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[/font:8e1628fd4d] Highly Respected Sangatji, Hereunder is a Link for listening Gurbani Keertan in Gurbani Sangeet Prampra and Dhrupad style as per old traditions, rendered by Namdhari Keertniyaas & Jathaas, recorded from time to time. I am sure that it will enlighten our hearts : http://namdhari-world.com or http://namdhari-world.com/new%20nw/frame1.htm Choose an audio track from Sangeet Stream and enjoy the total experience without leaving home!

N3OSinghji, so kind of your goodself. I,ve started downing the heavenly Kirtan & m sure that it will be marvelous collection.

waiting for anxiously Veerji.

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Tawarikh Guru Khalsa (Panth Parkash) Part-I & II by Giani Gian Singhji. All books by Bhai Veer Singhji. Sahib-e-Kamaal Guru Gobind Singh by Daulat Rai. Maut Raani Da Ghund by Lal Singh Kamla Akaali. All books written by Bhai Kahn Singhji Naabha. Books on Ayurveda & Herbal treatment etc. List is long.

N3OSinghji, I again request your kindself to kindly look into the problem, why link has lost. Kindly re-upload the files or intimate anyother available link for these pretty classical Gurbani Keertan (Asa di Var) files. I shall be heartily obliged. I believe you will do the needful at the earliest.

This section is dedicated to Gurmat Sangeet Maryada. Then why veer MIT has posted such a topic not related to the section. If desired, he may post it at another suitable section & also explaining why he wants such a study.

drkhalsaji. Gurfateh. There are two sides of the coin and in our post, these two sides are Kathni (sayings) & karni (actions). You have just tried to put one side of coin i.e. kathni, & that too on the basis of some multi-medias. Hence, the conclusion remains ex-parte (1 sided). The main questions pointed out in the post remained un-touched by u. I request to go more deep by seeing actual things & keeping in mind all aspects. Moreover, kindly dont mind. It is a debate to find out truth by joint discussions like brothers.

N3Oji, please look into the problem. I again request to kindly upload the 3 parts of Asa di Vaar by Namdharis, as early as possible. I shall be highly obliged.

p.s. It will further be in the reference and as Veer Vijaydeepji' s friend had a chat with someone elsewhere, recently, a Sikh Bibi residing in Distt Nainitaal (UP) told that a three day Diwaan was organized in NainiTaal area where Ranjit Singh "baba" had to make Katha for 3 days. But when the Sangat collected, programme started. The Incharge Bibiji, came on the stage and begged pardon from the Sangat that the Babaji is not coming because previously he did not tell the amount of money to be taken by him in lieu of Katha and that now he has demanded more than Rs 3 Lakhs, which they could not pay. Sangat requested that programme may be carried on by Katha Kirtan by other preachers/ Gursikhs. This is an example sufficient to see the actual things.

Veer Vijaydeepji, kindly tell the meaning of word "terrorist" used in your post. Regarding proofs, the links are given on the first page of this post while starting topic. Further your good report after visit to baba's place will only be about the things which are displayed for the visitors. The result will be different, if you investigate deeply, from the innersides. But, I feel that you may not be allowed to visit such secret places.

OK. I feel that our top responsible institutions (eg sgpc ) have much lacked behind & side-tracked from the subjects for which they were formed. Again Masands have intruded therein. There is lack of proper preachings of Sikhi & Gurbani. Though some respected organizations (eg Damdami Taksal) are doing at their best in right direction. But such so-called baabaas have intruded from the back-door by posing as "sant baba" themselves for their own business of making name, fame & money etc. It is the Sikh Sangat who will have to arise now and dare to say true is true & false is false. I pray that Guru Sahib bestow us with Kirpa.

dear vijaydeep singhji, Gurfateh. Daas is a simple human-being from Sikh community and having nothing personal or other secternal consideration etc. as u feel and I also donot want to indulge in any such activity more. But some answers about your questions are given. As already discussed, to touch feet of elders, ustaads are not much more considered violation of Gurmat Rehat Maryada. But, when a young person sits on chair or Palangh especially by keeping a plastic bucket before him and spreads his feet towards the Sangat, and Sangat (including Amritdhari Sikhs baptized by 'Baba") standing in a long queue comes one by one, touches his feet, offers money in bucket, gifts in hands of Baba, and'baba' gives aashirvaad to all persons (Ladies & gentlemen) ;by keeping his one hand on their head. What u will say about it. May it be called as sangat pushing forcibly to touch feet ? What about teachings of baba in his Katha to only bow our heads before Honourable Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Everyone in max. countries has seen the Video, which is not video-edited. About the photo of socalled baba comparing with Kalgidhar Paatshah ( painting as Dushat Daman Tapasvi), I may clear that we (Daas alongwith some other Gursikhs) could not dare to obtain this objectionable picture from the vendor as we were astonished to see such a non-imagined picture, & it was hurting our sentiments; though firstly we thought of purchasing it to expose to the Sangat (it costed only Rs 20 or so). However, if respected Veer Vijaydeep Singhji wants to meet the baba in this regard, he may go to his centre near Patiala or any other place where baba is having his diwaans, a no. of venders will be available having this photo with them everywhere including at ParmesharDwar. In the end, I have not read elsewhere in History about awarding Khitaab (post) of "Sant" to any Bhagat/Sikh by our most Honourable Guruji. "Baba" khitaab was awarded by Sahib Shri Guru Nanak Devji to Baba BudhaJi. The starting of this post was to discuss the matter with the viewers & most respected Sikh Sangat about the misuse of "Sant Baba" khitaab by a no. of persons for collection of money, famousness & other personal gains /benefits. There is exception of a no. of other preachers/ Kathawachaks/ members of Hon'ble Sant Samaaj/ other religious organisations, who are doing best to the maximum extent in an honest & sincere way for the welfare of Sikhi. I feel highly regretted if anything wrong is written. My sentiments may be treated as discussion to find out the truth & I may also be wrong from many ends. Sat Sri Akaal.

these photos seem not to be prepared with the use of Photoshop or anyother PC ware, but seem to be clicked with camers/videos while posing especially by the socalled 'baba' in special modes, including I exampled above in the shape of "Dushat Daman" painting. It seems baba is very much thirsty of his own popularism & advertisement.

Gur Fateh to all. Recently, in India, I have attended two diwaans of Ranjit Singh Dhadrian Wale alongwith many other Gursikhs. We found that around the area, where various stalls were provided, 98% of stalls (about 50 to 60) were selling the framed photos of RS Dhadrian and T-Series cassettes/CDs prepared by the Baba. No where other Gurmat related literature was available for purchase/sale except 3-4 stalls having Kakkars. We also saw that all of the photos (framed) were having Baba sitting or standing in various styles specially motivated for selling them. One of the photograph seemed very similar to a portrait / painting of Sahibe Kamaal Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji as Dushat Daman Tapavsi. I shall not give any personal comments upon it.

Respected S.VijaydeepSinghJi, Waheguruji Ka Khalsa, Waheguruji Ki Fateh. Much thanks to point out my mistake, for which I regret deeply. You are exactly right. After Aurangzeb,s death, Prince Muazzam taken over the reign in 1707 with highly Kirpa of Kalgidhar Patshah and named as Bahadur Shah or Shah Alam. It was the last Mughul Emperor Bahadur Shah-II, who was named Bahadur Shah Zafar who taken over as emperor in 1838. I,m highly obliged to you, my dear brother.

it is a very nice & much appreciable collection.

very nice one. darshan karke man (dil/banda) gadgad hua.

U R correct S-47 ji. However, the paintings as above & collection thereof made by Freed is marvelous & much appreciable. I have read in Tawarikh Guru Khalsa by Giani Gian Singhji that a prominent artist prepared a painting of Sahibe Kamaal Sahib Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, by sitting in their feet, as per directions of Bahadur Shah Zafar, while visit of Honourable Guruji to Delhi after victory of BS Zafar. But I have not read about whereabouts or existence of the portrait. Every efforts should be made by our top institutions like SGPC/Sant Samaaj, Researchers, Gursikhs, to find out or trace. May be possible, it is in some of museums or heritage institutions in England etc.

no picture is visible. please repost.

Respected Sangat Ji, Sat Sri Akal & Gur Fateh. Here is link for downloading software (Envoy reader- EXE file itself) for complete Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, having very good fonts & seems nearabout real Darshan of Guru Ji. I request & believe that all of viewers might copy the same & have Darshan of Jagt Jot GuruJi. With best regards, chhinderpalsingh: LINK: http://rapidshare.de/files/17091489/Guruji.rar.html

Dear N3O ji, Sat Sri Akal. I request you to kindly put the above file in SA's collections, for use of Sangat.

Respected Veerpartapkhalsa ji, SatsriAkal. Congratulations. With Gurukirpa, the software of Guruji has been arranged & uploaded including required fonts. Kindly see, if your requirement is covered or still incomplete. The main file in Envoyreader, is itself "exe" file and needs not installing separate software. The link is as below:- http://rapidshare.de/files/17091489/Guruji.rar.html

Link is not working N3O ji. please do something.

dearlVeer, Im making best efforts to contact that man. As soon as I succeed, I shall contact & inform you. In the mean-while please inform me, how to post it for yours & others' availability & use. Yrs bro-chhinderpalsingh