On 3/26/2022 at 1:00 PM, paapiman said:

Among vaccinated or unvaccinated people?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I don't know, but it's probably both. still coming up on the news this week that numbers are high!

On 3/26/2022 at 12:57 PM, paapiman said:

Where did you hear that from? That might be in the case, if the wife is either non-Amritdhari or she does not keep the Rehat of Sarabloh Bibek herself.

I can't remember, but might have been sarbloh.info

I am also trying to remember the name of the alternative rehit to Sarbloh bibek the canada Singhs were using for water jal.

The description was accompanied by a photo, but I think it was on the old Tarna Dal site. It's a shame that there's been 2 good Nihang Singhs websites created during this century and both have gone down!

On 3/10/2022 at 5:52 AM, paapiman said:

Bro, it would be great if you could become Sarabloh Bibeki. This Rehat might help you a lot in your spiritual progress and plus it is one of the Rehats of the Khalsa.

 

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I heard Sarbloh bibek is a difficult rehit, and used to be practised by Akali Baba Surjeet Singh Budha Dal. I hear it is impossible in western countries due to lack of drinking water wells and I heard Canada Nihang Singhs have an alternative rehit for using water not from wells. I also hear some Sarbloh bibekis won't even eat from their wives?

23 hours ago, paapiman said:

Won't that be recited when you are actually doing the Gurmat Havan (with the Jaap)?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I don't think I understood you?

On 2/21/2022 at 6:41 PM, Righteousness said:

Honestly I wasn't thinking of recording it however it seems to happen very consistently, however If I were to record it - for whatever reason I feel inclined not to just based on the fact that the intention is soley to gain Maharaj Ji's darshan, if this was as a result of something that I do not understand/ may not be able to see yet at my current spiritual state then Ill let it be and take it for as it is.

More than anything just wanted to share my experience. The house is full of extremely devout GurSikhs and I personally believe there are Shaheed Singhs present during Amrit Vela as the house has light sensors every where that only go off when movement is detected and every day at Amrit Vela without fail the lights regularly go off from 2-5am. (this doesnt happen at all during the day) Also sometimes steps can be heard creaking up and down the stairs but this is rarer. I'm not superstitious, far from it. But you have to put two and two together when you have the background knowledge, I'm sure all will become clearer over my upcoming years of devout Bhagti. Not sure if these are common occurrences amongst the GurSikhs that centre their life around Gurbani and aren't alluded to the pleasures of Maya. Don't really have many GurSikh friends but here we are on the internet! You learn to see the jot of Vaheguru in every soul.  

 

I found this video with the translations, I know that Guru sahib made this baani by changing the original Durga Kavach (32 praises of Durga) and related Bram Kavach to 32 names of Akaal Purkh, essentially creating Akaal Purkh Kavach but kept the name of Bram Kavach as everything is Bram. If you could add any historical context it would be greatly appreciated as I have truly fallen in love with this Baani. Your wisdom wont be wasted, this is all the info I know, so as I mentioned If you know any further knowledge/personal/people you know ofs experiences please share 

On 2/21/2022 at 3:19 PM, paapiman said:

Do you want Daas to translate (in English) some of the stuff (related to Sri Braham Kavach) in the Kathas for you?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

19 hours ago, paapiman said:

Please read the Dohra, which can be seen in the above screenshot. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Havan is not included in translation of dohras?

On 8/4/2021 at 7:22 AM, Trimandeep Singh said:

This Kirtan is a must listen. This is a short clip from the Har Har Naam Samagam at Malaysia.

Whenever I feel sleepy, I just listen to it and all sleep goes away in a minute.

My favorite part is when the gursikh wearing baana (Bhai Gurpreet Singh) recites the Karninaama.

Dhan Dasam Patshah Di Baani.

Trimandeep Singh 

the bird TOTTA noises are offputting BRO  I prefer the raag keertan posts

4 hours ago, paapiman said:

Don't you take Vitamin D supplements?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

yes I do, have been since before the pandemic started.

3 hours ago, Guest GuptSingh said:

I would say the opposite is true, my current state of mind is causing stress and not vice versa. I don't normally worry about things and used to be quiet resilient, however now I panic, stress and worry over the smallest of problems and minor inconveniences. 

do you get enough sleep? maybe take extra naps to take your mind off things as well. I often fall asleep while listening to gurbani paat or keertan and have a nap. For myself, the typical 8-9 hour work day plus any commute time used to heighten my anxiety, I even went to a&e one day before the pandemic because I thought I was having a heart attack. However things are much better now since I work from home, or even if I commute as long as I can get a nap that also relaxes me as well. I use naps to get rid of stress and anxiety.

7 hours ago, Guest GuptSingh said:

I've had almost all tests done by doctors, including mri scan everything comes back normal.

 

I am lacto-vegetarian. 

also check if your are allergic to anything lacto. Lacto products really made me gain weight and feel lethargic, maybe check.

do you have any stress on your life, such as work, commuting, school college uni?

Those are the kind of factors that actually affect my sikhi jeevan, and I have seen some people really go downwards due to these stressful activities. Stress can make a human behave differently, and activate base instincts in humans.

On 2/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, sevak said:

freedom to run around naked for some.

seems like they would get that freedom in the jungle 

On 2/4/2022 at 7:29 PM, dalsingh101 said:

It probably would be a jut sachkhand given the narakh they've created in Panjab?

On 2/4/2022 at 7:35 PM, paapiman said:

Will the Jatt meet the Jatti in Narakkhand? LOL

 

Bhul chuk maaf

the canadian punjabi girls have created a narak on insta full of their nangi canada photos

20 hours ago, paapiman said:

They are not naked bro. 

Udhasi Sadhus are suppose to wear a Langot or Kacha.

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I mean almost naked, as in mostly unclothed, which in casual punjabi can be nanga as well. Although there are some non udasi sadhus who are fully naked.

5 hours ago, Premi said:

@HSD and @ipledgeblue you both in the UK? 

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

I think Ipledgeblue is from Southall? 

near Southall but also near slough. I am in a non-desi area.

On 9/6/2021 at 9:01 AM, paapiman said:

 

There is a reference to Sikh and Sikhnee (Female) in Bhai Chaupa Singh Rehatnama, which probably implies that Marriage can only take place between a male and a female in a Gurudwara. 

But, we must also not force our values on everyone else (which includes Sehajdhari Sikhs).

Gurparssad, more to come later.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Agree bro. The expectation for Sehajdhari should be set higher for Sehajdhari than Mona though, or they're the same thing. 

time for sehajdhari rehitnama Wajabu‘l-Arz to come back!

12 hours ago, paapiman said:

Which Charitar number? Do you have any idea?

@dalsingh101 @chatanga1

 

Bhul chuk maaf

read on a site years ago, the site had translations. I cannot find the site now, I might have to manually search. I can message you what happens in the story so you can try and search for it.

I think the first bit was about Sikhs working in the Mughal courts, who had to trim their moustaches and beards to work in the courts.

 Look again at kacheriya, so it's especially talking about working in courts.

Rehitnama for Sahajdhari Sikhs | Gurbani Vichar

Translation of Sahajdhari Rehitnama (Wajabu‘l-Arz)

Once the Sahajdhari Sikhs presented ten questions to Guru Gobind Singh. The Guru answered all the questions, and had them authentically recorded. This document came to be known as Wajabu'l-Arz: Proper and Authentic Answers to Questions of Sahajdharis. This document was signed by Guru Gobind Singh, and this is a correct copy of the same document. These Commandments should be considered Rehit-Vivek (Moral Code) essential for Sahajdhari Sikhs. These Ten Commandments were enunciated by the tenth Guru (Mahalla Das), each Rule was recorded and then signed by the Master. These Ten Commandments removed the prevailing confusion about the Sahajdhari Rehit.

(1) First Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: Master, we Sahajdharis arrange marriages by inviting the Brahmins to perform Vedic rites. Now the Sikhs say that we should perform the marriage by Anand marriage rites, enunciated by the Sikh Gurus and we should not invite the Brahmins. What is your command, Master?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered and Signed the Statement: First, perform the marriage according to Anand marriage rites, and then you can perform your traditional Vedic rites, if you wish.

(2) Second Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: What are to be our relations with five repudiated religious groups: (i) Minas: Followers of Prithi Mal, (ii) Dhirmalias: Followers of Dhirmal, Elder brother of Guru Hari Rai, (iii) Ram Raiyas: Followers of Ram Rai, elder brother of Guru Hari Krishan, (iv) Followers of Masands, corrupt and rejected priests of the Old Order, (v) Sirgum: (wrongly translated clean-shaven). It means Jains who are mostly atheists and pull their hair one by one, till they become bald.

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: Do not have any inter-marriage or socio-cultural relations with the followers of these five religious groups.

Further Supplementary Question: Master who are the sirgum?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: The Sarevare Jains, who are atheists: Anisarvadi.

Further Supplementary Question: Master some of us are traders and businessmen. Some of us are government servants. Our professional duties bring us into contact with everyone. Sometimes we cannot avoid them because we cannot know a person’s belief from a person’s face or dress.

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: You can always question a person about his cult and creed. Formal trade relations or market place encounters apart, you should avoid inter-cultural mixture with these people. If professional duties compel you to have any such relations with them, make amends for transgression of this rule by offering Prayer (Ardasa) seeking forgiveness.

(3) Third Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: Then the Sahajdhari Sikhs asked the third question. O True King, we Sahajdharis are your Sikhs. When our father or mother dies, we perform the mourning ceremony of shaving our heads Bhadra-karan. Now the Khalsa Sikhs say the Khalsa has been created according to the Command and Will of God. We should not perform the Hindu mourning ceremony of Bhadra-karan (shaving the head). O True King, we shall do what you command us to do.

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: Sahajdhari Sikhs should not perform the Hindu mourning ceremony of shaving their heads. They should perform the Sikh rites of reading the Holy Book, offering prayers for the departed soul and food in the community kitchen, but if the custom of the land in which you live compel you to perform other rites, you can do so after the Sikh rites have been performed.

(4) Fourth Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: True Lord, on the occasion of marriages in the family we generally invited the Brahmins and offered them food. Now the Khalsa Sikhs say food should not be offered to the Brahmins but to the Sikhs. True King, we shall accept your command.

Guru Gobind Singh Answered and Signed the Statement: The Guru’s Community Kitchen (langar) is open to all. You should offer food to Sikhs and also to non-Sikhs, such as Brahmins, other castes and creed people, way-farers and pilgrims coming to holy places. To everyone offer food with respect and devotion.

(5) Fifth Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: Master, when a bridegroom leaves with a marriage party for the marriage ceremony, we shave him with razor to perform the ceremony. What should we do now?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: The clean-shaven Sahajdharis may use scissors for any such traditional ceremony, they wish to perform, but they should not use a razor. But the Kesadhari Sahajdharis should give Amrit Pahul (Khalsa baptism) to their sons before their marriage ceremony is performed.

(6) Sixth Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: True King! We Sahajdhari Sikhs generally take the bones and ashes of our dead to the Ganges. Now some Khalsa Sikhs say that we should not do so. What is your command on this issue Lord?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: If you can afford to reach the Ganges you can do so. We are not particular about it. Many of my brave and saintly Sikhs die in the battlefield. They are generally cremated there. For them the battlefield is as holy as the Kurukshetra. The suburb of a holy place like Amritsar, which is visited by saintly pilgrims, is equally good, where the remains of the dead are sanctified by the dust of holy men. The prayers of the pilgrims will bless the dead. The remains of the dead are placed at the feet of the Sadh Sangat: congregation of saintly persons.

(7) Seventh Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: We Sahajdhari Sikhs, True Lord, trim our beards according to Mughal style when some of us have to attend Mughal courts, or attend to clerical duties in Mughal service. What shall we do now?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: You, who are Sahajdhari Sikhs should now keep a full beard, just as the Khalsa Sikhs keep, but if there is official compulsion, you may comply with the orders of your rulers. But when you go to the Sadh Sangat (Congregation of the Sikh Temple) and wish to participate in their activities, offer Ardasa (Invocational Prayer) seeking forgiveness for this transgression.

(8) Eighth Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: True Lord, there are some Sahajdhari Sikhs who go on pilgrimage to Ganges, how should we deal with them when they come back?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: Deal with them with compassion, understanding and love. Do not cause any embarrassment to them.

(9) Ninth Question of Sahajdhari Sikhs: Master, you have commanded us not to have any social and cultural relations with five disowned and rejected religious groups viz: followers of Prithi Mal (Minas), Dhirmal, Ram Rai, Masands and Atheists (Jains who do not believe in God). Are we to avoid even casual meetings with them?

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: My blessed Sikhs, my command on this issue is that you should completely avoid the followers of these groups. If there is any disturbing supporter of these groups in your assembly, remove him from the assembly. The reason is that instead of joining the assembly in prayer and meditation they would talk and argue in such a way that they would destroy the faith and convictions of innocent people. They cause doubt, confusion and mischievously disturb the faith of innocent people. They talk and debate in such way, on the basis of false doctrines, false history in support of impostor gurus and saints, that many innocent people and sincere devotees are misled and hurt. The more they spread their false teachings, the more harm they do to those who happen to take them seriously. But if out of these followers of impostor Gurus and atheistic cults anyone repents and turns towards truth and the right path and expresses his willingness to follow Sikh ideals sincerely, he should be forgiven and accepted in the Brotherhood of Sikhs. The door should be kept open for the truly repentant. Enlighten such a one with the true doctrines of the Gurus. He must earn his own living by his own labours and never beg like mendicants, and lead a life of devotion. Your own heart should be pure and your faith should be strong. Casual meetings with them will not matter much.

(10) Tenth Question of the Sahajdhari Sikhs: When any member of our family died, we invited the Brahmin priests to read Garar Purana and the Gayatri mantra and perform other Hindu rites. Now the Brahmin priests refuse to come to our funeral services and perform these ceremonies. They insist that we should live like orthodox Hindus, wear sacred thread and observe all rites, which the Hindu Scriptures demand from their devotees. What is your command on this issue O King of kings? We shall obey it and in future carry out your instructions.

Guru Gobind Singh Answered: Be strong in your faith and conviction of Sikhs ideals. Give up all Brahmanical rites and perform the Sikh rites of reading the whole of Granth Sahib. After the reading ceremony is over, listen to the Interpretation (Katha) of Guru Arjan Dev’s Sahaskriti Slokas (67 verses in Prakritized Sanskrit) by a learned Sikh, who understands and can explain them.

Read also the first Soloka of Maru Raga. Prepare Karah Prasad and distribute it in the name of the dead after Invocational Prayer. The departed soul will be born as a Khalsa Sikh in his next birth and lead a saintly life for his ultimate redemption. You, the kith and kin, will also be blessed with peace, knowledge and enlightenment. There is nothing more precious in life than the Name of God, and sincere Faith and devotion of God. Contemplate the Name of God and share your surplus food and earnings with the needy. These are the Ten Commandments for the Sahajdharis.

“Guru Gobind Singh, King of Kings Signed and Authenticated the Document. This is a Copy of the Original Document.”