Aman Singh

We don't need to discuse anymore about her . Just a request to all, plz don't let this happen again anywhere. You all are blessed with sikhims and plz try to help the girls and guys around u , so it won't happen again with any other person. We should forget our mistakes but not what we have learned. Just do one thing more, aware everyone around u about this prolbem , specially in uk. Mail all your friend and tell them what happened with her and also tell them about this site. which will keep them connected with sikh issues. At least they will get good company here. God Bless U all.

Once there was hukamnama was issued from Akal Thakat Sahib in 1984, which required all the sikh temple to have amritdhari savadar only. I think either we don't know about it, or forget it, or don't wanna obey Akal Thakat Sahib. We are not true sikhs, we are just taking a advatage of being sikh. what a shame.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just don't give up your culture. wearing western dresses mean giving up our culture and tradition. Here is "Chunni" trying to say some thing. "CHUUNI IN PAIN" Meri ijat noo ina lutya, teh sharayam badnam kita, main bandhi rahi jina di ijat, una meri ijat noo he neelam kita. Manu dil cho kadh ke pare sitya kisay hor noo hai dha dita, Mein gaaray noo ke dosh deva, Mera apnaya ney na saath dita. Mein jis barey di ronak bani, Una meri hee ronak noo muka dita. Eh kasy hawa hai aiii, Ke ina kuria, Meri pehchan noo muka dita.

The problem is election. We need to stop voting system, and bring up slective system.and only Amritdhari person .How we do that. ?????

K4ur ji thanks for u r information, its lot more then it thought. it seems like thing will get more worst for the next generation. Religious is the only way to stop doing the wrong things. but as i heard , there are so many gurudwaras and they are under the certain caste. which mean they pay more attention to their caste rather then sikhism. This is too bad. ok k4ur ji, have u ever thought about how to stop girls doing the bad things. is there anyone helping to stop this kind of problems. some one must stop doing all this other wise girls will be living in hell for the rest of their life. Tell me something about parents there. do they know all this stuff. and what age group of girls is into bad things. and do u know how many so far become a victim ?? How about sikh guys, are they any good. or they are just same as paki guys. i have lot more question to ask but not now. i will appriciate your information. thanks. Rab Rakha.

Hey k4ur, U seems very touched with this story, could u be little more open with what else is happening there in UK. I am in USA, i heard about this kind of stuff about year ago. After reading this mail, its made me mad. and i still can't come up with the conclusion that who's fault is that. some ppl said here, its our kismat. some said, its our parents who don't teach about sikhism. and lot more.......... May i remind u all ppl, its not about sikhims, kismat , parents or any culture. Its about human kind. Its about some thing happening wrong with girls. If it were any other girl , i was going to feel the same as i am feeling for her. Don't think about that girl , what she did. I think we need to think about those guys who are doing this kind of stuff. Any good girl can fall for them, (as i know they have organisations, they are trained do this,they have money, they have power, there aim is to dishonou other religion}.. I think K4ur know more about this. Please can u tell me what is going on there , since u mention """what is hapnin dwn places like Bricker lane, deep end of Soho Rd and not to mention wot is goind dwn in the smaller streets!!!!!!! """". can u be little more open. plz i wanna know more. Rab Rakha.

Good one shere khalsa da ji..................

Hey ppl, this is very serious things if this is right. I have heard the same thing that muslim in UK are doing on this purpose. I have also read this some where muslim guy in uk target sikh girls and spend money on them , make them friends and then the lot of dirty stuff. There main aim is to convert sikhs girls into muslim. and distroy their honour. Hey ppl, don't take this easy ,,, this seems very serious. Well, it is happening so far in uk only. I don't know what is the solution to this. if this happen here i would kill this mother fuker... (sorry) ...this made me mad... Hey ppl this topic needed to be discuss more...... plz say something..... Rab Rakha. ------------------------------------------------------------------- moderator note: Cool down and please discuss it intelligently. Thanks!

Hey rk ji, i know what are u saying. i even know u don't get beauty by pluking or cutting the hair. so tell me one thing, why these girl pluck their hair, what is the reason to do that. i was trying to give out the reason why ppl pluck their eye brow. i know u don't get beauty by doing all this stupid act. u might have miss understood what i meant to say. Rab rakha.

Hey PPl, Cutting hair mean, we don't like our hair. when we cut our hair. we are not sikh. Is that right ??? when we change our religion , we are not sikh. so which his more worst , to cut hair or to change our religion???? This both is against sikhism??? What is the difference ??

Hey PPl, First of all its a shame. its not her fault , its her parents who didn't taught her about sikhism. aslo its a fault of our religious leader who don't pay attention to this kind of things. its just not this, i have heard, in punjab , some poor sikhs becomes christian. cuz christian preacher goes to the poor areas and help poor ppl there and then slowely and study convert them into christanity. So who's fault is this. who need to preach sikhism???. why we are ignoring poor sikhs?? what do they do with the money ppl donate to all big gurudwaras?? where does this money go??? Can't they help poor sikh with that money also can't the preach more and more where its needed to done. She made us think that, we have to be carefull now on. What ever , i am feeling bad about this. Rab Rakha.

I dont' think anything wrong about chatpat food at gurudwara. U dont' like it u dont' eat it. we should not be thinking about what we are getting to eat there. just eat and leave. Gurudwara is not about to eat,its about to prayer. just pay your attention more to prayer and god, rathen then food. Rab Rakha.

Hey jsb ji, U get lot of reply to your question. well i wanna say somthing too if u don't mind. i know u can't get that job even if u try your best. and its all cuz of hair. Just for the next time, don't think of getting job at any american restaurant... or any other place which is related with your hair. well, sikh have died for thir hairs. and your problem is not that big. don't worry buddy... get some other job. Rab Rakha.

Hey ppl, When u are passing by gurudwara then u can go to gurudwarain any dress , in this sitution dress doesn't matter. I was just saying, when attending special function then u must wear normal dress. This is all i saying. Rab Rakha.

Hey people, The main problem is to select a committe in gurudwara. and these ppl fight with each other to become a member of gurudwara. Mostly they have election and when ever is their election they fight. Why don't this ppl understand, "The one Who run the whole world, why we are trying to run him" If Guru Granth Sahib JI is our guru, then why we need a human person to run the gurudwara. Is it all about money??? or just to have a "shorat" ?? I wanna tell u all this true story happened at one gurudwar in usa. There are two group here. The present committe called an open meeting, and both group showed up. Some how they begin arguing with each other, and fighting in front of Guru Granth Sahib JI, inside the Gurudwara Hall. Even though they said bad words to each other, some fight physicallly. Then the police showed up and the handle the situation. Then this ppl were blaming on police that they entered inside the hall wearing shoes. How come this ppl don't understand what the hell they were doning there. who made the police to enter in gurudwara. look ppl, can be call them sikh. i mean , i can write a lot more.. but no use. cuz this kind of ppl needed to be stop doing bad thing at gurudwara. this is why i wanna know, do u have any idea to remove this kind of ppl from our gurudwaras. plz do reply. thanks Rab rakha

Hey PPL, Mr. Singh.. i meant by only one god, i was wrong. actually i meant by "Where was God". Sorry for that. So can anyone tell me in brief what is karma??. Can it be changed?? Rab Rakha.

Hey ppl, When we go to party, we dressed up our best. when we play some game then we dressed up the way of sports. when we go to work we dressed up the way are required there. So why we dont' care about gurudwara. Why can't we dressed up as it required there. Wearing jean and going to gurudwara is not wrong. But when there is sangat then jean are wrong, (I meant for females). Well, i should not say it wrong, cuz like khalsa ji said,"it does not matter as long we look respectable". But i just want to say, go with the flow. Just keep in mind one thing, if we can't wear jeans or casual to parties, then why at gurudwara????? Rab rakha.

Hey A Kaur ji, Good Question. I think a female can answer better then male. anyway.. let me try ..no one should not have any problem as long as u are covering your self from neck to feet. it could be any dress but not tight. and in gurudwara... that person shouldn't have asked u like that.. "you should have asked him back.. Are u here to pray or to look on other peoples dress???" well i don't think if there is any thing wrong with pajam style salwar. Wearing jeans in gurudwara is totally wrong. So don't mind that guy?? Just a suggestion, Next time wear a normal kind of suit, so no one can point at you for nothing. ok. Rab Rakha.

Hey people, When shotay sahibjaday were martyer... where were god then?? didn't he see those two kids were dying , and how come God didn't help them to save thier life. Also , thousands of ppl dying with starvation every year. why don't God help those People. In punjab, thousands of young sikhs were killed by the police. why dont' got punish those responisble people. they are living well life and those who died, thier family is living in poverty and fear. why don't god see all this. when is God going to help all this people. Any Answer?? Hey God, if u some how read this .. then please ..if would like to hear it from u?? Sorry if i have said any thing wrong...........

Hey A Kaur Ji, Don't u forgetting some thing while taking about revenge?? I mean forgive ness.!!!!!!!! Don't u think some time some ppl forgive each other. and i think its not possible to take revenge all the time... u can take revenge only if u have power. not every one take revenge. some time we have to live under fear. And there is one thing more and that is GODS RULE. God punish u too if u do something wrong. Well, in my last word... u dont' take birth again to take revenge. if u wanna take revenge just do it now. u never get a second chance. When u are taking revenge .. u are not doing soemthing wrong. its something u return back. well, i hope u understand what i am trying to say. .Rab rakha.

Hey ppl.. As long as u don't have proof don't raise that issue. If our guru ji had two wife's (just a view, ) then its ok too. cuz be believe that our gurus never done anything wrong. they must be having good reason to have second wife. In my views, today sikhs dont' suppose to keep two wifes. this will be injustice for both of wife's. Cuz u can't love equal with both. also this will bring problem in your life. as we can see in our culture if a married man or women look upon other sex , how the husband and wife react to that. lets put it other way, how about if a woman have two husband?? Think about this, is it possible?? Just apply the same rule over man too. You will get your answer??? Sorry if i am wrong ??? rab rakha.

Hey N30 ji, Thanks for your view, its really good. as u said before we take all this step we need to remove all non-sikhs form our gurudwaras. but how we going to do that. its not easy as it seems. if u take a example of " i don't wanna name of gurudware" here all committe member are .. with no hair and turbans except one. the only thing is that they all are rich and by using their money power the become a member of gurudwaras. they are just doing to get a "shorat" and becoming famous in sikh community. and every two years they have election and they fight and abuse each other. Gurudwara is a place to pray, and look what it has become. Instead of talking about god or sikhism , this ppl talk about how to win the election and other stuff which is not relation with gurudwara or our religion. Its not only this gurudwara here, i believe that it happen every where in the world , whre ever is sikh temples. Well , thanks for yoru view again. keep writing.. rab rakha.

Hey uk girl U are totally right.. that prayer is wrong.. i mean totally useless.. priest are doing this to make money and ppl are thinking that they are doing good deeds. Actually , nothing is happening here. Its just a business as u said. i know u don't like that and also want to stop that. but there is nothing can be done, as long as priest don't stop it by them self. and they won't stop and if they stop.. they can't make money?? So its all about money... if u really wanna stop this.. then pay those priest big amount of money .. believe me..they will stop!!!!!!! This is what i wanna say to u.... god is watching all this... let the things happening as it happen... only u and me just not know this .. God knows this too ... so why we should afraid if God is here?? Hey (sorry dont' know your name) just don't join those ppl...ok .. rab rakha.

Hey simi, its very simple.. plucking hair mean looking more beautiful... am i right?? but sikh believes that .. "they like their self as it was created by God". Either they look good or not. For a sikh , he or she is not allow to pluk or cut hair from any part of the body.... its very simple again... ppl who cut or pluck hair are not consider to be sikh. now its up to the person... cut or not. wanna be sikh or beautiful??? YOU DECIDE.

Hey people...we all know fighting in gurudwaras is very common ... i just need your views how to end this fight forever in our religious places.