dalsingh101

6 hours ago, Premi said:

Btw, if I am dumb, then you are for bringing 'jatts' into every discussion and blame them for everything wrong in our community. It's probably personal grudge because the 'broad''s family didn't (of course, wrongly) allow a rishta.

You know all the points I'm making are true. And dude, it ain't that hard to get a rista in that community!!   Even my mix race young relatives are telling me there are plenty of them broads on dating sites looking for relationships. And their families aren't remotely concerned if they are marrying apnay or not. 

Bro, if you REALLY are this clueless, I apologise, but f**k me, I start thinking you're some mama infiltration intel gatherer or something......and them machoday have been on some of us for a good while. 

5 hours ago, Premi said:

Maybe we should kill off all the jatts who identify as Sikh

You know they say: Give an idiot enough rope, and they'll hang themselves. Other Sikhs don't need to do anything, just let you lot be you by the looks of it. It's just a shame the rest of us have to suffer from your bull5hit 'management' of the panth.  

You make me laugh, having f**ked literally every last thing up for your jaat bulls1t, you now want to play the Sikh brotherhood card as some last resort whilst most of you are still loyal to your nonSikh biraderi brothers who've raped and murdered Sikhs. 

Anyway, it's good you guys are getting stretched. Let you know what it is like to be independent men, instead of crawling up other people's arses to gain some advantage.   Now I know why you people are the archetype loyal, slave bhundu role models of colonialism. 

And how'd you get a job in medicine when it don't even look like you could pass a GCSE without support? Must be those docile characteristics they identified. 

You act so dumb and clueless, how is my antenna not going to go up? You don't fool me sneaky peasant. 

11 minutes ago, Premi said:

No I don't remember that, just the stories of W and E London Apney sleeping rough 

Many of the intermediary agents in Europe are Paks from what I have read which potentially makes it even worse

 

I thought this was mainly Albanians ? I thought e.g. Polish are more religious and are abhor that type of actions?

 

I didn't even know about this until recently , I just have been aware of it in UK, like that (I think) BBC documentary/news article a few years back and with that Apni Pimp in W London and this case you posted months ago

Btw, you have attacked 'West London' Sikhs for not defending their ends in the past, but stuff like this is ongoing now in the East...

 

Well, firstly, that is a manor they dominate in numbers. So they should have an easier job of it there. Our numbers are very small here, plus on top of the traditional vairhees we have new e. european ones. And it's not just albos; your assessment of polish as being more religious and thus les prone to do this is extremely childish. I don't know what happened in e.europe, but all of them have a normalised culture of prostitution going on. On top of this, the police take e.london Singhs as more of a serious threat and are on them more than the west lot. 

Plus, there is now a serious disconnect between apnay from what I can see. Previously, apnay mainly worked for and with apnay, but now a lot of desi juts actually work for tonday in construction, either as their workers or having them as clients.  Also, most of the types of businesses broads would end up trying to work in like waitresses or sales assistants etc. are owned by sullay, and this is an entry point to isolate and groom. 

It's more complicated than you think here, and we only have a tiny community, with the police trying to undermine us all the time (as you should know!) plus we have plenty of willing tools amongst our own that would sell us out and still deny there is a problem with targeted grooming and make us out to be the problem. You should also know this from how Barking Singh Sabha Gurdwara sold out and let the cops in, despite other Gurdwaras banning their recruitment drives.      

You should quit the dumbo act, it's getting tiring. 

10 hours ago, Veer said:

I think you mean moghulstan not that our people are behind in this stuff either. The new parliament building opened up in India yesterday and as soon as you walk in you see Akhand bharat 

What language is that on the map? Can you read it? @Veer

What are they calling Panjab region on it?

4 hours ago, Premi said:

Edited - FB LINK. to make it clearer, they mentioned young female students, I don't think male students (but who knows!). 

https://www.facebook.com/pbcukofficial/videos/pbcthe-1-show-live/165414736289860/

Do you remember a good few years ago some Sikh channel was showing a case of a bunch of homeless apnay (up north or midlands if I recall rightly) and one of them had a dastaar? 

When they interviewed that guy, he was blatantly saying don't send girls, as they get abused and trafficked even en route when going via 'donkey' and blokes can't do anything about it. How many times have we even seen accounts of broads being trafficked even before they get here. Like in that Oman case you posted. It's obvious some of the 'agents' back home are actually feeding broads to predators abroad.

How stupid are apnay anyway that they keep doing this.   Even in construction, the amount of pendus ripping off and exploiting other desi pendus is not small. Guys work for an apna for a few weeks and then get 'knocked' by the desi who gave them the 'job' - and then can't pay their rent and fall into depression. And I have to say (as much as people don't want to hear the truth), it's juts doing this mainly, and talking to my grandfather decades ago, he told me that this is a long standing cultural norm of theirs back home - and it looks like they've spread their gundh here as well.   

PS - I wasn't suggesting that apnay are selling their bhunds now btw, just mentioning how open and prolific the flesh trade is. On top of sullay, we also have e.europeans with long standing cultures of pimping active, and remember this stuff always goes hand in hand with drug selling. Plus we all know how 'concerned' the police are about these things, especially when they involve apneean. 

1 hour ago, Premi said:

Another show last night (not yet on YouTube) which j just saw briefly for a couple mins , this time I saw they discussed vulnerable Sikh Panjabi students from India having financial issues and turning to flesh trade; they mentioned Ilford . 

Will check later and upload link

Not surprised in one way. I know certain sections of Ilford have become almost open red light districts. It's been a good few years but when I last went down Ilford Lane to get to a job I was shocked at seeing how there were even afghan looking young 'rent boys' about. People have told me that hoes are openly plying their trade and pimps in the area have 3/4 girls in their 'stables'.   

Again though, apnay from back home don't like to listen and live in some parallel world. There is a cost of living crisis, costs here are phenomenal, even some people from here are finding it difficult to find steady work, racism is on the increase, but they still come here in droves, with limited skills sets. 

@Premi

Bro, what's the work by Tan Tai Yong that's referenced above?? 

EDIT: No worries, I think it's this - 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garrison-State-Military-Government-1849-1947/dp/0761933360/ref=sr_1_1?crid=E3IU0IFXXTSR&keywords=garrison+state+punjab+tan&qid=1685313188&sprefix=garrison+state+punjab+tan%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-1

3 minutes ago, Veer said:

The last I heard was the same guy from kashmir files Vivek Ranjan. 

Are these documentaries?

12 minutes ago, Veer said:

No, lol

Focus on the 84 riots, drugs and conversions. Based on unreleased classified government documents 

The who, what and where- follow the money trail 

Who's directing it? 

15 minutes ago, Veer said:

followed by Punjab Files 

Will there be lots of bhangra and drinking? lol

No, seriously, what will it be about? 

23 hours ago, Premi said:

Martial race and jatt divisions promoted by British 

One of the strange aspects of these brit 'racial theories' in relation to our own, is how some of our lot lap up the back handed siftaan of 'stalwart' brave etc. from them, but totally turn a blind eye to the full 'conceptualisation' which also state that they consider these 'martial races' especially docile and unintelligent and naturally inclined to take orders like lemmings. 

I wonder if the yanks have got their tentacles in stani-land, in this way?

On 5/25/2023 at 7:06 PM, Sajjan_Thug said:

Dass, is talking in a very particular narrow context.  When our sant/babas are talking about other faiths they seem to think everyone believes the same thing.  Not knowing that Abrahamic religions are exclusive, in that they believe only there religion is true and other religions lead to hell.  Our sant/babas ignore the fact that other religions see us as going to hell.  Then why are they saying we all believe the same thing.

Dass, would like to know why they are saying this.

The I'd say certain people are relying on 'modren' sant babay  too much and not using their brains to khoj their heritage when this is so much easier than it's ever been in the past due to technology and access to literature/manuscripts and other khojees.   

On 5/25/2023 at 7:05 PM, Sajjan_Thug said:

Progress will be slow at a individual level.  The sampradays collectively can make a big difference.  

100% agree.  The sewa society videos you posted, where people see with there own eyes what is happening is changing peoples mind for the better.  You can see how impacted people are when they see with own eyes.

I think ground level upwards is infinitely more powerful than 'top down' with apnay. I know what apnay are like, they'd go to a Gurdwara, sit for 2 hours 'listening' to the parcharak and then leave and think and act exactly like they did before.  

bump - to remind myself of the recipes

I'm going to try and evaluate my previous post in light of my current understanding:

On 1/31/2011 at 7:58 PM, dalsingh101 said:

This war or strife wont last last forever. Eventually the sullay Panjabis and Pathan types will probably patch things up, even if that means the Pathans will have to be paid off. You can deal with them two ways it seems, the Avitibile route or paying them off. Western involvement in the region means that they can't go the 'brutal suppression' route, at least not blatantly.

 At this moment in time, it seems as if musalmaan pathaan and musalmaan punjabi relations are at an all time low. I've heard the pathaan's think their panjabi co-religionists are manipulative and greedy. But you never know with religious fervour, this could change rapidly with the emergence of a projected common 'enemy' which may well be india? If china and india go at it, opportunists (i.e. mercenaries) from afghan and paks may join the fray on china's side. 

Quote

The amount of money being pumped in P'stan right now is huge, some people liken it to a 'blank cheque'. Sure, the majority of it is getting pilfered but that still leaves a lot of power in some people's hands. If the nature of the Pakistani community is reflected in their diasporic communities in the Uk, I would say they have infinitely more capacity to close ranks and produce patriots (both religious and nationalistic) than Indians. Plus they do have a lot of guys who aren't afraid to fight, even for dumb shit. Their politicking too seems to be able to influence other nations through some seriously sly two-faced diplomacy, as well via the ISI. Remember these are the guys who propped up the Taliban in the first place. They also had a hand in supplying Khalistanis too apparently.

At this moment in time, it appears as if the fabric of their community is being seriously tested. They do have allies though like brits, and china, and maybe some other sullay mideast nations? 

Quote

So I don't think the cards have fallen enough to read into the future with them. Here in the west they do the standard media promotion of the liberals there, but I doubt that this reflects common everyday thinking there. If Pakistan crumbles, it will be trouble for everyone given the nuclear capability. It will also effect the new developing 'golden egg laying goose' of the west - India. I think these things alone will motivate the west to do everything it can to try and prevent a destabilised situation. Last thing they need is Taliban running free in Afghani and Paki - stan even more than they do now.

Right now it looks like the west have completely failed against the taliban and the taliban have also turned on paks.   

I was right that we couldn't predict the future, and at the time of writing the above, the rapid decline of the west wasn't so apparent. 

On 5/25/2023 at 7:17 PM, Sajjan_Thug said:

Could there also be a colonized layer 

With centuries of west colonizing India could it also be the punjabi population is imitating there colonizers.

They want to follow there religion, speak  there language, adopt there lifestyle, imitate there customs and mannerism.

There is hugh craze of punjabis trying to imitate the western world.  Could this be the trauma of colonialism.

Could this be that 'blindness' I spoke of earlier, and a failure by certain subgroups to confront ugly home truths? I think this is quite true. People generally love their Sikh heritage, but when others oppress, isolate and attack subgroups - they will naturally seek a 'safe space' for themselves. I think tarkhans were the first to do this, so I understand the dynamic. Thankfully for tarkhans their inherited skillset and transferable skills enabled them to move from a jut dominated economy and create their own space in the panth. Other groups may not have these options.   

3 hours ago, Premi said:

During the trial, she was found to have delivered a kilo of cocaine on 13 June 2020, she was arrested three days later and was in possession of a bag containing £50,000 in cash. 

Okay, is this more of a current price on a kilo? lol

On 1/31/2011 at 7:27 PM, dalsingh101 said:

KDS

 

Your point is weak. You should see it as they've got both their own piece of land as well as a strong representation in India. Watch how their power will grow in future in a democratic setup where numbers and mobilisation mean everything.

Bump this point 12 years later. I's say it's coming true more for India than Pak right now.  

7 hours ago, Veer said:

 

Nice to see some Hindus taking some of the slack for a change. Normally it's been on Sikh shoulders even though you lot outnumber us like thousands and thousands to one. lol  

8 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Odd timing with nazis running everything. Like how he gonna hate biden who's a white nazi supporting white nazis? 

Clearly some sort of weird pr. 

Yeah, and we have a similar attempt to drive into 10 Downing Street here on the same or another very close day??

40 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

He got paid. That makes zero sense. 

Even getting paid makes zero sense? 

Was he a scared, intimidated he-b1tch who was compelled into it? 

Quote

Collis and Kothiria were arrested in March 2021. Khan had been arrested earlier, in December 2020.

I'd guess Khan grassed up. Let's see what sentences they get.  

3 years ago in lockdown, a kilo of coke cost £40,000.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/coronavirus-uk-cocaine-price-rises-drug-dealers-a4406626.html

This has probably gone up since then. But let's keep this price. So the 35.5 kgs would cost:

£1420000 

£1.5 mill..........

Check out the networks:

Wolves, B'ham, E.London, Ireland, Holland.