to real Yeshua.

Restricting Gurudware leadership or ownership by whatever lines, is one thing. Restricting anything about the Gurudawre other than that based on caste or mistreating others based on Vaaran? Either evict those Sikhs, put em in line or put em out, or take Guru Ji in the night and burn those mothers to the ground. That's what's up now. . We need to go to war on ourselves yesterday. March them phonies.

Understanding evil comes in waves and levels for sure.

You know where we're open and vulnerable? I successfully defended against all these accusations, but our enemies are able to point and laugh at jatt casteism overrunning Sikhi, caste based Gurudware and the way we treat dalits. They're at least half right. We need to treat chumar and dalits better, no joke, adhere to Vaaran and go to Narak. Gurmat super clear. Also super clear is our hypocrisy. Time to be very very...very...very... hostile to casteists. They don't give it up they're leaving the Paanth not just in spirit like Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj daid but visibly in the world today as we spank the ish outta em. Game on. Black Dastar on. You're a fake get outta Sikhi before I find and humiliate ya.

Facts. Pick a solid preferably traditional color.

Like...I can't even be mad. They nailed it.

This muslim dude is trolling us so hard.

Sikhi is Nirmal Paanth. It is Khalsa Paanth. It stands alone. It attests to itself. You could never hear of Jesus and get our salvation. But it turns out...fyi... God came to earth in a related form.

Another way to make this simple based in Gurbani. Gurbani validates Keetab and not quran. The dif between quran and Keetab is Jesus being God or a prophet. Ergo...

If you go vs christianity with our oral rumor mill Sikhi? Gonna lose. Go vs it with Gurbani? Winning.

Here's another based on that history once validated. Liar, lunatic or Lord? Was Jesus a liar? No. Lunatic? No. Oh shoot. Let there be no confusion they killed him for saying I'm God come to help your az as prophesized. Well Guru Saibhan? Liar? No Lunatic? No Indistinguishable from the Lord? Oh ..shoot.. Have I said Guru Gobind Singh is God? Yeah a bunch...he just said that's not so..so then...who? Ohhhh Adopted Son of God. Basically identical to an only begotten.

Here's an example of a christian apologist argument " Brother, It hardly matters who wrote the Qur'an because it still fails any form of textual criticism. The Qur'an cannot fulfill any of the criterian of the Historical Method, namely; 1) Early attestation 2) Independent, multiple and enemy attestation 3) Criterion of embarrassment 4) Criterion of coherence 5) Criterion of archaeological evidence The Bible passes these standards with flying colours, but the Qur'an fails miserably on each account. This is why no non-muslim historical scholars (religious or non-religious) views the Qur'an as an authentic & historically accurate medieval document. " Sikhi? Passes all those better than christianity.

There's a particular room on chouse. The christians in it. Solid as they get. Understanding of the word? On point. Militant. Attack all other religions. Drag en into debates. Beat em. They make rooms condemning every major faith. Never Sikhs. They're aggressive. I'm like a sheep dog with the sheep in that group. Proper exegesis of Gurbani, and proper attitude, protect the Paanth. They don't even come for us. Because of our historic reputation and the fact I know and show Gurbani and enough keetab. The best messianic rabbi on c house? Owns a printed volume set of Guru Granth Sahib Ji now. If you don't attack Christ but only christians, you can convert them. Or at least earn their respect and friendship.

I know it's counterintuitive but you can't convert Sikhs into christians when Sikhs know they are God's Fauj and Jesus is with them.

And another thing that makes us more impervious to conversion by Christians is when we don't like a bunch of Sims who've been colonized parrot parts of their doctrines that are not in line with Gurmat. When we act like a bunch of cookie cutter beta copies of them we're not going to really retain our members are we? When working entirely authentic to our purpose will have more than enough people. Bos stance on cannabis, and the way we run churches not Gurudware for instance comes to mind.

What should concern us more than them converting our weaker members, is making sure we don't follow in their footsteps and become a powerful, cult, imperial, evil version of ourselves. Especially taken over by wasps who openly have a cult in london we don't speak of. Buncha white women administering Amrit. Whole uk Paanth?

And if you were aware, or read all the posts from SS and then here. You'll see I absolutely accept Gurbani. Reduced Jesus to a unitarian state, influenced by bhi dictrine which I didn't know also, but when I tried to exegite Dasam Granth? As well as tried to make it match the rest of Gurbani and our world view? It turns out Gurbani validates Christ. That's the way all the Gurbani doesn't contradict. I thwarted successfully that dude that came to SS and told us about this match. But I beat him because he was inarticulate not because I was correct. And if we spoke today we would not agree still. But he's right. Gurbani validates Christ. There was another video we all laughed at. A good Singh, Sardar, simply explaining that he's a Sikh but Jesus is real. Dude is right.

Then they say But bbb but...you can't reach God without grace! And you say 1kongkar Satgur Prasad. Lol. We know.

When Jesus departs he says he's gonna send who? The paracletos? Another comforter? The spirit of Truth? Note because this Spirit is related to the Holy Spirit abrahanics belive blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. Right wrong on indifferent, for their emotions and for possible karmic implications I don't argue that stiffly just use it as a ...perky point. What I do is turn it on them and make them explain why does Jesus have to leave to send this Spirit? Why is it called another? What makes it differerent from Holy Spirit? What's it been up to? Oh..no answers...maybe don't condemn Sikhs then. In Judges his unknown name at the time is wondrous? Huh where I heard a wondrous Naam? In reveltaion he comes with who? With what tattoed on his thigh? Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh.

Heres some quick points. Sorry I'm at work. Bhai Santokh Singh comes to Kalyugh because God is in the flesh here. Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj says call me God go to hell? So who's Bhai Santokh Singh talking about? A Satgur has the attribute of making other Satgur...so who's the first 1? Exegesis of Gurbani and Keetab with respect to Gurbani proves the Trinity.

If the Keetab is true loosely, which Guru Ji says it is... I'ma put it like this...the only thing the Keetab does is use multigenerational prophecy to prove Yeshua was Har Avtar and he came in flesh to change the Karmic laws of this Kalyugh. So why aren't Sikhs christians? Well a lot of the understanding they took from that experience was wrong and their history is of the devil. But what the Keetab says is God came in flesh. How can Christ be real and christians so bad? Easy, they don't have his Dharam.