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Khalsa, Things are very bad over here, because the majority of the kaalay are West Indians of Jamaican origin. The problem is, they tend to be either saints or outright villains - there's no grey area with them. Obviously the good ones are no trouble at all, but they do next to nothing to restrain the villains. That's the problem. Nihal Kaur, I do share some of your belief that in the UK the Sikhs are softer than we would like, but I can assure you that I'm not. I know someone who is daily harassed by a kaala, who makes sexual and inappropriate, very rude, comments towards her. The only thing is, she makes a show of laughing it off. As a woman, what would you say I should I do in this situation?

Ms514, You mentioned "African Americans" when referring to Britain. Let me tell you that blacks in Britain are predominantly not American and not African - they are West Indian with a cultural predication towards criminality. They are different from Africans. What's this nonsense about me owing my respectable job to the kaalay? You are obviously in the States, and have no idea about how things are in Britain. There is no post-slavery situation here. Over here, let me tell you that the far-right white supremacist political party the National Front had enormous sway over public opinion in the 1970s. It was a major political force, and whites would spit at Punjabi Sikhs when they saw them in the streets. That's part of the reason for why Southall (you ever been there?) exists. I will TELL you unequivocally that I owe my respectable job to no kaala. I have a university and post-graduate education. If I was a gora, I would be in the corridors of power right now. I suggest strongly that if you are in the USA, stay out of this discussion, because the situation here is different from over there. I will tell you yet more: not only was my father involved in the Southall riots (where the police wrote "NF" inside their riot vans and then got beaten up properly and deservedly) but my father's father was imprisoned by the British in the final years of the Raj, for inciting a riot in India. Don't you start lecturing me about owing ANYTHING to kaalay, OK. Do you know ANYTHING at all? About the Commonwealth Immigration Acts, Enoch Powell. "rivers of blood" and all of that? Are you from the States? If you are, you know nothing whatsoever, so stay out of this. I don't accept that my post was racist. If it was, provide reasons. Everything I wrote was and is true. Over here, we don't wear stars-and-stripes dastaars, my friend. And we don't let them sleep with our women just for a quiet life. We're not that pacified. We kick butt.

Sorry Nihal I'm sure that many women are careful about their personal hygiene. Just none that I've been with. Only kidding! I was pretty sure that I'm not atypical of Sikh men insofar as I simply will not do certain things. Even for one I knew, who I was very fond of.

Hmmm.. And I'm supposed to care about that am I? I care about it about as much as I care about the pleasure of any women who's my sexual partner. Not enough to trim my beard and try sushi. Good day...

I hope you're right. But the problem is that when you take a chance on the bad aspects in someone's character, your chances of success are much higher than if you take a chance on their good qualities. The craftiness of gorey is astonishing. As history has shown, they are masters of using one race/people against another, and then coming over as the "protector" of both, and establishing themselves as the ruler. They are masters in the art of treachery. However, they are not stupid. They will not run into a brick wall.....

He's trimmed his beard to please the ladies. And so that he does'nt catch lice in his face when he's pleasing them so much. [it's OK moderator - this one will go over the "heads" of most reading this forum.]

Has anyone else noticed how David Blunkett's assimilation-not-intergration (ANI) policies have started making tentative attacks on Punjabi communities? Last year, there was that fiasco where the racist and blind DB insisted that in the privacy of their own homes, Punjabis should speak English and not Punjabi. Now the citizenship (naturalisation) requirements include a mandatory indoctrination on their version of British history, the "changing roles of women in British society" (see the Home Office website), and English language. The requirement to know English is the only reasonable thing on that list. But all this is not my point. My point is that sexual assaults on Punjabi women are imminent in centres of Asian dominance such as Southall. The gorey are cunning and crafty. They are starting to talk about "multiculturism", "integration" (they mean assimilation) and "modernisation". All of this is David Blunkett's plan. They are now encouraging (through popular music, videos, peer pressure and television) the KAALAY to seduce Punjabi girls. Kaalay ways are different from ours. They have no manners, no respect and no courtesy. They seduce women noisily and vulgarly - it's a part of their culture. In Southall, they have become bold enough to drive around with their kaala music playing loudly, lechering and calling out and embarassing respectable Punjabi girls. This is slowly becoming worse - they are openly standing in the street in small gangs in some cases, trying to seduce girls. This has to stop. Even if you don't agree with me on this issue, I urge you to look at the realities of this situation. If a Punjabi girl is physically molested, she will experience too much shame to report this incident honestly to her family. If one of them is "given a lift" in a car, anything could happen. There is a part of kaala culture that involves a group of males having sex with one female, one after another or 2 at a time. If this happens even a very few times, Southall and the Punjabi community will be utterly destroyed, and the kaalay will no longer have any fear.. Prevention first, and then, when we see that the prevention is'nt working, the remedy must be brought into play. This is a very serious problem, which is bigger than the delinquent youths and adolescent girls at the centre of the action. This is a part of a wider political initiative designed to break down the unique identity of the Punjabi people. Drastic measures will be required very soon. The question is, have we become too soft to do anything about this situation that's about to unfold? My dad was involved in the Southall riots against the National Front and the police etc. in the 1970s. Are we made of the same stuff to be ready to do the same once again? There is a department of the Home Office which is responsible for "dispersing" asylum seekers all around the country. It is no accident that they chose the Somali asylum seekers to all be settled in Southall, while their applications are determined. If they lose their fear, all hell will break loose. Therefore less bhang and bhangra, and more awareness and distrust of what's happening on a larger scale politically.

Don't be like that! I'm sure you'll approve of something in my advice repertory. Like making bhang lassi from buds and hash.....

Don't sign on at any gym. If you have to sign on, make sure it's at the dole office, while you're on a break from a construction job. Gyms are for the shaved-chest treadmill-running headset-and-lycra-wearing sauna boys. Not for training warriors. A tip: if you're married, don't let your wife go to the gym, even if it's the modern thing to do. (The above was written while listening to a techno track on my Sennheisers, bidding me to "Shut up, if you have nothing to say - shut up! Say nothing!")

Niranjana, Are you sure your routine is INTENSIVE ENOUGH???

Everything has to be made up by someone. From one point of view, making something out of nothing or nothing out of something is an interesting and stimulating creative exercise. That aside, I would be very interested to see this videa. Someone obtain it, and do it soon.

I think a kora (don't know the correct pronunciation) is an inverted curved sword, about 1.5 or 2 feet long. It's like a kukhri, but it has a double-tip, like a Turkish scimitar. Also, the blade flares out and becomes very broad near the end. This sword is sort of L-shaped, with the shorter stalk of the "L" being very broad, and culminating in a yataghan point.

Warrior-saint Warrior-monk Warrior-ascetic These ideals sound plausible to most. They seem to expressly reject the householder way of life. You're balancing 2 competing advantages: on the one hand being completely free to act and think, and on the other being insanely fanatical about protecting some things that only matter to you and are otherwise insignificant in the scheme of things (your wife's honour, your children's lives, your job, your Tag Heuer and your BMW). The latter "advantage" becomes an advantage when it forces you to team up with others to protect a common interest. The 2 paths meet often. The hermit/sage refers to the householder to reference compassion and courage (fanaticism), and the householder to the hermit/sage for morality and ethics (a sense of right and wrong, and shame). Hence, you could say that the irrational desire to suppress, say, a child's exposure to hot food, television and jewellery (in case they develop subconscious desires) is necessary in order to hold a family together. If neither man nor woman possessed a sense of shame, there would be no cohesive family unit, and, therefore, no such thing as a householder way of life. For the above reason, Niranjan, you are both right and wrong. :? :shock: :shock:

On the subject of whether the Budha Dal can still be considered an army, I think it's worth mentioning that in many very recent conflicts, primitive weapons have played an important role. The genocide in Rwanda, where Tutsis and Hutus set upon each other with traditional machetes (very large numbers of killings resulted), is an example. Plus the conflict between Israel and Palestine: Palestinians have used sticks and stones to wage a sort of guerrilla campaign ever since the inception of Israel. Also, to ths day most households in northern India and Pakistan have at least a sword or homemade pistol stashed away somewhere. It's a legacy of Partition in 1947, when millions were killed using axes, knives, swords, etc. Also, in modern riots in India and Pakistan, the swords, sticks, knives will come out as they always did (example: the Babri masjid/Ayodhya temple dispute). Sure, there are guns and bombs. But the swords still cut and the arrows still fly. Nothing's changed in that regard. Therefore, if it's organised in a hierarchical way (i.e. not operating from guerrilla or insurgent-type cells), the Budha Dal is still an army. This view is compounded by the fact that they are readily identifiable and visible (with discipline and a uniform).

Agreed. You should'nt put cocaine or heroin in the degh. However, you might use Novacaine at the dentist's, or morphine if you're in hospital receiving treatment. Those uses are pragmatic, although obviously they are nothing to do with the maryada of shaheedi degh. Supposing you were making some sort of bhang lassi (i.e. a drink for yourself on a hot day - nothing to do with religion). By using hashish, you will absorb a LOT more THC into the milk (esp. if you add ghee then heat it all up) than by laboriously mashing up some cannabis leaves. Just a thought. Although you could'nt necessarily trust the content of the hashish as much as the green leaves. Is it allowed, according to the maryada, to add a couple of buds or let them fall into the mixture? That would have a big effect on the potency of the drink.