GurjantGnostic

6 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

@paapiman I will just ask you these questions which can help in further debate and move from one sub topic to another in a systematic way. You can also ask.

Q1. Do you agree purpose of human life is to do bhagti and get Mukti? 

Q2. Those who get mukti will only land up in Sachkhand right? 

Q3. Without Naam, can anyone get Mukti? 

Q4. If a non Sikh worships Hindu Devi Devte like Shiv Ji, Krishna Ji, Durga Ji etc, then can he get Mukti? 

Q5. Can anyone become Brahmgyani without getting naam? 

Q6. According to you, are Hindu Devi Devte in Sachkhand? 

Q7. If people were already being liberated before coming Of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, then why did he come on earth? 

Q8. What to do you think naam daan is? Is it simply telling someone to recite a mantar or instilling naam within someone through a method? 

Q9. Is there only one Satguru which is Guru Nanak Dev Ji according to Gurbani? Or in Gurbani, Brahmgyanis have also been referred to as Satguru?

Do answer these and ask me also if you want to which can help us in debating. 

Dhanvaad 

Trimandeep Singh 

 

Nice. Lemme play. Let's see..

1. Which human? Ultimately yes, but generally no. 

2. Various locs depending on type of Mukte. 

3. Akal chooses who gets Mukti. Sometimes an animal is given it. For most of us it will require Naam in a Manmukhi Jeev. 

4. A Devte can only help you be like themself. 

5. All Brahmgyanis use some form of Naam. We are blessed with Sat Naam. 

6. No.

7. Very few were liberated, many were suffering. He was always going to come in Kalyug. 

8. Both, but I think it helps a great deal to have experience and guidance in method most definitely. 

9. Only Guru Nank Dev Ji as we know him. He has many close creations who do similar work.

It'll be really cool to see what the initial consensus is and focus on the remaining things like you said Hanji. 

On 12/12/2017 at 11:18 PM, sikhni777 said:

This video shows us how prayers are first smoke and then turn into fire. Havan is a fire. So it makes more sense to me that this is the fire which our phaat turns to which in turn reaches God.

There is lots of evil amongst our people. We believe in evil eyes, bad luck, bad omen, prayers not answered... well this makes more sense as to what the cause really is.

I will watch this later. ...nothing stops your prayers. If you pray to a stone, Vaheguru Akal Purakh wacthes you do it, is you, is the stone, knew you'd do it according to your will, and charged you for it, and turns out was in accord with His Play anyway. Nothing is not reaching the Most High. Lol. 

I am sure there is something interesting in this video or you wouldn't have posted it, and whatever that is, I look forward to. 

Only the illusion that Akal is not with us all the time, exists for some in Kalyug, so we can show what we do when we think nobody is watching. 

Akal knows your prayers better than you do. 

Catch him on news camera asked about farmers protests and you'll see Jagi Vasudev, and a scared one. 

No more ...proposterous name. The man. 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Please provide evidence from a credible source and start a new topic on it.

Thanks a lot.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yeah @KingTarunjotYT waded in heavy lol. But...I hear things are indeed out there. 

I Like Jagi Vasudev.

He is compromised. 

He is a lovely actor working for bad people and they may have dirt on him. 

18 minutes ago, KingTarunjotYT said:

sadhguru is nakli baba, murderer, thief, hindutavi poster boy, lying scumbag. You might as well go to pandit ji and ask him for advice.

True. The info they feed him is sort of like the public school version of some dharam like things. But you do have as high of a chance encountering principles from him as say, neo spirtualists online, or youtube videos on weird concepts by amatures. 

I don't watch his stuff. I only briefly did to study him. 

But, just because he's mouthpiecing info doesn't mean some of it isn't true. 

I..was not expecting this...nobody could expect this...only the Japanese.....

This guy is good. 

 I would use slightly different body mechanics but his mindset is good. 

You can still do this with less tools if you have a drill and a file. You chain drill it, then file it, then sand it, then sharpen it. 

Personally don't think living trees are the best backstop for these things though. 

Some really excellent HEMA. 

How you gonna "pressure test" that in the "cage". Podcast having, mma pundits, have me shaking my head. 

Something you'll notice about these fine people is that they have empty hand, and weaponized moves both and they're identical in how the body moves. This is a must. However it is you think it should work, it should work all the time. 

Naginata.

Women doing Naginata in history and in curtent sport beat men with swords. 

Five dollar machete plus twenty dollar hard wood pole equals twenty five dollar naginata. 

Real Judo. 

Some amazing Judo. 

Some amazing boxing. 

Now this. ....this is way harder than doing it to people. 

This I can watch over and over. I feel better already. 

I heard a dude laughing at this video the other week. Bro. He's gonna stop your heart. Lol. 

I tried hard to find the post this originated in. Anyway. 

It's fake unfortunately. Or faked I should say. 

His Ukes are garbage. There is something to what he's doing but it's hard to see through their theatrical, poorly done, fake, reception of the force. 

When you see this for real the natural shape of the force is obvious. The ukes should look like they got hit with a grenade or one inch punch not playing noodle man dance whatever. 

Such a ...I don't know what to call it...to see a monk ...and martial artist fraud bro...

I tried to rewatch to give him some...any...benefit of doubt...I can't even watch this again. It's offensive lol. He clearly does a lot of tai chi. Why lie. Bro.

He does show the aligment for one inch punch but shows the alignment backwards, but opposites are the same in forces because of equal and opposite reaction. 

Must Simran. Release ..urge...to choke...sigh.

On 5/31/2021 at 9:35 AM, Soulfinder said:

@paapiman Veer ji dass remembers how one of The Late Bruce Lee's movie Fist Of Fury where our hero battles with Bushido masters in the movie as it was a revenge movie which is one of my favourite movies.

Bruce Lee man. A league of his own largely. 

On 5/29/2021 at 10:59 AM, Lioness1 said:

This is awful. The governement should have known, what kind of government doesnt keep tabs on a school like that, especially where children were going missing. How disgusting. Governments should be monitoring schools strictly and ensuring that no child in care is ever be abused. Unfortunately many government officials are involved in child abuse as history has shown, there needs to be a change.

Uhh  ...All the common wealth ones...your people. 

10 hours ago, paapiman said:

@Lioness1 - Did you listen to the Katha link above?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

She's not here to listen bro. She prayed to Guru Nanak Dev Ji one time, and he gave her advice for non Sikhs and she thinks it's her job to now educate Sikhs on what Sikhi really is based on that. 

On 5/30/2021 at 6:09 AM, paapiman said:

You heard that in Katha?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Ah, here's some. 

Not the only Katha I've heard, but the first I found. Enjoy Hanji. 

1 hour ago, Lioness1 said:

Why would He love people more who do naam jaap if He Is All. You're not seeing beyond the illusion. This entire khel is love, Truth is Love. He doesn't judge and we are noone to judge, everyone is on their own path and stage of learning as per karam. We are already free, He's already all. The way to live beyond the illusion to accept that we are all just Sinners, that we are Nothing, as the Gurus did, that we are the lowest of the low, apply gurbani and then we're being real. Otherwise we are in ego.  The Gurus saw God in their enemies and served moghuls water after they were trying to kill the Gurus army beforehand.The  judgemental fools who fight each other in gurdwarras over petty egotistical matters are noone to listen to or follow.

Thank you sister. Please just copy that and post it in every thread.