Nihal_Kaur

Gill, please verify how this is so. Umm, however, Bhagat Kabir Ji a muslim reached Vaheguru, and his writings are in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and Bhagat Namdev Ji was hindu I think, and he also reached vaheguru. The point is, they rejected fake worship. Worship from the heart is what matters.

My own ignorance

well pheena, I'm sure all religions considered themselves to be religions of truth. :roll:

Hari can you recommend anything as an alternative to flash but does the same job? thanks

marriage isn't such a scary thought if the person first becomes your friend. :roll:

Be patient! the pictures are worth it. :roll:

JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION www.shastarvidiya.org site has been updated to include amongst numerous others topics of Great Sikh women Women and Keski Mahaparshad Definately worth checking it out. Happy new year folks. :mrgreen: what y'all think of it??? discuss. 8)

Huh?!

actually i made a run for it after seing the pics in "rape of nanking". forget it, the site is not for me!!!! Truly shows the dark side of humankind. :evil: :evil:

lolololol I stumbled accross this page while helping my little sis to do her homework. It was about historical events/people/things that were truly rotten. but i've thus decided its best not to show the link. Its gross. sorreeee

Basically to me, the word GUR is referring to God or the personification of him/her. So we're being told that Vaheguru is all the deities, Demi Gods, etc and none is without Vaheguru. I can't quite put into words what I think, though it is clear in my mind. i.e ek onkar satgur parshad to me is saying that only with the grace of Vaheguru (ie HIS/HER parshad) can you.... So GUR and GURU get confused sometimes I think. To explain .... " Sabh thi vadha satgur, nanak, jin kal rakhee miree" the comma's mean that the light of guru nanak is saying the true GURU is vaheguru who will also look after him also. I have seen in many places something else written. Although this is just my perception and will probably change tomorrow. Also i think its a damn shame we don't have schools to learn this vidiya. Meanings, correct recitals etc.

*shakes head resignedly and tuts*

Kamalla rose kaur seems to want the rehit maryada to be translated in a way "correct" for her because she wants people to percieve it the way she does. or perhaps she just wants a bit of thought put into translations. 8) your thought about changing the term "sacred pudding" is one I agree with, even though that is what it is. Although in india it is usually a starter/delicacy not a pudding! :shock: However, one thing I MUST say is that basically, the english language is too rigid and unyielding, it would be impossible to translate things properly the way you or I want to see them and especially Gurbani. :?

sikhnie how long did it take you to do this??? :shock: :shock: The khanda can also be: The double edged sword in the middle. Can you do one of that too?

WELL, he had an alternative untortuous way of doing colonic irrigation too! you take 2 teaspoons of some liquid that makes you poo for 2 days. Its meant to clear out your insides alot easier than stuffing kupra down you every day. But hey! each to their own. I got my own version of this. Just eat wholemeal toast.

Neo, I was given this article to read just before you posted it, and yeh it was something quite amazing (cause of the 999 people will go mad bit) The only thing is, being a blabbermouth, whatever I learn I share it with those around me and uncle ji from Kenya said: "another good way to clean up your nasal passages is to get a bit of warm slightly salted water in a watering jug. Then (while in bath otherwise messy) tilt your head up and pour that into your nostril (tilt head back) on one side, the water will come out of the other, he said do this for a little while then do it to the other nostril. Actually, he said, this way it is said you never ever get a blocked nose, if you do this once." I was typically like..eeeeewwwwwwwww and my response amused him, but he's a source of knowledge on how to clean out the body in less harmful/torturous ways than the hatha yogis do. ermm....bit off topic I guess.

Ahem. not *cough* qualified. :wink:

i wanna read what dynamic_bunda wrote!

thats beautiful. reminds me of a bit of gurbani: sargun nirgun nirankaar sun samadhee aap aapan keea nanaka api hee fir jaap :pray: do not ask me to transate!

whats wrong with her/his hairs joyce?

shasterkovich. i didn't say i would batter u for no apparent reason. I don't attack people. Or fight for no reason. In fact I don't fight at all. I reserve the right to act in self defence when needed.

ok, shasterkovich, to the uncultered likes of me, the carrot and stick figure of speech is not known. You said lovingly guided, what would you do if a girl refuses to comply and does her own thing instead? i.e does what she thinks is best and not what you think is best? This is just a scenario.

lol. eat it. shasterkovich, i have not threatened YOU in any way. Surely you're not the stick wielding hitting woman type of guy. i've been talking of the rights for women to be free and live their life the way they want without the use of carrots or sticks. Or gentle persuasion. or lovingly but firmly guided by men with carrots and sticks. If you meant something else you could have easily said it, instead you wrote " I would say with absolute assurance that the sheer physical power of a man with a stick is such that you could not turn the tables on them and beat them silly. Besides, I've been fighting all my life, against various enemies, and I'm not an average man when it comes to fighting. " that leaves me in no doubt that YOU also agreed with the terminology.

shasterkovich, whatever gave you the idea I learn from anybody? I never told you. I have urged girls to learn self defence, and that is not an indication that i have learnt myself. However whether or not I have learnt self defence, I would show the same attitude towards anyone trying to use a stick on me or my sisters. and I would do EVERYTHING in my power to ENSURE that they get as good as they give. Only bullies pick on girls. :evil: :evil: And no one assumes they can fight like NNS, he is too good.

Shasterkovich, there is a trait amonst many indian men that I have come accross. That is the need to control others stemming from poor self esteem, a feeling of worthlessness and paranoia about being made to look silly. This notion that a girl can bring shame on a family is slowly becoming extinct now (and thank god) because people are becoming educated and their own masters. Love is encompassing (and overruling) the notion that a daughter in any way is a reflection on the mother and father. Maybe in previous times when parents had no other way of showing their respectibility a girls actions were very much hampered, nowadays, parents are perfectly capable of creating and sustaining their own self respect within society unattached to the actions of their children. And furthermore if you would use a stick to "persuade" me I would batter you silly. Another gift from my wonderful father and Guru. It is not that the Punjabi men have lost the power to do what you say, more that they are realising that girls have as much a mind as men, and are in this society equally (sometimes better) able to sustain themselves and their families. Roles and situations are changing. I can see why someone who can't get an asian date is angry at those that can. I can also see why the girls are running a mile with outdated, sexist comments like these. Girls are human beings, not things to control. :evil: :evil: