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What has this got to do with justifying actions of Rojana?

You are indirectly if you do not bring into perspective the atrocities committed by CM beant singh and his gang of terrorists. You are assuming now. Why do you assume, if you are against Khalasthan then you are Pro Benat Singh. Everything is not black and white. No I am not in support of terrorists or terrorism and neither is any other Sikh in my opinion. Ok, let’s take this statement above. The bomber who killed Benat Singh and 17 others. Were the other 17 part of the plan? The Air India bombing, 331 killed, some of the victims were not even Indian, was this not a terrorist act? Your own views of CM beant singh, kps gill, kuldip brar, etc. What do you think about them and their actions. I made myself very clear; I don’t really give any thought on Beant Singh and other cronies. Regarding Kuldip Brar, he was following strict orders to take out a terrorist. I still condemn the killing of the innocents. The government members who were in power during this period should be investigated and pay for their crimes but equally all the Khalasthanis who were involved should also pay for their crimes e.g. Rojana. Rajoana is not a terrorist because he was fighting injustice. So, fighting injustice, gives you the right to kill innocents? Even if Rojana didn’t carry out the bombing, his intentions were very clear to do so. Wrong. Where did you get this? The suicide bomber who killed Beant Singh killed additional 17 people. So, are you saying Rojona had no idea, if he had to act as the human bomb; he would not be harming anyone else? That’s truly daft, either Rojana is truly gullible or his intentions were that there will be collateral but it’s ok, it’s for a just cause.

Per you statements you seem to be justifying the "other side" of Rajoana - CM Beant Singh and gang. So you think he was "dharmee"? I'm not justifying anyone, did I mention anywhere the justification of CM Beant Singh and gang? But, you seem to be in full support of a terrorist and then you are contradicting yourself by saying "No it is not simply because Sikhs oppose terrorism and have never sided with anyone supporting terrorist/jihadhist menatlity.." You need to read through both sides to come up with your views. Maybe you are not ready or do not want to face the truth. What views are those? That Rojana's actions were completely justified because he wanted to kill a politician. Rojana wanted to be a human bomb, he had full intentions of taking innocents with him. I don't give any thought to Beant Singh and his cronies but 17 others who got killed, how do you justify that?

Mate, the guy is a terrorist. The lead bomber killed 17 others, who were innocent. How do you justify this? Do you think the family member of the victims see him in the same light as "majority of Sikhs"? It's funny how you condemn Islamic extremist but see Rojana and the clan as some sort of martyrs. Cold blooded killers, the guy should be executed.

That's the same answer you get from other extremist groups. To justify their actions. Rojana, who was the back up suicide bomber, would have killed innocents. By what you have said, this is wrong in the Sikh Dharam. The air india bombing and the whole Panjab turmoil was/is created by india to "produce" fake fascists "Sikhs" who would rather believe that India is their "caretaker". My friend, you are deluded and paranoid. Everything seems to be the fault of India and Khalistanis are squeaky clean. In the report provided by Sher, Sikh Khalistanis are parading a terrorist as a martyr and also did he not take innocents in his act?

Well said Veeray, this was my point I made regrading, "why is there so much hatred?" If people are full of hatred already, what are we going to teach our younger generation.

Are Tharkhans not Sikhs? Jaats are the only people who achieved more in name of the SIkh Dharam? Mate, British new how to attract Jaats, your attraction for money and power. I do agree, SGPC was created by Jaats, for one reason power and money. For every KPS Gill or General Brar there were thousands of young Jats who fought back against the oppressive government. What happened there? Young Jats fighting, what did they achieve? Became drug addicts and alcoholics. Sikhs of all background apart from tarkhans fought for the independence movement. Where did you get this from," Jat's History of Punjab Vol 1" Paan Choodyo, twadi haal ta lalchi kootya tho wi mari ya.

What is the difference between Islamic extremist suicide bomber and this Rojana bloke? So you guys are also glorifying the bombing of Air India flight. How is that different to bombing of Pan am flight 103 or even 9/11. So if extremists Sikhs are allowed to do it, it's ok?

What evidence have you supported your opinion with? It's simple, currently it stands as your opinion and nothing else.

Back it up sunshine, why is he wrong? By just saying "wrong" doest change things.

The poster "Seebass" is Bhadur Singh, who now goes by the name of Bhadur Shah.

JungChamkaur - Fantastic post.

LOL !!! This stuff is classic. Spot on.

amar_jkp Here we go again, justifying a defeat. Just proves my point. Rather be a bahmin than a Kahliban fuudu fundamentalist scum.

What this "we" will not change our religion philosophy to win converts, that’s exactly what you and your gang of fuudu fundamentalist scum have done. Khalibans have destroyed everything the Sikh Dhram stood for, you guys waving your flags of made-up glories and even defeats are symbolised as some sort of honour. Instead of learning from the defeats, abundant time is spent trying to justify them. What a poor bunch. Promoting terrorists to a saint status. In a way it's good, no converts, slowly you will all die out.

Veer, I apologise for the misunderstanding here, I 100% agree with your approach with kids. The approach needs patience and love without this we will truly loose the next generation or they will become fundamentalists. I have seen many kids introduction to the Sikh Dahram and times the focus is on 1984 and the great wars. Never have I seen elders explain about the journey of the spirit. Why, so much hate and anger being taught? Why at Vaskhi speeches are made for our hatred of Hindus? I see our Daharm heading in a dark place.

Veer, I agree with your approach and let the kids decide their own path. I aplogise if I have misunderstood anything.

Pai Shaib, I can't see anything about blind faith, going against logic(which is part of illusion),... and enforcing miracles ! Have I miss understood this: People of younger generations seek intelctual satisfaction, as time moves forward, children of each generation is moving more into intelctual levels, means they do not want blind faith. and this: So while being in this world, we have to keep a balance, between swarth and parmarth, and explain the truths to the youngsters in a simple and a natural way, without scaring them, or trying to impose on them, because that will make them rebels, and create adverse feelings for the path. So we should talk to them as friends, because that is how they are used to, and then give them space to digest and assimilate the truths of the Bani, slowly but gradually. ????? So you are trying to explain about a world, which you and I haven’t seen? What truth are we trying to explain to the youngsters and without scaring them at the same time?

I completely disagree with your post. You would like the younger generations to follow blind faith. Instead of explaining with logic, you would prefer them to accept miracles? So you prefer the youngsters to believe Baba Deep Singh fought without his head? WOW!!! Sikh Dharam's entrance to the 21st century.

I would agree with you but knowing these lot (ISIS) they probably sneak out with the other civilians.

Punjabi language, great language but sadly the last greatest writer of Punjabi literature was Shiv Kumar Batalvi, in my opinion.