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If we accept the authority of Veda's then how come we deny that sikhism is not sect of hinduism?

"I feel no need for food and water," states Prahladbhai Jani, a seventy-six year old Indian ascetic who lives in a cave near the Ambaji temple in the state of Gujarat. Mr. Jani claims that he has not had food or fluids to drink for the last sixty-five years. At the age of seven years he left home in search of spiritual unfoldment. Jani states that at the age of eleven years he was blessed by a goddess. He claims that since that blessing he has gained his sustenance from nectar that filters down through a hole in his palate, and has not passed urine or stools since then. Mr. Jani explained, "I get the elixir of life from the hole in my palate, which enables me to go without food and water." Almost daily Mr. Jani enters a state of Samadhi characterized by extreme bliss and enormous light and strength. He says that he has never experienced medical problems. He says that he did not speak for a period of forty-five years. In November 2003, after over a year of coaxing, Prahlad Jani was finally persuaded to participate in a scientific research study. A medical research team of twenty-one specialists, headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah, had Mr. Jani under twenty-four hours of observation for ten days at the Sterling Hospital in Ahmedabad. The team's research expertise included cardiology, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, ophthalmology, renal function, pulmonary function, ENT analysis, psychiatry, general medicine, and other specialities. A series of investigations were done on Mr. Jani in each of these areas according to a pre-determined protocol, and additional tests were carried out as per suggestions of the team. At the conclusion of their intensive investigations the team's doctors were left with an unexplained mystery, unable to disprove Mr. Jani's claims. Mr. Jani was initially kept in ICU for the first twenty-four hours. For the next nine days he was kept in a specially prepared room with a sealed-off toilet and a glass door. The room was also equipped with video surveillance to continuously monitor Mr. Jani. Additionally, staff persons were assigned to stay in the same room with Jani round-the-clock to make sure that he did not eat, drink, or pass urine or stool. To assure researchers of no possible intake of water, Mr. Jani agreed he would not bathe during the medical investigation. Mr. Jani was permitted a small measured quantity of water to use as a mouthwash. He then spat the water into a beaker to verify that none had been drunk. An ultrasound, which was made of Mr. Jani's bladder twice daily, indicated that there was urine accumulation, which subsequently decreased on its own without passing. At the end of the ten days of observation, the team of doctors verified that Prahladbhai Jani had not taken food or drank fluids. (The average person cannot survive without water for more than four days.) The team concluded that Mr. Jani's health had not deteriorated during this study. Also, according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr. Dinesh Desai, "A series of tests conducted on him show his body mechanism is that of a normal person." Mr. Jani's survival without food or fluids remains one of those unexplained mysteries. The following are excerpts from the research team's concluding report: 1. The protocol was strictly adhered to. 2. Mr. Jani had not passed or dribbled urine during these 10 days. 3. He has not taken anything by mouth or by any other routes not even water for 10 days. 4. All his parameters remained within the range determined by the committee. 5. He has shown evidence of formation of urine, which seems to be reabsorbed from his bladder wall. However, at present the committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same but the help of senior scientists and medical personnel of the country is being taken for the same. We are surprised as to how he has survived despite above particularly without passing urine for 10 days and remaining generally physically fit. However, it should be made very clear that we have confirmed the claim over 10 days only and we as scientists and responsible doctors cannot say anything regarding validity of the claim of his sustaining without food, drinks, urination and excretion of stools over several years. Dr. Sudhir V. Shah (Consultant Neurophysician, Sterling Hospital/Associate professor of neurology at K. M. School of PGMR, Ahmedabad) headed the research panel of doctors who performed this study. I am deeply grateful to Dr. Sudhir V. Shah for providing the Case Summary of this study along with the photos of Mr. Jani. To view the Case Summary of Mr. Jani in its entirety please go to: P. Jani Medical Report. Another similar research study, also headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah at Sterling Hospital, was conducted on Hira Ratan Manek. Mr. Manek claimed not to have eaten since 1995. Mr. Manek was kept under scientific observation round-the-clock for 411 continuous days. During this time Mr. Manek subsisted only on boiled water. This study also left researchers baffled. Dr. Sudhir V. Shah kindly provided a copy of his article about this study which was published in Gujarat Medical Journal – March 2001. To view this report online please see: Mr. Manek Medical Report.

Man who lives on air undergoes defence tests Scientists begin study on how Prahlad Jani lives without food or water. The idea is to replicate the process in soldiers, astronauts By Ahmedabad Mirror Bureau Posted On Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at 03:19:15 AM Dr Sudhir Shah and DIPAS Director G Ilavazhagan (centre) address the media Prahlad Jani, who has not eaten food or drunk water for 74 years of his 82-year-old life, will be kept under observation by the a wing of the defence ministry for 15 days. The members of Defence Institute of Physiology & Allied Science (DIPAS) want to understand if this process can be replicated in others’ bodies. The observation is being undertaken at the Sterling hospital. DIPAS Director G Ilavazhagan said, “Jani was earlier tested for 10 days at the hospital in 2003. Neurophysician Dr Sudhir Shah and his team had conducted the tests to certify that Jani did indeed live without food and water. He also did not pass out urine or stool.” Most people can live without food for several weeks, but without water, average human can survive only 3 or 4 days. Who is Prahlad Jani Prahlad Jani grew in Charod village in Mehsana district. He claims to have been blessed by a goddess at the age of 8. He says he has survived several decades without food or water because of a hole in his palate. Drops of water filter through this hole, he says, sustaining him. He wears a red garment, nose ring, and gold bracelets. He also sports a ‘tikka’ on his forehead. His followers call him ‘mataji’or goddess. Survival tactics On why the defence ministry was interested in Jani, he explained, “We have soldiers manning border areas where food and water is not easily available. We are trying to locate Jani’s source of energy. If this can be transferred to the soldiers, or utilised by them in some manner, it will be greatly beneficial. It may help in working out strategies for survival during natural calamities, extreme stressful conditions and extra-terrestrial explorations like future missions to Moon and Mars.” Ilavazhagan, however, was unsure what the study would reveal. “As and when a development occurs, we will reveal it to the world,” he said, adding: “Jani says he meditates to get energy. Our soldiers will not be able meditate, but we would still like to find out more about the man and his body.” Parameters fixed Dr Shah said, “The hospital and the defence team have formed two committees. We have fixed certain parameters including the tests that needs to be conducted on the 80-year-old. We will conduct regular echocardiogram (ECG), blood and urine tests. We will use MRI to scan his brain activity.” Recollecting an incident that occurred during the 2003 tests, Dr Shah said, “We found his bladder contained 120 ml urine. We asked him to reduce it to 50 ml. Without passing the urine, he managed to do as asked. By evening, we asked him to reduce it to zero. And by the stipulated time, there was not a drop of urine in his bladder. A human has to pass urine to survive. If he does not, his kidneys will fails. But Jani continued to remain in perfect health.” Earlier MRIs revealed that the 82-year-old’s brain development matched that of a 25-year-old. Dr Shah and his team is part of the study to evaluate if Jani is showing signs of aging over the past 6 years. Life insurance Mr Rajiv Sharma, CEO of Sterling Hospital, revealed that 35 doctors were monitoring Jani. “We wanted to insure Jani’s life. However, due to certain legalities, insurance firms refused our request. Finally, the state government insured his life so that the study could be conducted,” he said. Famous breatharians Hira Ratan Manek, an Indian engineer, who hasn’t eaten nor drunk for many years, was invited by NASA to study how he had survived on liquid and sunlight. Every evening, he stares at sunlight for an hour without batting an eyelid. NASA reports he survived 130 days only with water, and they even named it after his name: HRM phenomenon. He stopped to eat completely after he went on his pilgrimage to Himalaya. Zinaida Baranova, a73-year-old Russian woman, stopped eating on March 29, 2000. She first stopped eating food and in a couple of weeks, stopped drinking water too. She claims she stopped smelling food though she could smell all other things. She says she gains nourishment from the air. Scientists of the Bauman Institute examined her body and were very surprised to find out that the woman’s biological age corresponded to 20 years. Dr Michael Werner, a German cancer researcher, in 2005 claimed to have eaten nothing for four years. He said he derived all his energy from sunlight and drank only water mixed with a small amount of fruit juice. In his book, Living through the Energy of Light, he wrote: “I can’t really explain what is happening on a scientific level in my case, but perhaps just a little bit of faith is all that is needed.”

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http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=493152 Punjab Lawmaker Wants No Beard Clause Dropped From Boxing By P.Vijian NEW DELHI, April 24 (Bernama) -- A prominent Punjab woman lawmaker has sought the Indian government's help to rescind an international clause that bars boxers with beard from competing in national and foreign boxing competitions. Bathinda member of parliament Harsimrat Kaur Badal urged Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to intervene, saying the "discriminatory" clause would prevent Sikh boxers from taking part in major tournaments. The Asian Age quoted Harsimrat as saying that the International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) had issued a directive to all national and state bodies to ban boxers with beard and moustaches. She described such a ruling as unfair to Sikh boxers and that the Indian Boxing Federation (IBF) was "helpless in tampering with AIBA's guidelines since that could disqualify the Indian team from competing in international events." She had also approached India's Sports Minister M.S. Gill to take up the issue with the International Olympic Association and the AIBA. Punjab will host the national youth boxing championship later in June and the "no beard" ruling is likely to work against the host state.

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Any Link please of the above. Btw If Prithviraj really killed ghauri with shabd vedhi baan and chand bardai helped him .Then how come chand bardai came alive from Afghanistan? and wrote poems about prithvi Btw Here is what happened to Prithvi raj from another link. http://horsesandswords.blogspot.com/2006/04/chauhan-clan.html The more contemporary, and accurate, account is the Prithviraj-vijay written by Jayank. This man was a Kashmiri who had settled down in Ajmer and was a poet in Prithviraj’s court. The names of the Chauhan Kingdom’s ministers and generals are given here—interestingly one of these generals, named Udayraj, was from Bengal. The Prithviraj-vijay also describes the early communications between Ghori and the Chauhans, and the advice given to Prithviraj by the minister Kadambvas. There are two other books that mention these events in passing. The Prabandha-chintamani by Merutunga Acharya claims that Prithviraj was taken prisoner but was restored to the throne of Ajmer by Ghori. On a visit to Ajmer the Turk chief happened to see a wall painting in the palace that showed the Muslim soldiers being crushed by a charging horde of wild boar[8]. The humiliated Ghori had Prithviraj killed.

That was a myth created by Chand bardai.There is no proof that Ghauri was killed by Chauhan.

The following is interesting account of Defeat of one of the world's most powerful army of that time.This defeat changed india's history forever ----------------------------------------------------- The Second Battle of Tarain took place on January 14, 1192 at Tarain (Haryana State, India), about 80 miles (130 km) north of Delhi. The battle crushed the Rajput Empire. The main battle was fought between the forces under Sultan Shihad-ud-din Muhammed Ghori and the Rajput hosts under Prithviraj Chauhan. It is believed that nearly 10, 00,000 Chauhan soldiers died and many were injured in the one-day battle, though some historians estimate the total to be nearer to 6, 00,000. The battle pitted the elephants, archers and trained cavalry of the Rajputs against the light cavalry of the Afghans. The scenario would have been slightly in favour of the Rajputs had not their own cavalry decided to charge prematurely, which lead to their defeat. Rajput forces were so heavily depleted that the Chauhan Empire fell, and the expansion of the Rajput power ended. The battle was most decisive because it crushed the Chauhan Empire's dream of uniting India. The Rajputs had gained control of a considerable chunk of India in the intervening period (1107-1187). A large Rajput force restablised the Delhi administration after the invading Ghazni army retreated. After his invasion in 1024, Muhmud Ghazni had left the Rajputs in nominal control which however, proved to be a fateful mistake when his son, proved to be utterly incapable of maintaining control over the conquered territories. Soon the local population rose in revolt and asked for the protection of the Rajputs. Prithviraj Chauhan, the famed Rajput leader raised a powerful army consisting of one million Rajputs, and was successful in ousting Ghazni and his court from India. Ghazni`s fleeing army was defeated at various stations. The Rajputs chased him right up to Attock, at the base of the Khyber Pass, and Punjab was brought under their dominion. Muhammed Ghori could not allow this to go unchecked, and in 1191 raised an army from the Ghori tribes with help from Ghazni, and invaded India once again. By the end of the year they had reached Lahore, but Rajputs continued to pour into the conflict and by 1192 had formed a single army of over 10, 00,000 to block him. There followed much manoeuvring, with skirmishes fought at Karnal, Kunjapura. After the Rajputs failed to prevent Ghori's forces crossing the Saraswati river, they set up defensive works in the excellent ground near Tarain, thereby blocking Ghori's access back to Afghanistan just as his forces blocked theirs to south. Ghori slowly tightened the noose by cutting off the Rajput Army's supply lines. Their supplies and stores dwindling, the Rajputs then moved in almost 150 pieces of Hindu archery groups. With a range of several kilometres, these archers were some of the best of the times. The Afghan forces arrived in late 1191 to find the Rajputs in well-prepared works. Realizing a direct attack was hopeless, they set up for a siege. The resulting face-off lasted two months. During this time Ghori continued to receive supplies from Ghazni. The Rajputs, however, had no difficulty in securing supplies, the local population having become hostile to Muslims. In their policy of intolerance towards non-muslims, Afghans had pillaged the surrounding Hindu population. This offense resulted in the Jats and other hindus joining on Prithviraj’s army in the war, and thus the Afghans were left without resupply in the battle zone. This battle zone was probably between Kaalaa Aamb and Sanauli Road of today. The Afghan lines probably were a few metres to the south of Sanauli road. Rajput lines began a little to the north of Kaalaa Aamb. They had thus blocked the northward path of Ghori's troops and at the same time they themselves were blocked by the latter from the south which was the direction to Delhi, where they could get badly needed supplies. Realizing the situation was not in their favour, the Rajputs under Prithviraj Chauhan decided to break the siege. His plan was to pulverise the enemy formations with archery fire and not to employ his cavalry until the Afghans were thoroughly softened up. With the Afghans now broken, he would move camp in a defensive formation towards Delhi, where they had their supplies. The line would be formed up some 26km across, with the bowmen in front, protected by infantry and elephants. The cavalry was instructed to wait behind the elephants and bowmen, ready to be thrown in when control of battlefield had been fully established. Behind this line was another ring of 3, 00,000 young Rajput soldiers who were not battle tested, and then the roughly 3, 00,000 civilians entrained. Many were middle class men, women and children on their pilgrimage to the Hindu holy places and shrines, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see Aryavarta (Aryan Land). The civilians were irrationally confident of the Rajput army, regarding it as one of the best in the world, and definitely one of the most powerful in Asia. Behind the civilians was yet another protective infantry line, of young inexperienced soldiers. Before dawn on January 14, 1192 the Rajput forces emerged from the trenches, pushing the archers into position on their pre-arranged lines, some 2km from the Afghans. Seeing that the battle was on, Ghori positioned his 60 archer groups and opened arrow fire. However, because of the short range of the weapons, the Rajput lines remained untouched. Ghori then launched a cavalry attack to break their lines. The first defensive arrow attack of the Rajputs went over the Afghans' heads and inflicted very little damage, but the Afghan attack was nevertheless broken by Rajput bowmen and elephants, along with some famed Rajput generals stationed close to the archery positions. The second and subsequent arrow attacks were fired at point blank range into the Afghan ranks. The resulting carnage sent the Afghans reeling back to their lines. The Chauhan-style plan had worked just as envisioned. The Rajputs then started moving their infantry formation forward, led by the elephants. The Afghans responded with repeated cavalry attacks, all of which failed. About 1,000 Afghan cavalry and infantrymen lost their lives in this opening stage of the battle. At this stage it looked as though Prithviraj would clinch victory for the Rajputs once again. However, some of the Rajput lieutenants, particularly Govind Rai and Khandae Rai, decided to exploit the gaps in the enemy lines & dash; despite strict instructions not to charge or engage Afghan cavalry in hand to hand fight. The mass of Rajput horsemen raced through their own artillery lines and charged towards the demoralised Afghans, intending to cut the faltering army in two. The over-enthusiasm of the charge saw many of the Rajput horses exhausted long before they had travelled the two kilometres to the Afghan lines; some simply collapsed. Making matters worse was the suffocating odour of the rotting corpses of men and animals left on the field from the fighting of the previous months. Still, a major mass of Rajput cavalry collided with the Afgan cavalry, initially taking down a few thousand of Afghani troops. In response, the Afghan officers stiffened their troops resistance. Ghori sent his body guards to call up his reserves of 10,000 from his camp and arranged it as column right in front his cavalry of archers and spear-men on the back of camels. Because of their positioning on camels they could throw their spears over the heads of their own infantry and at the Rajput cavalry, who were unable to withstand the cavalry and camel-mounted spears of the Afghans. Ghori had 2000 such spear-men. They could be fired without the rider having to dismount and were especially effective against fast moving cavalry. With their own men in the firing line, the Rajput archers could not respond, and about 70,000 Maratha cavalry and infantry perished before the hand to hand fighting began at around 2PM. By 4PM the tired Rajput infantry began to succumb to the onslaught of attacks from fresh Afghan reserves, though protected by armoured leather jackets. The Rajput army had captured some afghan slaves earlier during the siege of Bhatinda. They had not been trusted to be in the front line because their loyalty was suspect. As they were captured slaves, saw an opportunity to avenge the humiliation. They started fighting the Rajput army from the inside. This brought confusion and great consternation to loyal Rajput soldiers, who thought that the enemy had attacked from behind. Prithviraj Chauhan, seeing his forward lines dwindling and civilians behind, could not move forward his young soldiers as reserves from behind and felt he had no choice but to come down from his elephant and lead the battle at the head of household troops. He left instructions with his bodyguards that, if the battle were lost, they must kill his new wife Padmavati, (Very Beautiful Queen know popularly by other names like Sanyogita and Padmini) for he could not tolerate her being dishonoured by the Afghans. Some Rajput soldiers, seeing that their general had disappeared from his elephant, panicked and began to flee. Khandae Rai, the big general, had already fallen to a spear shot in the head. Govind Rai and his loyal bodyguards fought to the end but they were massacred by the Muslims. The Rajput leader Prithviraj Chauhan having three horses shot out from under him by afghan archers when he tried to escape from the battle-field was finally butchered by Qutub-ud-din Aibak, Ghori’s loyal slave general, near Sirsuti. The Afghans pursued the fleeing Rajput army, while the Rajput front lines remained largely intact, with some of their archery units fighting until sundown. Choosing not to launch a night attack, made good their escape that night. Padmavati escaped the battlefield with her bodyguards, but eventually captured by the Qutub-ud-din near Delhi. Ghori raped her and forced her into his harem. Ghori later even married Padmavati and made her his chief Queen by giving her the title Mallik-e-jahan. All other wives of Prithviraj chauhan were also dumped into Ghori’s harem. After Ghori’s death in 1206, Aibak took Padmavati and made her his wife. Mass of surrendered Rajput soldiers were handcuffed and then murdered, their heads chopped off by Afghans to earn blessings for killing Kafirs on account of their families back in Afghanistan. (“the unhappy prisoners were paraded in long lines, given a little parched grain and a drink of water, and beheaded… and the women and children who survived were driven off as slaves - twenty-two hundred thousand, many of them of the highest aristocratic rank in the land, says the Siyar-ut-Mutakhirin.”22) About 10, 00,000 Rajput soldiers alike were slain this way on 15 January 1192. Many of the fleeing Rajput women jumped into the Tarain wells rather than risk rape and dishonour. Many others did their best to hide in the villages near Tarain when even the Hindus of the town refused to give them refuge in fear of Muslims. The main reason for the failure of Rajputs was that they went to war with their women. Prithviraj Chauhan was just married and so he could not leave his wife alone. During the face-off period of two months Prithviraj had planned nothing to surprise the Muslims. He simply spent the time in honeymoon with his new beautiful bride Padmavati at Tarain. As a result Padmavati became pregnant and the Rajputs even had a festival for this joy just before the battle begun. Following their King, the Rajput soldiers began to enjoy with their women and wine in the face-off period. This is the fatal reason for Rajput defeat. Though their infantry was based on upto date style contingent and had some of the best Hindu made bow and arrow of the times, they failed to organize. They had interfered in the internal affairs of the Muslim states (in far north west) and levied heavy taxes and huge fines on them. Their raids in the Ghazni territory had angered the Ghazni chiefs. Similarly the Jat chiefs, on whom also they had imposed heavy fines, did not trust them. They had, therefore, to fight their enemies alone, except for the weak support of all ranas of Hindustan. Moreover, the Rajput chiefs constantly bickered with one another. Each one of them had ambitions of carving out their independent states and had no interest in fighting against a common enemy. A conservative estimate places Rajput losses at 35, 00,000 on the Tarain battlefield itself. At least 22, 00,000 women and children were captured as prisoners and slaves. According to Mr. Hamilton of Bombay Gazette about half a billion people were present there on Panipat town from Maharashtra and on any rate he gives figure of 40, 00,000 prisoners as executed. To save their own kingdom, allied Rajputs ran to their native places, forgetting that Chauhans had just lost 10, 00,000 men and so many women for their cause. However, the news soon arrived that Solanki and Gahadwala Rajputs had organised another 10, 00,000 men in the south to avenge their loss and to rescue the captured prisoners. So Ghori left Delhi two months after the battle, heading for Afghanistan with his loot of 5,000 elephants, 15,000 camels, 5, 00,000 horses and at least about 22, 00,000 women and children. Delhi was under the charge of his general Aibak. Hasan Nizami was left in charge of Chauhan capital Ajmer. The Rajputs remained in nominal control over small areas of India, but were never a force again. The empire officially ended in 1192 itself when its last emperor Prithviraj Chauhan was killed by Muhammed Ghori. The Rajputs expansion was stopped in the battle, and soon broke into infighting within their empire. They never regained any unity, and were soon under increasing pressure from the Muslims. Their claims to empire were officially ended in 1194. It is worth noticing the fact the Rajput empire provided the biggest challenge to the Muslims in the erstwhile India keeping in check the influence of Muslim invaders, forced conversions and oppression of the local people. This Second Battle of Tarain saw an enormous number of casulties and deaths in a single day of battle, perhaps unmatched even today in the later wars. It was the scene of uncommon valour, unwanted strategic blunders, internal bickerings, murders of prisoners of war, and large scale rapes perpetrated on women. The historical record states that a large number of prisoners, mostly female civilians fleeing the battle, were taken as slaves to Afghanistan. It is likely that many of these prisoners died, unaccustomed, as they were, to the climatic conditions of Afghanistan. However, a large portion of people in Rajasthan (a State in India where Rajputs live in large numbers) feel that some of the Rajput prisoners could have survived and settled in Afghanistan. They believe even now, after 644 years (circa 2006), that the enslaved descendants of prisoners of war can still be found at least Balochistan in Bugti and Marri tribal areas. Moreover, the belief holds that the Rajput Bugtis and Marri in Balochistan have become a separated social group - perhaps even a dedicated caste - under Islamic rule. This ethnic group would claim descent from Rajputs captives of war brought back by members of the Bugti tribe, who served the armies of Muhammed Ghori after the fateful battle of Tarain. In time these descendents most likely intermarried and converted to Islam, though they were once considered bonded labour and prohibited from buying or owning land. Unsurprisingly, a rumor exists among some Rajputs that, till a generation ago, Rajput-descended Bugtis and Marri could be 'bought' for twenty or thirty rupees. Rumors also circulate that, even today, Rajputs-descended women living in Pakistan occupied Balochistan remain "fair game" for Bugtis and Marris. This has raised tensions between the Rajputs of India and the Fanatic Muslims of Pakistan, making the Tarain War a politically sensitive issue, over 640 years after its conclusion. The Rajputs and Marri Bugtis took jobs as unskilled labourers, which their tribal overlords disdained. Over the years some of them have come to occupy higher positions. However they are still targeted and remain to be rescued. It is interesting to note that this caste-like phenomenon has endured for more than two centuries, even in a region largely devoid of Hindus. After their defeat at Tarain, many Rajput women & children took refuge with local Ghazni chieftains, possibly intermarrying with their hosts, and converting to Islam. It has been noted that women in the family trees of several Islamic families, have Rajput names like Gajanabai, Tukabai or Indumati. This raises the possibility that these women came from Rajput roots. Unfortunately for researchers, after the Partitioning of India, access to the Punjab province of the newly created Pakistan was restricted, and confirmination of any Islam-Rajput lineage became difficult. Nonetheless, several Jat familes acknowledge about mixing of Rajput lineage, especially those settled around Panipat, Tarain & Karnal. The fate of the descendants of Rajput prisoners taken to Afghanistan remains a poorly-understood to this day, and is likely to remain so for some time. Neither the Rajput nation nor Chauhan leadership recognise the existence of Chauhan descendants in Afganistan, nor is there much support for the rescue of these descendents, if they do indeed exist. In the year 1429-30, Qutb khan, son of Hasan Khan, held the fief of Rapri which was resumed by Mubarak Shah ( 1421-1434, the successor of Khizr Khan, in 1429-30 , when the former’s complicity was suspected in the series of revolts organised by the Rajput chiefs against the authority of the sultan. During the reign of Ala-ud-din Alam Shah 1444-1450) Rapri came again into the possession of Qutb Khan and Rai pratap or pratap Rudra Chauhan held Bhongaon. Rai pratap Chauhan according to Sir H.E. Elliott was a son of Raja Sangat, the great grandson of Chatir Deo, the brother of Prithvi Raj, the last chauhan king of Delhi, who was vanquished in 1193 by shihab-ud-din Ghuri. The father of the Emperor's vizier, Hamid Khan had some years before, carried off the wife of Rai Pratap and plundered his estates, The Rajput chief, implacable in his vendetta, offered support to Ala-ud-din who needed assistance to strengthen his position as a ruler. The demanded as the price of his help the death of Hamid Khan. Ala-ud-din unwisely embraced the injured husband's cause and gave order for Hamid Khan's execution, but the vizier escaped and seizing Delhi offered it to Bahlul Lodi. Ala-ud-din retired to Budaun and soon after resigned his crown to Bahlul, who,in 1450, assumed the imperial title. Thus the abduction of the Chauhan Rani of Bhongaon was an important cause of the downfall of the Saiyed dynasty. Rai Pratap soon collected a large army of Rajputs and attacked Hamid Khan to rescue his beautiful wife. But Hamid Khan killed him in the battle. With the death of Rai Pratap, Chauhan dynasty perished from the world.

The recession is now almost over and with Birth rate of around 1.5 per british woman How many recruits in Future Could British army will find.Apart from money Britishers have no motivation to join the Army when they know that there is not even remote chance of being attacked or Invasion of UK.

Sikh Fauj of UK will go Iraq and Afghanistan to protect the interest of UK.That fauj will not fight for sikh cause

http://www.dailybestarticles.com/prince-battles-for-sikh-regiment-in-army/ Author: By Kim Sengupta Highly controversial plans to raise a Sikh regiment within the British army has pitched the Prince of Wales into conflict with the Ministry of Defence (MoD). The MoD believes that such a force would be divisive and immensely difficult to organise, even though the proposal has the support of some past and present senior officers. The Prince, colonel-in-chief of a number of regiments, has taken a keen interest in ethnic minority recruitment and is known to have lobbied for a separate Sikh regiment in meetings with General Sir Charles Guthrie, while he was chief of defence staff. Leaders of Britain’s half a million Sikhs think the Royal backing significantly boosts their chances of a regiment of their own. They say such an unit will be no different from the Scots, Welsh and Irish Guards or the Gurkhas, and there will be no shortage of young recruits from a community that prides itself on its martial heritage. Sikhs have fought for the Crown, from Flanders to Burma, as part of the old British Indian army, with a large number winning decorations for gallantry. They continue to play a central role within the Indian Army and have produced several of the country’s chiefs of staff. Mohan Singh Gill, one of a group of former servicemen campaigning for the setting up of a regiment, said “The army has a shortfall in recruits and we have young men to fill that. We have a warrior tradition and nothing to prove if you look at our record.” Harbinder Singh Rana, the chairman of the Maharaja Duleep Singh Sikh Centenary Trust, said “The army should do this because we have a legacy of military achievement with this country. I could give the army 280 names tomorrow.” Outside consultants brought in by the MoD to attract ethnic recruits have also rejected the Prince’s proposals and advised against forming such an unit. The MoD points out that a Sikh regiment will be a religious one. There are also logistical problems. There are currently only six Sikh officers and 18 other ranks out of the Army’s 105,000 personnel, which would make it impossible to form a purely Sikh officer corps. A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: “The Prince of Wales is very interested in the matter of recruitment from ethnic minorities. He believes there should be a debate on this issue and that, of course, includes the Sikhs with their martial traditions.”

I think it is from some NOrth eastern state where Indian army is given Armed forces special power act http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/document/actandordinances/armed_forces_special_power_act_1958.htm Several times human rights voilations are reported by Indian Army because of this law

gurkha's are part of India .That soldier is not occupying soldier

The character of Indian Army is not very high.In 2002-3 President's guard raped a 17 year old Girl in Delhi in Broad daylight .The name of guards were harpreet and satinder not sure they were sikhs or not but name of one looked like a sikh. Just few days back in Pune Two armymen were arrested for raping a 19 year old girl. I think Indian army need's psychologists to find out what is the reason behind Indian army persons behaving like this

I have not seen the show but I want to ask you are these so called reality show real in UK? In India these so called reality shows are nothing more than a Drama.May be if they shoot a reality show in pakistan they will show how much peace a non muslim family got when they practiced islam

is It really happening?Are the people who are running the Panth are jeevan valai Gursikhs?As You have good knowledge of Puratan sources Could you please tell was any time in sikh history there was any system of voting? BTW I am not in Favour of Sehajdhari voting because then lots non sikhs will vote in disguise of being sehajdhari for their candidate.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100412/ldh1.htm#13 Sehajdharis seek separate SGPC if voting right denied Our Correspondent Jagraon, April 11 The national executive council of the Sehajdhari Sikh Federation (SSF), a political party registered with the Election Commission of India, has decided to form a separate SGPC for ‘Patits’ and Sehajdhari Sikhs as they have been denied voting right in the SGPC elections. Condemning the new definition of the Sikh given by the High Court, SSF leaders stated that the fanatic attitude of the SGPC and the Delhi Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee the Sikh religion had been confined to the ‘keshdharis’ and ‘amritdharis’ only. Spokesperson of the federation Balwant Dhaliwal stated that the World Sikh Conference at Delhi was merely an eyewash of the Sarna brothers where 85 per cent of the Sikh population had been ignored by declaring them ‘Patits’ and non-Sikhs. ‘If a person who trims his beard is not a Sikh, a person who colours his /her hairs is not a Sikh who goes to the beauty parlour is not a Sikh, who consumes alcohol is not a Sikh, then who is left behind to be called a Sikh’, questioned the SSF leaders. The SSF council stated that after the Haryana, Rajasthan SGPC was formed and after that a few so-called Sikhs have formed an All-India SGPC but all of them have ignored the Sehajdhari Sikhs. They stated that the persons born in Sikh families who does not keep unshorn hairs or trim their beards cannot be called ‘Patit’ as it is applicable for those thrown out of religion and those who commit transgressions after par taking amrit of the 10th Guru. Labeling non- amritdhari as the ‘patits’ and non-Sikhs has divided the religion. Sikh religion, which is already in minority, has been divided into a sub-minority by this definition of the Sikh.

More Sikh men say bad things about punjabi sikh girls on forums than women.What about them? I think it is a case of grass looks greener on other side Are you trying to say that this is not true.Do You have any reason for this?

Sikhs have already asked several times to IBA(international boxing association) to remove the ban at World level for Amateur Boxing. 2-3 Years back I read that A bearded 90 kg + sikh boxer from Punjab wanted to compete at international level as He was already one of National champion of India.He was also relative of some Akali Politician.But after that no news came about him. BTW coach of Indian Champion amateur Champions Like Vijendar Is turbaned bearded sikh. I saw the fight of Amateur Boxing When Indian boxers reached quarter finals.To be honest I did not like it. The fight in olympics is extremely short moreover You don't even know who is winning by yourself as You just have to look at points counter. Muhammed ALI MiKE tyson etc All these got fame from Pro boxing

LOL and yet i read on many forums from punjabi sikh women that how good white husbands compared to Punjabi sikh men

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C03%5C29%5Cstory_29-3-2010_pg9_10 A third of all Brit men cheat on partners A new survey has found that a third of all British men have had affairs, and a quarter of women have been mistresses. The News of the World poll found that one in five married men don’t consider monogamy to be realistic, compared to one in eight women. Relationship psychologist Susan Quilliam said, “Men see prostitution as no more than a financial transaction. To them it’s a service without any emotional connection. They can keep the feelings they have for their wife or partner separate.” 75 percent of the people said that boredom was the main factor for cheating. Quilliam claims infidelity is on the rise because it has become easier to find people on social networking sites. The survey’s findings are: * One in three men have had affairs * A quarter of women have had sex with married men * One in five married men don’t consider monogamy realistic * One in three women who cheat do so with a colleague * 20 percent of men don’t think sex with a prostitute is cheating * 75 percent of people cheat because of boredom * 13 percent of men found their mistresses on Facebook * 60 percent of people cheat to feel more attractive * 14 percent of women aged 18-24 have fallen pregnant during an affair * 25 percent of women admitted to being mistresses * Seven percent of married men are cheating right now. agencies

Very nice article.It proved How sikhs were among best rulers.