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  1. Read more here: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Islamic_Silliness#Food_glorifies_Allah_while_being_eaten "Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The people asked the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything." So you know there is no such thing as water contamination and no need for filter from that.
  2. Where do the vedas actually come from who really wrote them? They say they are from Brahma in India however there is more dispute amongst scholars of the west who studied these phenomen and the links between ancient paganism around the world and hinduism. The vedas are giving birth to all philosophies we find historically expansiveness- http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/handle/10603/2039 http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/2039/7/07_abstract.pdf http://www.gauranga.org/vedic.htm
  3. I kinda of agree with the first guy, it is hard to feel sorry for him, there are people in our community in much worse positions, even some of us have to struggle much more to make ends meat even on other factors such as social factors with our own peers rather then financial some of the satisfaction of earning is removed from social angles. World crisis is everywhere, punjab is pretty much dead now- nothing is left we lost our land what is was is now occupied by the same evil hindus and muslims which were around in guru nanaks time it seems we achieved nothing in our religion much. Even after preaching and doing things against the corruption, the corruption won. We can only reflect and say what golden periods came were nice and hopefully someone somewhere will draw inspiration and try and bring heaven to earth through that. We can only try and impove ourselves and family and one day gain the status we had in the past. They are humans and have to do what it takes to survive. As for the compassion the west shows, Islam has probably killed it totally. For those who got the compassion perhaps it is there duty to help out, for all those who migrated there generations have become selfish people who can not co-operate to run bigger projects and for those gems who do something they get condemned and hated and are not appreciated or praised in our communities while the selfish are who take over our political circles. Cherish the few you have around you and do everything you can in your power to be "THE BEST" world class in everything you are and do. Make yourself known throughout the world so maybe one day you can do something. Guess what other people are aiming that high, why can't we get there.
  4. In the year 2000 many religions were booming really high, it makes you wonder fundamentalism rose or was the later fundametentalist events which took place conspiracies inside jobs to make the religions go down so as to keep governments in power? Is discrimination booming with harrasment and assault to sikhs even institionalised racism in airports such as in europe which gets brushed under the carpet with media show casing so many plots which give open doors to racism as was the norm in the past with jews and blacks. Where the popularity was in the times of sant jarnail singh bhindrawale taking from alama iqbal's works he quotes such: Indian Disciple- "thy thoughts has enlightened the east and west; What causes the downfall of the nations?" Rumi - "Downfall has always been a fate of those; who refuses to safeguard their identity" "God has not disgraced a nation, Till it is rescued by a saintly soul"- Rumi To be the slave of a man with an illumined heart, Is better than to rule the ruler's of the land. - Rumi Please find the datasets zoomed more into 1800-2008 looking at english(1million) datasets. Which comes in the bhindranwale 84 era which was near a creation of a state after which it declined. Even in the humility of bhindranwale sant who would do so much sewa he washed kachera of singhs, did langar sewa, did reading and teaching guru maharaj and pothis. Which shows Bhindranwales importance in relation to Maharaja Ranjit Singh's so something interms of sikh raj was going well to fall however maintaining that course on a longer period is questionable. To produce a raj like Guru Arjan Dev ji had which went to Guru Hargobind Sahib from nothing to an empire is difficult to construct. So it is encouraged more and more people from here write a book, if anyone is reading this thinking of writing a book on sikhi sikhism sikh do so. http://oreilly.com/oreilly/author/index.html http://www.penguinbooks.co.za/publishing/publishing.php http://viney.com/free-ebook-self-publishing-guide/
  5. of even more important events such as even like these shown in these videos:
  6. Well google have conducted an experiment in last 4 years, where they have scanned and digitised massive amounts of literature trying to scan all books from western English sources in which they created a computer program called ngrams which measured how popular a word is in a book in which you can see the cultural impact it has on something. You can access it here http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/ More on this experiment in the video below In addition please see this image in which I have shown what are the popular periods of sikh (sikhism) for which it captures certain time events. What is intresting is around the same time the same things are happening with other religions in some regions so social-economic reasoning behind them as well. Please have a look and comment on the trends we find and how we can predict futures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh_diaspora
  7. ek mai jugat viah tin chella parvan ik sansari, ik bhandari, ik la devan (one mother, married to the world, 3 disciples present, 1 worldly, {referring to brahma, vishnu, shiva hindu trinity})... aad aneel anaad anaahat jug jug ayko vays. ||29|| The Primal One, the Pure Light, without beginning, without end. Throughout all the ages, He is One and the Same. ||29|| aykaa maa-ee jugat vi-aa-ee tin chaylay parvaan. The One Divine Mother conceived and gave birth to the three deities. ik sansaaree ik bhandaaree ik laa-ay deebaan. One, the Creator of the World; One, the Sustainer; and One, the Destroyer. jiv tis bhaavai tivai chalaavai jiv hovai furmaan. He makes things happen according to the Pleasure of His Will. Such is His Celestial Order. oh vaykhai onaa nadar na aavai bahutaa ayhu vidaan. He watches over all, but none see Him. How wonderful this is! aadays tisai aadays. I bow to Him, I humbly bow aad aneel anaad anaahat jug jug ayko vays. ||30|| The Primal One, the Pure Light, without beginning, without end. Throughout all the ages, He is One and the Same. ||30|| japji sahib guru nanak dev ji There is one woman/mother, who is that woman/mother? That is maya (http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Maya). When god .. his wife maya call her durga(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durga), bhagauti[generally same as chandi and durga the hindu godess on lion in punjabi known as shera wali mata - http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhagauti referred in begining of ardas and dasam granth has different use], chandi(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandi). Say maya/bhaguati/durga/chandi all the same thing [generally durga/bhagauti/chandi are separate as maya comes from gita and chandi so forth mythology comes from the puranas]. Call her kudrat(nature / mother nature)/firti/ all the same. In the begining where 3 disciples, 1 sansari the one who gave birth to the world (sansar) who is Brahm (Brahma) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma brahma is in vedas and puranas and is the known as the writer of the vedas) as the speaker says brahma is known by muslims as Jabril [who is further known by christians and jews as Gabriel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel- Jibrial is the one who revelled the quran to prophet muhammad delivered the message of God through that angel]. And one sustainer (bhandari also known as Vishnu in hinduism who takes many popular incarnations on earth as a human one the most popularist is Krishna, some other would be Ram Chander, Vasudeva). Who the congregation we call Vishnu who muslim calls Israfil/Israafiyl (Judeo-Christian Raphael) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israfel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_(archangel)]. And one destroyed Shiva (in punjabi known as Shivji) who muslims call Azraeel Adhan (azraeel is the angel of death mentioned in islam; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael the terms appears in haddith when prophet muhammad was on his last days people saw the angel of death come and many times in gurbani). Repeats again one creator, one presevor and one destroyer. As God wants he does not in accordance with what the devas want. The devas (or as he says angels) do as God wills them to do. God watches them. God watches the creation (world), they work for him. One who sits in maya (materilism) will not see God. Guru Nanak relised this so praises are sang to God "I bow to Him, I humbly bow.". In essence he mentioned three angels of Islam one who delivered Islam to the prophet, and finally the angel who took the prophets soul. Well Guru Nanak theology was universal so it worked for Islam and Hinduism, so the perspective from Islam of the begining protection and end. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ However there is a difference between the idea of Vishnu and Rapheel . Raphael in Islam Raphael is honored in Islam as one of the great archangels. According to the hadith, Raphael is the angel responsible for signaling the coming of Judgment Day by blowing the trumpet (namely Sûr). According to tradition, the trumpet will be blown two times. The first blow of the trumpet will signal the beginning of Last Day and the second blow will signal the time when all the souls will be gathered for the Last Judgement. He is known more commonly as "Israphael" in Islamic history. According to the Quran, he has been holding his breath, waiting for Allah's order to blow the Sûr. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu Krishna is shown with the horn: Where did this guy even get what he said is what I wonder where does such a katha come from Dara Shikoh says "Duration and Destruction. Then he goes on to compare Brahma, Vishnu and Mahishvara with Jibrail, Mika'il and Israfil. He says that Brahma or Jibra'il is the (Superintending angel) of Creation; Vishnu or Mika'il is the angel of Duration (or Existence) and Mahishwara or Israfil is the angel of Destruction. Dara Shikoh further says that water, wind and fire are also allied with these angels. Thus water goes with Jibra'il, fire with Mika'il and air with Israfil. Similarly Brahma is water, Vishnu is fire and Maheshwara is air." http://www.salagram.net/InterFaith.html See this as well http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~rtavakol/engineer/oceans.htm My guess is this kathavachak misquote dara shikoh's works or heard it and so forth no one would bother to double check this stuff.
  8. Maybe goes back to the image the greek had of hades how terrifying it was probably made the jewish idea more terrifying. The ideas of Thor, Zeus and Jupiter have gone to Jesus (Father) and Allah (Mohammad).
  9. As the movie 300 shows time work to the end and this:
  10. Just like how ants build and help there community and how birds navigate together if one becomes selfish and attacks the rest the objective of the group fails and mayhem comes from that from which even rivals can capitalise upon. If they work together then a higher objective can be brought about. “The antidote for fifty enemies is one friend.” ― Aristotle “A common danger unites even the bitterest enemies” Aristotle “I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self.” Aristotle He is his own best friend, and takes delight in privacy whereas the man of no virtue or ability is his own worst enemy and is afraid of solitude” Aristotle
  11. The only teamworking punjabis have is to fight or something aggresive
  12. There are 2 main errors apart from the maths error in shariah inheritence. Also one about saying how the earth was created then the heavens. Modern day cosmology tells us first the heavens were created then the earth. Second is the quran says every thing was made in pairs male and female. Not all living organisms are sexual many are asexual they do not have gender some fish are some plants they reproduce themselves. There are more errors perhaps with science will be revelled however for now these 2 are subject for debate and it will be nice to hear more and counter arguments for those 2. Another copy paste and paraphrase is: Their first example comes from the Greek playwright Euripides, who died circa 406 BC. He is supposed to have written: "The tongue is mightier than the blade."[8] If the People's Almanac is correct, it should be possible to source this to an extant work by Euripides; however, the quote does appear in the 1935 fictional work Claudius the God and his Wife Messalina by Robert Graves,[9] and is thus possibly an anachronism. Several possible precursors do appear in the Old and New Testaments,[10] for example, in the Epistle to the Hebrews, whose authorship is uncertain, verse 4:12 reads: "Indeed, the word of God is living and effective, sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart."[11] The Islamic prophet Muhammad is quoted as saying "The ink of the scholar is holier than the blood of the martyr".[12][13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pen_is_mightier_than_the_sword Faqri fakhri "My poverty is my pride" ” —The Prophet Muhammad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_poverty and To those who reject Our signs and treat them with arrogance, no opening will there be of the gates of heaven, nor will they enter the garden, until the camel can pass through the eye of the needle: Such is Our reward for those in sin.[3] Judaism The Holy One said, open for me a door as big as a needle's eye and I will open for you a door through which may enter tents and [camels?][2] ...I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Parallel versions appear in Matthew 19:23-24, Mark 10:24-25, and Luke 18:24-25. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle#Islam and in hinduism and buddhism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism#Buddhism Deuteronomy 24:17 Do not deprive the alien or the fatherless of ... ... "You shall not pervert the justice due an alien or an orphan, nor take a widow's garment in pledge. ... Orphans I and the guardian of orphans (whether the orphan be of his near or distant relations, or of strangers) will be in one place in the next world; like my two fingers, nearly touching each other. The best Muslim house is that in which is an orphan, who is benefited; and the worst Muslim house is that in which an orphan is ill-treated. You could track most sayings back: http://www.twf.org/Sayings.html such as adultery, stealing, backbitting = http://aochr.wordpress.com/gossiping-and-backbiting-2/ Buddhism bowing just like namaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration_(Buddhism) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halakha and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turban http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting http://www.diffen.com/difference/Islam_vs_Judaism http://www.diffen.com/difference/Hinduism_vs_Islam concept of one god and paradise came from: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Islam_vs_Zoroastrianism http://www.diffen.com/difference/Christianity_vs_Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Islamic_relations comparison with sikhi: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Islam_vs_Sikhism Islam could be understood to be the corrections of christianity so jesus's teaching fixed.. What did Muhammad teach us that Jesus didnt? Jesus(PBUH) just confirmed what was already taught before him, by Moses/Noah/Abraham/etc. وَإِذۡ قَالَ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ يَـٰبَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ إِنِّى رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ إِلَيۡكُم مُّصَدِّقً۬ا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَىَّ مِنَ ٱلتَّوۡرَٮٰةِ وَمُبَشِّرَۢا بِرَسُولٍ۬ يَأۡتِى مِنۢ بَعۡدِى ٱسۡمُهُ ۥۤ أَحۡمَدُ‌ۖ فَلَمَّا جَآءَهُم بِٱلۡبَيِّنَـٰتِ قَالُواْ هَـٰذَا سِحۡرٌ۬ مُّبِينٌ۬ (٦) And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One. Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic. [Quran 61:6] And Jesus was sent to Just the "Children of Israel" as said above and in this Bible verse: " I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. " (Matthew 15:24) Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) on the other hand, was sent to all of mankind: وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَـٰكَ إِلَّا ڪَآفَّةً۬ لِّلنَّاسِ بَشِيرً۬ا وَنَذِيرً۬ا وَلَـٰكِنَّ أَڪۡثَرَ ٱلنَّاسِ لَا يَعۡلَمُونَ ( And We have not sent thee (O Muhammad) save as a bringer of good tidings and a warner unto all mankind; but most of mankind know not. [34:28] The Bible, and Torah got corrupted. The Prophet brought the entire truth, ISLAM, and Allah's finalized message, the Quran. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110317155914AAc8pua Now with jesus for us he is a saint but he is different in terms of his love compared to prophet muhammads warrior hood which even jesus could be seen with but is shown with greater love. http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Who_Did_Jesus_Claim_to_Be Jesus could be compared with avesta and the buddha more with shades of moses and abraham. From a sikhi perspective prophet muhammad did attain enlightenment and shows a path to it.
  13. We have to pass this act otherwise we will end up becomming hindus death of self i do not fear, death of conciousness I fear. Sant Jarnail Singh bhindranwale.
  14. Well for the sikhs they got a huge opportunity to grow there number by converting the hindus but somehow that got screwed up and sikhs end up declining going the other way.
  15. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Sikhism
  16. Every name of God in Sikhism - I will start please continue. Also if anyone can do a word count please tell me how many times it occurs in gurbani i think whaeguru occurs 13 times and maybe Har is the most used name. We find attributes or descriptions of God could be classed as his names as well. This list must be huge but start it off. Just like the list here let us compose our own http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam Whaeguru (va - he- gu - ru ) [satnaam] Akalpurkh Rab - (arabic from islam - the lord) Khuda - (persian, from zorostrainism used by islam via sufism) Har - (Har har - comming from vaishnism associated with vishnu more so krishna) Ram - (comming from vaishnism association of avtar of vishnu Ram chander) illah- (arabic from islam - the god) allah- (arabic from islam - the god) parbrahm - (he who is above Brahma) parmatma - (he who is above atma i.e. soul) Raheem (arabic from islam - the most merciful) Kareem (arabic from islam- the most gracious) Kaal Kartar Onkar Satkartar Nirankar Nigun Satguru Guru Bhagvaan parmisher prabh (parabh) swami Akal purkh pretam-pyare (beloved) Nirbhao guseeaa Nirvar Sultan Malik Parvarḏagār (cherisher lord) Kabir Niranjan hakaa (arabic/persian - truth the truthful one) baeaib (arabic/persian - one without flaws) gopal govind - gobind Patshahian - (patshah) Thakur nriname akame gobinde - Jaap sahib then is said as : Macauliffe says, "The Hindus have a work enitled Vishnu Sahasar Nam, 'Vishnu's Thousand Names.' The Jaapji was composed to supply the Sikhs with a similar number of epithets of the Creator." Which will hold more however from SGGS please let's have more and maybe we can organise this list with references to bani, count, context, by which mehla and so forth
  17. Types of kufr (disbelief) - Adapted from 'Tafseer ibn Katheer[5] The Qur'an uses the word kufr to denote a person who covers up or hides realities, one who refuses to accept the dominion and authority of Allāh. There are several types of Al-Kufr ul Akbar: Kufrul-'Inaad: Disbelief out of stubbornness. This applies to someone who knows the truth and admits to knowing the truth and admits to knowing it with his tongue, but refuses to accept it and refrains from making a declaration. The Qur'an states: "Do ye twain hurl to hell each rebel ingrate?" [6] Kufrul-Inkaar: Disbelief out of denial. This applies to someone who denies with both heart and tongue. The Qur'an states: "They recognize the favor of Allah, yet they deny it, and most of them are ungrateful."[7] Kufrul-Kibr: Disbelief out of arrogance and pride. The disbelief by the devil (Iblees) is an example of this type of kufr. Kufrul-Juhood: Disbelief out of rejection. This applies to someone who acknowledges the truth in his heart, but rejects it with his tongue. This types of kufr is applicable to those who calls themselves Muslims but who reject any necessary and accepted norms of Islam such as Salaat and Zakat. The Qur'an states: "And they denied them, though their souls acknowledged them, for spite and arrogance. Then see the nature of the consequence for the wrong-doers!"[8] Kufrul-Nifaaq: Disbelief out of hypocrisy. This applies to someone who pretends to be a believer but conceals his disbelief. Such a person is called a MUNAFIQ or hypocrite. The Qur'an states: "The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire: no helper wilt thou find for them." [9] Kufrul-Istihlaal: Disbelief out of trying to make HARAM into HALAL. This applies to someone who accepts as lawful (Halal) that which Allah has made unlawful (Haram) like alcohol or adultery. Only Allah has the prerogative to make things Halal and Haram and those who seek to interfere with His right are like rivals to Him and therefore fall outside the boundaries of faith. Kufrul-Kurh: Disbelief out of detesting any of Allah's commands. The Qur'an states: "And those who disbelieve, perdition is for them, and He will make their actions vain; That is because they are averse to that which Allah hath revealed, therefor maketh He their actions fruitless."[10] Kufrul-Istihzaa: Disbelief due to mockery and derision. The Qur'an states: "And if thou ask them (O Muhammad) they will say: We did but talk and jest. Say: Was it at Allah and His revelations and His messenger that ye did scoff; Make no excuse. Ye have disbelieved after your (confession of) belief. If We forgive a party of you, a party of you We shall punish because they have been guilty."[11] Kufrul-I'raadh: Disbelief due to avoidance. This applies to those who turn away and avoid the truth. The Qur'an states: "And who is more unjust than he who is reminded of the communications of his Lord, then he turns away from them and forgets what his two hands have sent before? Surely We have placed veils over their hearts lest they should understand it and a heaviness in their ears; and if you call them to the guidance (Qur'an), they will not ever follow the right course (Islam) in that case."[12] Kufrul-Istibdaal: Disbelief because of trying to substitute Allah's Laws. This could take the form of: (a) Rejection of Allah's law (Sharee'ah) without denying it, ( denial of Allah's law and therefore rejecting it, or © Substituting Allah's laws with "artificial" (i.e. non-Muslim) laws. The Qur'an states: "And if Allah had pleased He would surely have made them a single community, but He makes whom He pleases enter into His mercy, and the unjust it is that shall have no guardian or helper."[13] The Qur'an says: "Truly, Allâh is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are doers of good and righteousness." [14]
  18. The nature of how a kaffir is described as being arrogant, and destined for hellfire, and is the enemy of a muslim and that is entirely the word of God. To be harsh to them. It makes muslims do horrible things, hate and treat them like crap. Being a human being you tend to retialite and be horrible back to them. Which makes things worse. Now if you realise that and tolerate even the intolerable they will still in there mind have hatred deep because the quran teaches that the kaffir has hatred for the muslim. Now as such muslims show hatred to kaffirs then kaffirs back to muslims which makes muslims think the quran is true that kaffirs are arrogant and hate muslims. Even the types of kaffir are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir The sufis believe in being tolerate and trying to convert the non-muslims with love and respect for dawa they will do loads of nice sweet things have sweet words and loads of lies (such as your religion is good, follow your religion, "I respect your religion") in there heart they wish to convert you, so you and them can go to heaven and for the muslim they will go to the highest heaven and it is a duty to go out and convert others. This whole issue of infidelity is the biggest issue with islam which muslims don't understand they will argue islam is tolerant. to some extent it does have some elements however not equal, a non-muslim is not the equal as a muslim if you argue that they will say you are there equal as a body but you will go to hell for not accepting the word of God the quran and the haddiths and sunnah of the prophet. And accept the prophet as the most perfect of all creation as the last and final messenger of God accepting there is one god. Further for muslims Sikhs are idoltarers they worship a book and put it to sleep as muslims feel allah does not sleep why worship a god that is put to sleep it is polytheism and idoltary. They reject prophet muhammad as a prophet for which they will go to hell. And utter harsh words against companions and caliphas. So they wish to convert every sikh, you and your entire family. Today we teach this Baba Nand singh theory which baba nand singh got from bulleh shah a muslim. About pluarism and accepting muslims and there path back in maharaja ranjit singhs time (from all 10 gurus times as well) we actively did parchar and converted many muslims made them friendly nice people tolerated them. We didn't say there religion is correct, now we say there religion is correct and they say ours is false and they go after our women. And ideologically brainwash and convert many guys. Bulleh shah was a muslim who did parchar in his way, why are we preaching bulleh shah's works in all gurdwaras sufism is understood as a trojan horse ideology. Bulleh shahs works can be respected however why are we teaching it in guru ghars. Let us teach tolerance not pluarism, sikhi is the truth.
  19. http://www.yoindia.com/shayariadab/devotional-poetry-in-punjabi/tere-upkar-baba-t62490.0.html Jado'n Babe Ne Mehar Dee Nigah Keeti, Suke Khet Phir Jat De Harre Ho Gae. Teri Choh Naal Pather Vi Mom Hoe, Hath Vali De Khare De Khare Rah Gae. Phiria Mecca Jad Mulla'n Iteraz Keeta, Hosh Kazia'n De Urre De Urre Rah Gae. Tainu'n Maarn Jo Aye C Lok Baba, Pather Hatha'n 'c Farre De Farre Rah Gae. Kaude Rakash Nu'n Nigah Naal Thar Dita, Karahe Taile De Karre De Karre Rah Gae. Kirt Lalo Dee Tu'n C Bhag Lia, Poore Bhago De Raut Naal Bharre Rah Gae. Sajan Thug Nu'n Sajan Bana Dita, Pa'ndh Bhumiae Chor De Dharre Rah Gae. Jado'n Sat Kartar Dee Vaaj Ayee, Ma'nter Sidha'n De Parre De Parre Rah Gae. Dase Jaan Na Tere Upkar Baba, Thabhe Kagaza'n De Farre De Farre Rah Gae. Jehra Paath Tu'n Asa'n Paraya C, Poch Patia'n Paath To'n Parre Rah Gae. Sanu Datia Bhavjalo'n Paar Kae De, Asee Kande Te Neelam Kharre Rah Gae
  20. One thing about the ekta is if you want to outsmart 22% of the world all you have to do is outsmart prophet muhammad and his theology and philisophies and you will outsmart all of them. For a powerful illiterate, powerful businessman/warrior it is tough to do. For survival and self-defense something we will have to do when we are attacked again like happened with the moghul era (who mostly where blinded by there hatred- instilled by there religion against non-muslims) which may re-appear again when tyranny and injustice rules over the world.
  21. That is the thing even in babur or aurangzeb's time they hated each other faught with each other but when it came to taking over India they backstabbed all the hindus and sikhs, budhhists, zorostrains throughout. Even backstabiing sikhs and guru gobind singh several times. In babur time they all came together even though they had 72 sects then main two even came together to take over India and they did it. Lodi dynasty tried but messed up moghul learnt from there mistakes but did it secretly over powered india they had more academia, technology, theology sciences then India did they were smarter then indians. Now pakistan is an issue with india. it is all a mater of backstabbing when the time comes. However gora have there number they are going one on one both strong parties us lot are too weak and getting weaker at times.
  22. A combination of the laws established with the jews with modifications the whole laws that even jesus stood up against he said "he who is without sin caste the first stone". they say they believe in him but they still stone women to death. The shariah uses jewish terminology used by abraham which was inspired by avesta and zorostraism as well ancient paganism, philisophies, sciences such as the summerians. Mohammaden religion is impressive compared to previous theologies in terms of it's philisophies, manipulation techniques and further features. However it incoroporates the theory of might is right, it put those who do not belong to it to the state of an animal and most of them do not realise the ideological manipulations involved even till today modern psychology can't break it down from things like love jihad, exposes others weakness such as how tolerant other people are using it. As well as a strong spirtual movement that bears fruit, such a framework is difficult to break down. It is the religion of Abraham moreso that brought out the evil of the jews against jesus christ. We can't even guess about the interpolation and messing around muslims did with other religions when they occupied those countries and alterations, destruction of libraries, rewriting history destroying civilisations to replace with their own what has happened through it. Every muslim believes in a few things which are there is one god, muhammad is his final prophet, every other religion apart from islam is false, lie, patience to overcome the kaffir, lie, lie, lie, become stronger - academically, physically, mentally, socially, finacial then non-muslim then supress them, be harsh to non-muslim and loving and merciful to muslims degrade them to animals take them as slaves and women as slaves i.e. concubines (aka rape them) breed into and over them. Moderate muslims don't exisit only ignorant or reinterpreted versions which distort the actuality of the religion, and the militant ones. Probably in our life times they will become more overpopulated then us and will control more things in economies and the world then us we will become weaker then we already are and into much worser times then those which were in aurangzebs it will be ideologically hardship- unless there is mercy from God and a miracle- so the test of time will come on sikhi if it is what akal purkh wants and if so we will need a huge set of miracles otherwise we will be gone. Even how fast they bread, and how interconnected communities are when you make a debate against them they will say you are insulting them, you are taking things out of context and you automatically become the bad guy even as an innocent argument the attitude assumed in the quran and haddiths towards non-muslims is impressive it degrades them in every aspect. The nature of even Taquia - lying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya Qur'an 3:28 enjoins Muslims not to take the company of non-Muslims unless as a means of safeguarding themselves. "Let not the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers – since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything – unless it be to protect yourself against them in this way… http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Lying_for_Islam_(taqiyya) Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" [Ahmad, 6.459. H] Generally Islam is goverened with 4 schools of thought which are understood by more then 172 sects and some sects consider others to be kuffar (non-muslim) hence having to go to hell and different religious legal positions to be considered such as apostasy etc.[16] 9.123: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). [17] I5.82: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.slam Acceptable:[18] 3.85: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.[19] No friends from outsiders 3.118: O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.[20] No friends with non believers 3.28: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.[21] Believers make superior friends 4.144: O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves? [22] 5.82: Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly. 9.28: O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.[23] 9.29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.[24] 2.62, 5.69 : All except Muslims / Jews/Christians / Sabeans will go to hell Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.[25] Punishing non-believers of Hereafter 17.10 : And that (as for) those who do not believe in the hereafter, We have prepared for them a painful chastisement.[26] Punishing for rejecting faith 3.91 : Surely, those who disbelieve and die while they are unbelievers, the earth full of gold shall not be accepted from one of them, though he should offer to ransom himself with it, these it is who shall have a painful chastisement, and they shall have no helpers.[27] Unbelievers go to hell 4.140 : And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear Allah's communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until they enter into some other discourse; surely then you would be like them; surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in hell. 7.36 : And (as for) those who reject Our communications and turn away from them haughtily -- these are the inmates of the fire they shall abide in it.[28] Partial Believers go to hell too 4.150 : Surely those who disbelieve in Allah and His apostles and (those who) desire to make a distinction between Allah and His apostles and say: We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and desire to take a course between (this and) that. [29] 4.151 : These it is that are truly unbelievers, and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement. [30] 4.152 : And those who believe in Allah and His apostles and do not make a distinction between any of them -- Allah will grant them their rewards; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.[31] 14.4 : And We did not send any apostle but with the language of his people, so that he might explain to them clearly; then Allah makes whom He pleases err and He guides whom He pleases and He is the Mighty, the Wise.[32] Prophets sent to every Nation and tribe of the whole world All the verses are subjected to being understood in there context and interpretations and understandings for some they conclude Islam is not pluaristic while for others understanding they see the verse below to understand pluarism;[33] To every people (was sent) a messenger: when their messenger comes (before them), the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged. S. 10:47[34] The worshippers of false gods say: "If Allah had so willed, we should not have worshipped aught but Him - neither we nor our fathers,- nor should we have prescribed prohibitions other than His." So did those who went before them. But what is the mission of messengers but to preach the Clear Message? For We assuredly sent amongst every People a messenger, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth). S. 16:35-36[35] To every People have We appointed rites and ceremonies which they must follow: let them not then dispute with thee on the matter, but do thou invite (them) to thy Lord: for thou art assuredly on the Right Way. S. 22:67[36] Verily We have sent thee in truth, as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner: and there never was a people, without a warner having lived among them (in the past). S. 35:24[37] But (there were people) before them, who denied (the Signs),- the People of Noah, and the Confederates (of Evil) after them; and EVERY PEOPLE plotted against their prophet, to seize him, and disputed by means of vanities, therewith to condemn the Truth; but it was I that seized them! and how (terrible) was My Requital! Thus was the Decree of thy Lord proved true against the Unbelievers; that truly they are Companions of the Fire! S. 40:5-6[38] Renowned Sunni commentator Ibn Kathir stated in relation to Sura 35:24:[39] And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them.) means, there was never any nation among the sons of Adam but Allah sent warners to them, and left them with no excuse. This is like the Ayat: … [40] <You are only a warner, and to every people there is a guide> (13:7)…[41] <And verily, We have sent among every Ummah a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah, and avoid all false deities. Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified> (16:36). [42] (Quran 2:62) Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
  23. WJKK WJKFji According to some scholars Dasam granth was taken out of akal takht in 1940s and it was understood that this establishes raj yog for the sikh panth. For whatever reason the sgpc and all 5 takhts agree that dasam granth is bani, and that only a sikh can believe it anyone who challenges it is tankhian. There will never be khalsa raj until dasam granth is put back in akal takht. What can we do to have dasam granth put back into the akal takht? WJKK WJKFji
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