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is it differnet 4 gyals dan it is 4 guys???? and how wud u get them off, without actually taking them off like - cuz ur not suppose 2 r u??? Am i wrong? :?:

okay sorry Kaal.... and any1 i have offended. I had enuff of this topic man... Obvious its goin nowhere and its doing my hed in. ... lolz But i still dnt agree...

i think pg 3 or 4

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa... Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh to maniintheasylm.... i got sooo much respect for ppl born into proper Sikh families. And too any1 else hu found dis path and is on it Fateh

but pageeee... wen u r married, its different cuz howeva that marriage turns out, its with Guruz kirpa. Okay so wait up yeah. Dating.... define this in ur eyes 4 me plz. Its tru... wot Maharaaj ses then OFCOURSE its right.... Marriage is wen ur 2 souls become 1... anything b4 marriage is WRONG,, just the way i see it. No.. im ot saying go live in the mountains or anything like that... but u have life duties... grow up... educatetion... marriage. No - Sikhi doesnt say deny your hearrt... but u r trying to justify this in terms of SIkhi... rite? You sed b4 it wudnt matter if we committed kaam -- huh????? Can u explain this too me plz. I dnt understand where u got this from.

but pageeee... wen u r married, its different cuz howeva that marriage turns out, its with Guruz kirpa. Okay so wait up yeah. Dating.... define this in ur eyes 4 me plz. Its tru... wot Maharaaj ses then OFCOURSE its right.... Marriage is wen ur 2 souls become 1... anything b4 marriage is WRONG,, just the way i see it. No.. im ot saying go live in the mountains or anything like that... but u have life duties... grow up... educatetion... marriage. No - Sikhi doesnt say deny your hearrt... but u r trying to justify this in terms of SIkhi... rite? You sed b4 it wudnt matter if we committed kaam -- huh????? Can u explain this too me plz. I dnt understand where u got this from.

thnku..... Inspirational.

Maybe that feeeeeld right. but i think wen it comes to Sikhi... no. BEFORE u get married u r suppose 2 class any1 older than u like ur parents; same age ppl ur bro or sisters; and younger than u ur children.... But if u feel u need this kind of luv... a sense of closeness i think, then is there something missing in u. I dunno. I think to say its okay to date... ppl get the idea of lust etc... U PARTICLARLY sound as if u r comfterable with this life where u say u can concentrate more. BUT say if this gal messes up right. And u get angry.... then wud that affect ur view on GOd? Its just the consequences of our actiona and the fact of we not being to control our emotions.... Like u say u can do ur Paaht etc,... then wud that change if sumthing ruined this relationship u have with this girl???? Its a thin line. I learnt that the hard way. WHat u r saying can be taken the wrong way, but maybe its just a lesson needed to be learnt. Maybe i have too yet. But to say dating is alrite - i think is wrong.

ive noticed Sikhi has so many different angles too it. makes me smile... How do u know if u r doing it right? VKVF

naaaaaa... u gotto 2 do it out of love. bring them in with love. but i agree... recently parents arnt teaching kids wotgwan about the religion. Thats y ppl like SAints share theire exp and knowlege... cus dey know how Its notknowing the knowlege and just telling sum1. You have to know how too. Just my opinion of being brought into Sikhi. so far.

okay pagee how is this. i have come from a background where my friends date etc... i know this might sound as if i am lecturing u. i am not. The path of Guru Ji is sharper than a sword and thinner than a knifes edge. i learnt that today (yipee...! - luv it wen u hear stuff like dat) Experiances of my past have told me dating is wrong. If ppl start saying it is okay 2 date.... i duno wot if it was ur blood sister or brother?????????? Ppl r quick to take advantage. Sikhi already (from wot i know) has a bad name. or atleast it dus where i come from. Just remember ... wot dus ur Kachere symbolise??? I know wot u sayin about lust n stuff... but if ur mind is on ur gal... and not on GUuruJi... then isnt that wrong. All your luv shud b 4 ur GuruJi or ur parents. I am not saying that i am any better. Bcus im not. But this is one of the 1st things ma bro sed 2 me wen he told me about Sikhi. He was very strict about it.... i duno if this helps at all, but i wish u the best. GuruJ will show u ur answers.

wooooow, neva thought id ge a big as come bak as that. Firstly,i wana say VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KE FATEH...! Secondly, i wana say A BIG MASSIVVE THANKU 4 evri1 hu has replied my post. Its really nice 2 know there r ppl out ther hu have been in da same position. I kno 4 me it will b a totally different lifestyle... and latley has become more thanjust a lifesyle. I just hope the decisions i make r the right ones... i was listenning to a vichaar on tape this morning that was lying round da house. It was about Sangat... It talked abotu if ur with a gud sangat, u can only get gud, and if u wih a not so gud one, than path becomes 10 time thinner. I spent my day in skool jus looking around and hinking about all my actions and my m8s actions... and i discovered a few things about myself that were gud and not so gud. Mostly my thoughts were not so gud, but i guess most of my actions were safe.. My heartaches sumtimes and other times i jus think wow!!!!!!!! Like all of u replying was WOW and to be honest i thought it was just me. I hope God embraces u closley today, because all of ur advice and warm thoughts have made me smile today. Thanku once again. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vhaeguru Ji Ke Fateh

All i know is "what goes around comes around" if u didnt know then u didnt know i guess. As long as u realise. I think.

im scared i will make a mistake. I know wot ppl say about "oh every1 dus and thats life etcc...." But with me, to a make a mistake wud be like the ultimate WORST thing ever. Im scared of what i might become... and i dont think i know how to go about it... or how to deal with it. Bringing me into SIkhi - i was caght while i was at the lowest of how far lows can go. What if i make another mistake? Im scared. Weird thing is... when im in skool and at home... its like 2 different me's. Im really scared of who i am at the moment. And im scared if the choices i make arnt the right ones, and i kow the decisions i will need to make will coe soon. One thing i've learnt is life is a test. One thing i have not learnt is how to cope.

I've always been with m8s, hu promised from the age of about 11 that we wud never turn into typical indian kuria that wud plaster themselves wid makeup, straiggghten their hair everyday to impress... be the whole typical gir;s with attitude and jus be safe to ever1. Now im 16 and i luk at a m8z and i think yoooooo, that promise went straight out the bag!!!! Da girls i hangaround with now to b honest are totally wasted. I know i shuudnt say it but just so u get an idea. The drink, go out wid guys etc... and havbe loads of fights which to me i dnt wana know. But im gna say it: "they're my m8z". :roll: Recently i have been brought into Sikhi... and hope to take Amrit soon. Dnt know wen yet. But soon. My friends became ore of a family to me at skool. The guys and gyals i hung around wid new me and i knew them. We all use to hang and they were like a REAL family 2 me. I was on the verge of going the wrong way......... but (as corney as this ight sound to the random person) i was saved. :!: :!: :!: I cud have off gone the TOTAL FLIP SIDE other way. Now... sutimes... i feel like i am being torn by 2 sides. Aside of my old faily - my friends... and this nu life. I not dumn.... (i dnt think0) and i knwo which 1 is the better one... BUT... sumtimes i get so depressed. I get depressed becus i think things i know i shudnt. And i wonder and dwell on things i shudnt... like from my old life. I feel the luv from my REAL family now. Its beautiful life. Only word i can use really. Beautiful. Life full of inspiration, luv, and a deepneess i know i dnt realise yet, but it feels right. I sumtimes h8 going to skool cuz i h8 the ppl i see, i h8 the way i my mind works cuz i dnt like thinking the things i do,,, and i know its wrong. I feel stuck in a way. AND STUPID. Sum1 needs to hit me with a stupid stick i think. I dnt know wot to do. I know i will take Amrit... but i cnt wen i have this kind of battle fighting in my mind CONSTANTLY. Sumtimes i feel i cant cope. Other times i think, im even stupid 4 even doubting. I dnt know how to practically and mentally bring Sikhi into my life at skool and with me everywhere i go. I'm wondering if any1 has been thru the same kind of thing? Or am i the onl one?

an older bro used to drink.. the whole works basically. nxt thing i know, hes off 2 uni, and he ses 2 me, i want to take amirt.... i was like wot?????? dis geeza, yeah, ma bro, 100% git right, propa hardcore joka etc..... i was like y???? and since den ma bro jus kinda brought me into it..... BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN MY LIFE.

Dus anybody know off any gud books to read on Sikhi? :?: Im really interested in this... even thow all ma m8z are propa wasted. :? thanx

i duno. when u eat God's foood in langar right... then u shudnt really b talking about anything bad really. Maybe just preventing the chance of kaljug entering the room..... me duno... maybe seperate area 4 ppl to have Vichars and stuff wud b a kool idea. dno realy

long naiks will get in the way wen doing sewa.... u can tie hair back etc....

THANKYOU SO MCUH That poem was read in am assembly at skool 1 tie, and i was BOOSTED when i heard it.... Really special Thanku penji.

ok thnx. Much clearer.... Wonder how it all workz "up there".... VKVF

"After Marriage there Karma becomes 1, so" "no it doesnt... everyone is responsible for their own deeds.. even killing ants counts.. heeheheh... " Me confused.

dusn that contradict what n3o was saying that they're not then?????

:cry: i think this 1 is hard to put in words cuz ppl will take it differently. Which is exactly my point. Every1 is different. Personally, i think living a strict life is quite important. Discussing things like this i have been brought up as "uynnecessarry". Hu else is better to chose u a wife, urself or ur GuruJi??? I know that might sound harsh, but if u let ur parents chose... then isnt that the chooice of GuruJi?? If u had control of ur 5 Chor... and think that u cud control ur lust etc... then wudnt u b propa BrahmGiani......... If u can contrlo all 5, uve reached a "next level" - in which case u wudnt be even questioning this subject. I dnt know. If ppl start beleiveing its okay to date b4 marriage - WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wud GuruJi date b4 marriage? Just like clubs and stuff. Wud u ever find GuruJi in clubs or pubz????? SOrry 4 any offecene taken.

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