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what other religions do bhagti amrit wale? I reakon sikhism is the only religion the asks to wake up amrit wale and do bhagti! wow i feel so special being sikh! its a one of a kind! the latest religion! too!

tej is real good wid her voice. kyaa baat

yes..... to be honest... baba ji above and baba teja singh ji maharaj. R very ponche hoye, kamiye wale. They followed sant baba isher singh ji bachens to the strictest. There r lot of fake sants out there... but these r for real! I beg for their charan door! Their bachens r taal! what ever they say it happens!

is gone back?

any more programmes? contact number?

have u heard about the next avtar? coming very soon! theres gona be a big guy with a khanda in his hand. Gona go round world in no time...... all the sinners will be destroyed only the true sikhs would stay leading to sat jug. Raj Kherga Khalsa!

In SidhGhost Bani gur kai sabad jo mar jeevai so paa-ay mokh du-aar [glow=red:648726e467]ONE WHO REMAINS DEAD WHILE YET ALIVE, THROUGH THE WORD OF THE GURUS SHABAD FINDS THE DOOR OF LIBERATION[/glow:648726e467]

theres no point running u aint gona find god like dat, i.e there no shortcuts... god dwells within. Read bani... understand it.. and do ur simran and nitnem amrit wale. Amrit Shako Ji ! Waheguru and Moolmantar da abyass karo ji. Guru Nanak Dev Ji de photo nu tooof la ke charana tu door mathe te lou ji.

where in uk?

includes pics of birthplace of Bhagat Kabir Ji: http://members.lycos.co.uk/mrmal13/saints/ http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/kabir.html Kabir Kabir (1440 - 1518) was an Indian Mystic who preached an ideal of seeing all of humanity as one. He was known to be a weaver and later became famed for scorning religious affiliation, seen as a threat to both Muslim and Hindu elite. His monist philosophies and ideas of loving devotion to God are expressed in metaphor and language from both the Hindu Vedanta and Bhakti streams and Muslim Sufi ideals. His Work and Philosophies His greatest work is the Bijak, or Seedling, an idea of the fundamental one. This collection of poems demonstrates Kabir's own universal view of spirituality. His vocabulary is constantly full of ideas regarding Brahman and Hindu ideas of karma and reincarnation, and yet he also espouses ideas that are clearly Sufi as well as Hindu Bhakti understandings of God. His Hindi was a very vernacular, straightforward kind, much like his philosophies. He often advocated leaving aside the Quran and Vedas and to simply follow Sahaj path, or the Simple/Natural Way to oneness in God. He believed in the Vedantic concepts of atman and yet spurned the orthodox Hindu societal caste system and worship of statues, thus showing clear belief in both bhakti and sufi ideas. While many ideas reign as to who his living influences were, the only Guru of whom he ever spoke was Ramananda, a Vaishnav saint whom Kabir claimed to have taken initiation from in the form of the "Rama" mantra. Was Kabir Hindu or Muslim? It is a fruitless endeavor, indeed one that Kabir himself disliked, to classify him as Hindu or Muslim, Sufi or Bhakta. The legends surrounding his lifetime attest to his strong aversion to communalism. His birth and death are surrounded by legends. He grew up in a Muslim weaver family, but some say he was really son of a Brahmin widow who was adopted by a childless couple. When he died, his Hindu and Muslim followers started fighting about the last rites. The legend is that when they lifted the cloth covering his body, they found flowers instead. The Muslim followers buried their half and the Hindu cremated their half. In Maghar, his tomb and samadhi still stand side by side. [1] Another legend surrounding Kabir is that shortly before death he bathed in both Ganga and Karmnasha to wash away both his good deeds and his sins.

well said totally agree amrik singh. Shere of punjab are just trouble. We need a new establishment. What shall we call it? lol, got any ideas then amrik?

or may be we need to research how muslims convert non muslims see their tactics of positive influence. hehe (joking)

lol........ There aint much feed back. I was also awaiting responces from neo and pheena! I reakon some effective tuks from the guru granth sahib need to be took at and exposed to those who dont read and understand bani, to waken them up.

what about a effective leaflet given to parents? not too much info. Just something short and effective!

As know we have a resource of communication amongst us, I feel its important to discuss issues involving young sikhs being led in the wrong direction and falling apart from sikhi roots. I.E (sikh girls going out with muslims. There are also many sikh guys going out with muslims girls. Sikh guys getting pisssed and messing about! Some thing needs to be done to guide them in the right direction). We all know its important children are guided and taught rights and wrongs at young age, once bad habbits are undertaken they are difficult to change. Most muslim guys purposely target sikh girls to convert them and get back on revenge from our past history between sikhs and musalman. I just heard a story yesterday from my uncle. In Bombay a Sikh family had a court case between muslims over some business fraud. To get revenge they kidnapped the sikh familys daughter and got her married to some muslim. And posted them the pics! They have gone crazy! and they cant find her daughter. A Gurdwara in Goodmayes London recently got made. Now muslims in the neighbour hood are making a mosque right opposite. When young girls come out the gurdwara they stand their gazing at them. Some thing needs to be done to re-educate our heritage.... Otherwise sikhi will fall. We need real singhs and sisters to start thinking how to resolve this situation. Guru Gobind Singh Ji did so much to protect sikhi and know we have become lousy lazy careless and just sit back and say "well wot can we do, its up to them" Thats not the way Muslims think!" They teach they kids to go out and convert hence a big cheque! They are letting sikh girls getin mislead! We are supose to be fearless mighty sikhs! I also am aware of problems in Punjab.... Government r sending lot of Muslims to move in to Punjab! Bolee Sorne Hal Satsriakal! Please reply and give ur suggestions!

no that sant always dresses like dat, hes known just to dress like that!

theres sant baba gurbachen singh ji bhindra wale there too! top 4th from the left (blue turban)

DHARSHAN KARO JI! SATNAM WAHEGURU. OH I AM A SLAVE TO ALL BHAGATS THEIR CHARAN DUST ON MY HEAD! SATNAM WAHEGURU!

Five elements and meditation: 1. Those who meditation upon earth up to knees do not remain buried in earth. 2. Meditate upon water up to the waist do not drown in water. 3. Meditate upon fire up to naval, do not burn fire. 4. Meditate upon air (wind) up to throat, can fly in air. 5. Meditate upon the sky with dasam dwar can listen all at will. are u serious about this?

thanx neo interesting stuff here, whats Sato , Rajo, Tamo ?

He is really amazing, went to his diwan last night @ Ilford London. Turned up late but put a good message across to the sangat of sikhi in a short period. Full of confidence, knows what hes chatting about! professional! He was 23 yesterday!. Excellent diwan, good voice too. Wish him the best!

Reflections on Shabad as Guru Everlasting Most of the world religions seek God through visible objects such as idols and pictures in one form or the other. Not, however, Sikhism. Basic tenet of Sikh religion is to adore only the One Formless God - Nirankar. But due to impact of our ancient culture and beliefs prevailing in our country and teaching by some so-called saints and sects, veneration of the Guru’s picture and idols is subtly creeping in. Reverence to Guru Granth Sahib is not a worship of a physical object, it is adoration of the shabad, or the spiritual content embodied in it. Guru Gobind Singh has proclaimed in very clear terms - Guru manio Granth - that the Guruship hereafter is vested in the shabad which is the Divine Light - Jot of the Ten Gurus. He also ordained that Guru Granth Sahib is the visible person of the Guru - Pargat guran ki deh, and that whosoever seeks God, could do so by contemplating on the shabad. Guru Granth Sahib or shabad, therefore, is a living Guru. Bhagat Kabir has also stated that Guru is a living deity - satgur jagta hai deo. The main aim of Guru Nanak’s mission was to spread the gospel of One Formless God, who could be attained by constant remembrance of Him by simple repetition and contemplation of Naam or shabad. According to him Guru, Naam, shabad and bani are one and the same - Eka bani, ik gur, eko shabad vichar. Guru Nanak is commonly known as ‘Nanak-Nirankari'. He is so called, as he is the first prophet who laid stress on the formless aspect of God. ‘Nanak-Nirankari' is concerned with principles, motivation, affection and faith, and not with rites and rituals or other futilities which do not lead us towards God realisation. The whole Gurbani particularly ‘Asa-di-var' condemns hypocritical reading of scriptures and theatricals of devotion. The Mul-Mantra spells, in most concise terms, the qualities and attributes of God. One of these is ‘Akal Moorat' which means that God is beyond time and space (Akal) and His form is eternal (Moorat). This means that He exists and is a reality but without any features, form or colour. In Kirtan Sohila, Guru Nanak says that “God has thousands of eyes, yet he has none. His forms are thousands, yet He has no form,... I am bewitched by this phenomenon. It simply means that whereas all the eyes and forms of the creatures in the universe are His, or belong to Him because He pervades all, yet He has no single specific form. In Japuji, Guru Nanak says that “God cannot be installed nor can He be created" - “Thapia na jae, keeta na hoe, Ape Ap niranjan soe, because “The pure One is self-existent". Self-Existence as an attribute of God is also mentioned as Sai-Bhang in the Mul-Mantra. Shabad has two connotations - the written form and the sound aspect. Written form is worldly, as it can be read, spoken and studied. The sound aspect is related to hearing, voice, tune, concentration, awareness and understanding. Hearing has direct link with consciousness (surti). Consciousness belong to the spiritual field and is a ray or speck of the super-consciousness which is God. One who hears with devotion and bears it in his heart, gets absorbed in meditation easily - sunye lage sahaj dhian. Since God is formless he can only be sougt through formless spirit, and not through any material object or a physical person - Jeo jal mein jal ae khatana, tio joti sang jot samana. Unfortunately, there are these days mainly hypocrites and jugglers in the garb of spiritual preachers or redeemers who, for selfish ends, are exploiting innocent people by stressing that a living guru is needed for salvation and that an object is needed for concentration. For this they quote many shabads from Gurbani such as Gur ki moorat man mein dhyan - Guru’s image is needed for concentration. Bhai Gurdas, the scribe of Guru Granth Sahib, in his psalms which have been blessed by Guru Arjun Dev as the key for understanding of Gurbani, categorically mentions that the form of the Guru is his shabad and not his body. Here are few quotations from Bhai Gurdas’s work: Gur moorat gur shabad hai, sadh sangat mil amrit vela. [Var 24, stanza 11.] Guru’s form is his shabad, which can be obtained in early morning holy congregation. Gur moorat gur shabad hai, sadh sangat samsar parwana. [Var 24, stanza 15.] Guru’s form is shabad.The shabad and sadh sangat is one and the same. Gur moorat gur shabad sun, sadh sangat asan nirankari - [Var 11 stanza 2.] Listen to the Guru’s shabad as the Guru’s form. Sadh sangat is the seat of God. It is repeatedly stated in Gurbani that shabad is the Divine Light, i.e. Guru, and not the body. Idol worship is decried. Guru Arjun Dev has stated that adoration other than that of God is homicidal. Guru Gobind Singh in one of his compositions has questioned as to how can a dead and spiritless entity bestow any favour? - Jo jee hot, tau det kachhu tohi. He even declared that those who call him as Almighty would go to hell. Bhagat Kabir has very forthrightly said that an idol, if it has any power, should destroy its carver who trampled upon it during its chiselling: Pakhan ghad ke moorat kini, deke chhati pao Jeh eh moorat sachi hai, to gharanhare khao. Shabad is connected with surti which has to be attuned to the melody of shabad to realise God - Shabad surat bhav sagar tarie. In this process, shabad becomes the Guru and surti absorbed in its melody is its follower (chela) - Shabad Guru, surat dhun chela. To achieve union of surti with Gur-shabad, we have to continuously remember God, submit to His Will and try to mould our life to truthful living. This is not a simple affair. The Guru, in his mercy, has suggested an easy way to make a beginning towards this end in the following shabad and its rendering in English: a. Antar Guru aradhna, jehva jup gur naon. b. Netri Satgur pekhna, sarvani sun-na gur naon. c. Satgur seti ratia, dargeh paiye thaon. d. Koh Nanak kirpa kare, jisno eh vath de. e. Jug mein utam kadhie, virle kei ke. Remember God with utmost attention, love and devotion in mind (which should be kept under control and not allowed to wander). Utter God’s Name with the tongue (so that it could be heard). Visualise God’s presence within and around us. Hear God’s Name being uttered with faith and obey His Command. Absorbed and imbued with the Lord, we shall find a place in His celestial court, i.e. we shall be accepted by Him. Guru Nanak says that whomsoever God gives the gift of His Naam, shall also receive His Grace. Such pure persons who are blessed, are rare indeed. Guru Nanak has rejected worship of objects and has maintained that concentration can be achieved by chanting and listening to God’s attributes - Sunie lage sahaj dhyan (Japuji Stanza 10). He is more explicit and concise in another verse, Gagan, agam, anath, ajoni. Asthir Cheet Samadh Sagoni (Dakhni Oankar Stanza 20). It means that stillness of mind in samadhi can be obtained (asthir cheet samadh) by contemplating on the great attributes (sagoni) of the Formless (gagan) who is beyond comprehension (agam), Masterless (anath) and Unborn (ajoni). It avers that in the spiritual field there is no place for material intervention. Meditation upon Formless God inculcates in us Godly qualities, whereas human being and his created objects lead us to worldly attachment and illusion - the very negation of salvation.

rwgu DnwsrI mhlw 1] Rag Dhanasri Mahalla 1. ggn mY Qwlu riv cMdu dIpk bny qwirkw mMfl jnk moqI] DUpu mlAwnlo pvxu cvro kry sgl bnrwie PUlMq joqI]1] Gagan mai thal Rav’ Chand dipak bane tarika mandal janak moti. Dhup malian lo pavan chavro kare sagal banrai phulant joti. In the tray of sky, sun and moon serve as lamps; stars together with their satellites’system are pearls studded to it. Perfume of Sandal wood aids as incense, while breeze fans it; whole of the vegitation, as if, showers flowers. kYsI AwrqI hoie]Bv KMfnw qyrI AwrqI]Anhqw sbd vwjMq ByrI]1]rhwau] Kaisi arti hoi. Bhavkhandna Teri Arti. Anhata Sabd Vajant Bheri.1.Rahau. O, Radient Lord, what a wonderful ‘worship-with-lamps’ is being performed; Thy ‘worship-with-lamps’, O, Lord- the annihilator of fear. Unstruck music replaces the temple bells. Pause. shs qv nYn nn nYn hih qoih kau shs mUriq nnw eyk quohI] shs pd ibml nn eyk pd gMD ibnu shs qv gMD iev clq mohI]2] Sahs Tav Nain Nan Nain heh’ Toh’ Ku Sahs Murt’ Nana Ek Tuhi. Sahs Pad Bimal Nan Ek Pad Gandh Bin Sahs Tav Gandh Iv Chalat Mohi. You possess thousands of eyes, while you have no eye; You have thousands of forms, yet You are formless; You have thousands of sacred feet, while you have not a single one; Many thousand noses you possess, yet You have none; I feel enchanted on Your these wondrous performances. sB mih joiq joiq hY soie]iqsdY cwnix sB mih cwnxu hoie] gur swKI joiq prgtu hoie]jo iqsu BwvY su AwrqI hoie]3] Sabh meh Jot’ Jot’ hai Soi. Tisdai Chanan’ sabh meh chanan hoi. Gur Sakhi Jot’ pargat hoi. Jo tis bhavai Su Arti Hoi. In all there is light, and that Light is You. His Light shines forth in all. Following Guru’s wise teaching, this light becomes visible. That which pleases Him is the real worship-with-lamps. hir crx kvl mkrMd loiBq mno Anidnuo moih AwhI ipAwsw] ikRpw jlu dyih nwnk swirMg kau hoie jwqy qyrY nwie vwsw]4]3] Har’ Charn Kaval Makrand Lobhit Mano Andino Mohe’ Ahi Piasa. Kripa Jal Deh’ Nanak Saring ku hoi jate terai Nai Vasa. 3. Honey of God’s Lotus Feet has fascinated my soul; I long for them day and night. Grant water of Thy compassion to cuckoo-Nanak, (O, God), so as he may merge in Thy Name.

What is Jot? Where is this lit? Are there any sounds heard when Jot pargat hoye?

what about anhat shabad? what sort of sound is that?