vikash singh Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 waheguru ji why do we bhet kirpan in langer and karha parsad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laadli Fauj Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 praane same vich, when maharaj was in dehdhaari saroop, they would touch any gifts, and langar, from sangat as a form of blessing as well as acceptance since maharaj often told his sikhs that shastar are guru saroop, we do bhog to langar today for the same reason. its not us doing anything, but maharaj themself blessing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 It signifies that Khalsa Panth is alive and well. It means panth is not without Degh or Tegh. Degh Tegh Fateh! Khalsay Dee Har Maidaan Fateh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 It signifies that Khalsa Panth is alive and well. It means panth is not without Degh or Tegh. Degh Tegh Fateh! Khalsay Dee Har Maidaan Fateh! Fauji You may not know but degh tegh is mentioned only in Dasam granth sahib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Inder Uncle Ji, Why do you have to link everything to Dasam Granth? Did I bring Dasam Granth in this thread? Why do you bring Dasam Granth into everything? We can discuss Dasam Granth and its content during live talk. No need to cause havoc here. We can talk about Degh Tegh Jag Mai Doaou Chlai some other time in live talk. Safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Inder Uncle Ji, Why do you have to link everything to Dasam Granth? Did I bring Dasam Granth in this thread? Why do you bring Dasam Granth into everything? We can discuss Dasam Granth and its content during live talk. No need to cause havoc here. We can talk about Degh Tegh Jag Mai Doaou Chlai some other time in live talk. Safe? Because degh tegh fateh originates from Dasam Granth. it is not found anywhere else.So those who reject Dasam Granth have no right to use Degh tegh also. Once they disown Dasam granth these terms are automatically disowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Ya right! For real eh? So those who reject DG should remain hungry and not carry kirpaans? Please get this bill passed in UNO. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Ya right! For real eh? So those who reject DG should remain hungry and not carry kirpaans? Please get this bill passed in UNO. Thanks. Those who reject Dasam granth have no right to use terms that originate from this Granth and are part of sikh traditions. That is simple logic. jagtar singh jachak went to Mrigendra singh who lives upstate New york for soliciting support against Dasam granth. He told Jachak that he should remove his kirpan and kachhehra when he comes next time to solicit support agianst dasam granth. Very logical advice.You can not have both of two worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Who the heck if Mrigendra or Shirendra to tell someone to remove kashera and kirpaan? There was no kashera or kirpaan before Dasam Granth? Sikhs were running around nungay and weaponless before? What a scene these Mrigendra and Rajendra's make. Kashera of Sikh will always remain with them. Who is this Mrigendra by the way? Give me his phone # or email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) Who the heck if Mrigendra or Shirendra to tell someone to remove kashera and kirpaan? There was no kashera or kirpaan before Dasam Granth? Sikhs were running around nungay and weaponless before? What a scene these Mrigendra and Rajendra's make. Kashera of Sikh will always remain with them. Who is this Mrigendra by the way? Give me his phone # or email. Mrigendra singh's advice was very correct and to the point.Mrigendra singh should have gone a little further and asked him to clip his hair and remove turban. Kachhera and kirpan are one of the five kakkars given by guru Gobind singh sahib.He has mandated sikhs to wear that. If one does not recognise His bani then there is no sense for such people to wear those. Otherwise one is a bhekhi or a behrupia. That is why this nastik jachak who carries 5 foot kirpan to mislead sikhs by his bhekh need to discontinue that. One of this gang member Jeonwala was given a befitting reply when he tried to mislead sikhs at Rouchester, NY Gurudwara on sept 27.2009. In practical purpose such nastik guys have to be like sindhi hindus who accord recognition to SGGS but not to Dasam Granth sahib. Edited October 7, 2009 by singh2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Mrigendra singh's advice was very correct and to the point. Kachhera and kirpan are one of the five kakkars given by guru Gobind singh sahib.He has mandated sikhs to wear that. If one does not recognise His bani then there is no sense for such to wear those. Otherwise one is a bhekhi or a behrupia. That is why this nastik jachak who carries 5 foot kirpan to mislead sikhs by his bhekh need to discontinue that. In practical purpose such nastik guys have to be like sindhi hindus who accord recognition to SGGS but not to Dasam Granth sahib. You still haven't told me who Mrigendra is. What do 5 kakkars have to do with Dasam Granth? One has to follow poet Shyam to wear 5 kakkars? Who is rejecting kakkars here? Me or you? You are telling Sikhs to not wear kakkars. This is exactly what the Indian government and RSS want. Who should you be linked to then? I have seem messed up people but none like you. Tell me more about Mrigendra and his ancestors. Which family is he from? Who is naastik? One who follows death / time or one who follows timeless and deathless? Do you want Jaachak to carry AK 47 instead of 5 foot kirpaan? There are Muslims who also have faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The thing is a Sikh only has faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Not some anti-Gurmat stuff such as sindhis do. There is no relation here. RSS loves devi poojaa like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Let's hear some more about kirpan bhet .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 You still haven't told me who Mrigendra is. What do 5 kakkars have to do with Dasam Granth? One has to follow poet Shyam to wear 5 kakkars? Who is rejecting kakkars here? Me or you? You are telling Sikhs to not wear kakkars. This is exactly what the Indian government and RSS want. Who should you be linked to then? I have seem messed up people but none like you. Tell me more about Mrigendra and his ancestors. Which family is he from? Who is naastik? One who follows death / time or one who follows timeless and deathless? Do you want Jaachak to carry AK 47 instead of 5 foot kirpaan? There are Muslims who also have faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The thing is a Sikh only has faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Not some anti-Gurmat stuff such as sindhis do. There is no relation here. RSS loves devi poojaa like you do. Five kakkars have everything to do with Dasam granth. There are no five kakkars without Dasam granth. There is no sikhi left without Dasam Granth sahib. If you do not know that read Dasam Granth sahib. There is no kirpan without Dasam granth sahib.Once they do away with Dasam Granth it will be easy for them to discard SGGS ji which is their ultimate aim. Do not bring Mrigendra singh to the level of two penny missionary Jachak. ljachak is not a well wisher of SGGs also. He is saying that SGGS was not written at Damdama sahib. Rogue characters will go on propagating against dasam granth sahib without any proof. Now tyou say that it promotes devi Puja? Show me where is it? Otherwise take your words back. You are even worse than sindhis who are traitors of panth, resort to lies and thuggery. Is that what SGS teaches missioanries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) You still haven't told me who Mrigendra is. What do 5 kakkars have to do with Dasam Granth? One has to follow poet Shyam to wear 5 kakkars? Who is rejecting kakkars here? Me or you? You are telling Sikhs to not wear kakkars. This is exactly what the Indian government and RSS want. Who should you be linked to then? I have seem messed up people but none like you. Tell me more about Mrigendra and his ancestors. Which family is he from? Who is naastik? One who follows death / time or one who follows timeless and deathless? Do you want Jaachak to carry AK 47 instead of 5 foot kirpaan? There are Muslims who also have faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The thing is a Sikh only has faith in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Not some anti-Gurmat stuff such as sindhis do. There is no relation here. RSS loves devi poojaa like you do. Five kakkars have everything to do with Dasam granth.These are given to khalsa after five banis (three of those are from Dasam granth) are read. There are no five kakkars without Dasam granth. There is no sikhi left without Dasam Granth sahib. If you do not know that read Dasam Granth sahib. There is no kirpan without Dasam granth sahib. You have no link to kakkars if you do not ackonwledge banis of Dasam Granth. Only a shameless human will claim to be a khalsa after rejecting Dasam granth sahib. Do not bring Mrigendra singh to the level of two penny missionary Jachak. jachak is not a well wisher of SGGs also. He is saying that SGGS was not written at Damdama sahib. Rogue characters will go on propagating against dasam granth sahib without any proof. Now you say that it promotes devi Puja? Show me where is it? Otherwise take your words back. You are even worse than sindhis and people like you are traitors of panth, resort to lies and thuggery. Is that what SGGS teaches missionaries. Edited October 7, 2009 by singh2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Five kakkars have everything to do with Dasam granth. There are no five kakkars without Dasam granth. There is no sikhi left without Dasam Granth sahib. If you do not know that read Dasam Granth sahib. There is no kirpan without Dasam granth sahib.Once they do away with Dasam Granth it will be easy for them to discard SGGS ji which is their ultimate aim. How do you know there is no kirpaan without Dasam Granth? How did 6th Nanak wear 2 kirpaans of Miri and Piri? There was no Sikhi until 1730 or whenever Dasam Granth came? Baba Budda wasn't a Sikh? Lehnaa wasn't a Sikh? Bibi Bhaani wasn't a Sikh? Oh I am sorry, Bibis aren't equal so they aren't Sikhs eh? Whose ultimate aim is to discard Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Why do you make up stuff? Why do you always practice thuggery and trickery and deceit? You also said those who don't believe in Dasam Granth should cut hair. What do hair have to do with Dasam Granth? Lets have a live talk on who should cut hair and who should keep them. Do not bring Mrigendra singh to the level of two penny missionary Jachak. ljachak is not a well wisher of SGGs also. He is saying that SGGS was not written at Damdama sahib. You are lying once again. All he said was that Guru Granth Sahib Ji bir was originally completed at Damdama Sahib Gurduara at Anandpur and not Bathinda. What is wrong with that? All it does is establish further credibilty of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Do you have issues with Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Who is this Mrigendra Singh? Sounds like a weird name of a weird person with weird family ancestors. Who is this character? Rogue characters will go on propagating against dasam granth sahib without any proof. Now tyou say that it promotes devi Puja? Show me where is it? Otherwise take your words back. You are even worse than sindhis who are traitors of panth, resort to lies and thuggery. Is that what SGS teaches missioanries. Who got proven as a liar many times is not hidden. Bring live talk and we will prove what promotes devi pooja and what promotes Gurmat. Why do you run from live talk? Where do Sindhis keep coming from? Where does SGS mean? Siree Granth Sahib? You now resorting to direct attacks on Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Let me tell you what Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches us: ਖਸਮੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਦੂਜੈ ਲਗੇ ਡੁਬੇ ਸੇ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬੋਹਿਥਾ ਵਿਰਲੈ ਕਿਨੈ ਵੀਚਾਰਿਆ ॥ {ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ, ਪੰਨਾ ੪੭੦} Khasam Shod Doojai Lgay Dubay Say Vanjaareaa || Satgur Hai Bohethaa Virlai Kinai Veechaareaa || Those who forget the Husband Lord and connect to another are drowned merchants. Satguru, the True Guru, is the ship which carries us across but not many have contemplated. ਦੇਵੀ ਦੇਵਾ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਡੋਲਹਿ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਨਾ ॥ {ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ, ਪੰਨਾ ੩੩੨} Dayvee Dayvaa Poojhe Doalhe Paarbrahm Nahee Jaanaa || You wander while worshipping gods and goddesses but you don’t know the Supreme Creator God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) How do you know there is no kirpaan without Dasam Granth? How did 6th Nanak wear 2 kirpaans of Miri and Piri? Kirpan was institutionalized as a kakkar by tenth master. I hope you know that. There was no Sikhi until 1730 or whenever Dasam Granth came? Baba Budda wasn't a Sikh? Lehnaa wasn't a Sikh? Bibi Bhaani wasn't a Sikh? Oh I am sorry, Bibis aren't equal so they aren't Sikhs eh? Sikhs had ten gurus. Sikhism was under evolution and Guru gobind singh gave the final touch wherein khalsa was created. Whose ultimate aim is to discard Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Why do you make up stuff? Why do you always practice thuggery and trickery and deceit? You also said those who don't believe in Dasam Granth should cut hair. What do hair have to do with Dasam Granth? Lets have a live talk on who should cut hair and who should keep them. There is no doubt that ultimate of these gurnindaks is to attack SGGS ji. They are already doing that.It started with kala afghana who equated respect sikhs accord to SGGs ji equivalent to idol worship. Spokesman a mouthpiece of this sect and says that SGGS should not be kept in parkash in rumalas. Hair have everything to do with Dasam Granth. One is baptized with banis from dasam granth. Then instructions are given to keep hair. Dasam granth is the scripture that mandates to keep kakkars. You are lying once again. All he said was that Guru Granth Sahib Ji bir was originally completed at Damdama Sahib Gurduara at Anandpur and not Bathinda. What is wrong with that? How did he know that SGGS was completed at Anandpur sahib and not at Damdama sahib.Does he know the year of completion? Does he know the name of scribe? Did he dream that? All these are ploys to create confusion and mislead ignorant sikhs about their history. Create a doubt in sikh minds. Now reply to my above questions.He is saying many other things as well. That i will reveal after you reply to my questions. Who got proven as a liar many times is not hidden. Bring live talk and we will prove what promotes devi pooja and what promotes Gurmat. Why do you run from live talk? Where do Sindhis keep coming from? Where does SGS mean? Siree Granth Sahib? You now resorting to direct attacks on Guru Granth Sahib Ji? You can only do propaganda. That is what you people are trained for. Gurnindak jeonwala was in rouchetser Gurudwara on sept 27. He was carrying a Hindu Granth with him to mislead sikhs and saying that Dasam granth is a copy of this Hindu Granth. There were some well read sikhs in sangat. They asked him stop lying and show us where is chaupai sahib and ardas in this Hindu Granth. Jeonwala was looking like a fool unable to answer and show anything to sangat. Shameless fellow will not dare to go there again. Liars have no feet to stand upon. I have challenged you to show wherein Dasam granth Hindu deities are worshipped. All you have is an oft repeated reply we will show this there and there. You cann't show that because nothing is there. Cult of missioanries fall in the categories of Sindhi hindus. you follow only SGGS and discard Dasam granth sahib. Hence for you guys khlasa rehat has no meaning.If you still claim to be a khalsa without belief in Jaap sahib you are fooling yourself. Sindhis are much better than you as they do not disrespect Dasam granth sahib. Edited October 8, 2009 by singh2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Jagtar Singh Jachak, is a known die hard Kala Afghana supporter and leader of the anti- Akal Takht lobby. He was honoured by Kala Afghana. He took kala mafghana to Glen Cove Gurudwara, Ny where he was a Granthi. kala afghna said that there was no amrit sanchar done by guru Gobind singh in 1699. Sangat became furious. Jachak apologised for this later but continued his anti panthic activites later on. He unashamedly towes the Kala Afghana/Spokesman line, ridiculing the office of Jathedar and Singh Sahibs by addressing them as pujaris, thieves, robbers and plunders and anti-panthak in his writings. Sikh history says that Damdami Bir was dictated by Guru Gobind Singh with His divine power himself to Bhai Mani Singh at Takht Sri Damdama Sahib. Jachak however has audacity to criticize and condemn this historic incident as farce and claiming this to be a made up story hatched at the behest of certain politicians of Damdama Sahib area. By doing he not only challenged the divinity of Guru Gobind Singh but also created doubts about the history, prestige and position of Damdama Sahib, Damdami Bir and Bhai Mani Singh. This is the face of so called missionaries and their promoters. They are anti sikh to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Khalsa Fauj Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Kirpan was institutionalized as a kakkar by tenth master. I hope you know that. Sikhs had ten gurus. Sikhism was under evolution and Guru gobind singh gave the final touch wherein khalsa was created. It is true that Kirpaan was made into a kakkar during times of 10th Nanak. When did I say this didn't happen? How is wearing kirpaan going against Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Why does one need Dasam Granth to wear kirpaan? There was no Dasam Granth until 1730s so Sikhs didn't wear kirpaans before that? Khalsa Panth was created by Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak laid the foundations and Guru Gobind Singh Ji finalized it by painting the completed house. Guru Gobind Singh Ji didn't create a new house or new panth or new granth. If you ever knew, you would know difference between poet Shyam and Guru Gobind Singh Ji. There is no doubt that ultimate of these gurnindaks is to attack SGGS ji. They are already doing that.It started with kala afghana who equated respect sikhs accord to SGGs ji equivalent to idol worship. Spokesman a mouthpiece of this sect and says that SGGS should not be kept in parkash in rumalas. Hair have everything to do with Dasam Granth. One is baptized with banis from dasam granth. Then instructions are given to keep hair. Dasam granth is the scripture that mandates to keep kakkars. No Sikh attacks Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Where does kala afgana comes from? I told you before, I never read him, I never met him. Stop bringing in third party people. You love third part stuff, don't you? We have full satkaar for Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If kala afgana has issue, take it up with kala afgana, I don't have any links to him. Neither do I have any links to spokesman. I do say this though that we should keep regular rumaalas and not like 10 in winter with blanket and AC in summer. Show me where Dasam Granth says to wear 5 kakkars. How did he know that SGGS was completed at Anandpur sahib and not at Damdama sahib.Does he know the year of completion? Does he know the name of scribe? Did he dream that? All these are ploys to create confusion and mislead ignorant sikhs about their history. Create a doubt in sikh minds. Now reply to my above questions.He is saying many other things as well. That i will reveal after you reply to my questions. Lamba's favorite missionary, Principal Harbhajan Singh did research. He did this research a long time ago and before his death. Why were you people quiet at that time? I don't oppose the theory that Guru Gobind Singh Ji created another biir of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in Bathinda area. Dasam Granth has created more doubts than anyone else. Dasam Granth attacks core philosophies of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Bring live talk and we will discuss. You can only do propaganda. That is what you people are trained for. Gurnindak jeonwala was in rouchetser Gurudwara on sept 27. He was carrying a Hindu Granth with him to mislead sikhs and saying that Dasam granth is a copy of this Hindu Granth. There were some well read sikhs in sangat. They asked him stop lying and show us where is chaupai sahib and ardas in this Hindu Granth. Jeonwala was looking like a fool unable to answer and show anything to sangat. Shameless fellow will not dare to go there again. Liars have no feet to stand upon. I have challenged you to show wherein Dasam granth Hindu deities are worshipped. All you have is an oft repeated reply we will show this there and there. You cann't show that because nothing is there. Cult of missioanries fall in the categories of Sindhi hindus. you follow only SGGS and discard Dasam granth sahib. Hence for you guys khlasa rehat has no meaning.If you still claim to be a khalsa without belief in Jaap sahib you are fooling yourself. Sindhis are much better than you as they do not disrespect Dasam granth sahib. I got no clue what Jeonwala talked about. If I see him at Gurduara, I will ask him. I did ask him about the Pizza thing. He said he never went to that Pizza place because it wasn't proper to discuss loudly in Pizza store. I knew you people would ask Jeonwala to show where is ardas in Hindu granths and where is this or that section in Dasam Granth. Why do you think I never say what Jeonwala says? Jeonwala only sees one side; just like you. He also fails to answer question at times; just like you. Bring live talk and we can discuss who is praised and who isn't. I will answer all of your queries unlike Jeonwala or Kala Afgana. Jagtar Singh Jachak, is a known die hard Kala Afghana supporter and leader of the anti- Akal Takht lobby. He was honoured by Kala Afghana. He took kala mafghana to Glen Cove Gurudwara, Ny where he was a Granthi. kala afghna said that there was no amrit sanchar done by guru Gobind singh in 1699. Sangat became furious. Jachak apologised for this later but continued his anti panthic activites later on. He unashamedly towes the Kala Afghana/Spokesman line, ridiculing the office of Jathedar and Singh Sahibs by addressing them as pujaris, thieves, robbers and plunders and anti-panthak in his writings. Sikh history says that Damdami Bir was dictated by Guru Gobind Singh with His divine power himself to Bhai Mani Singh at Takht Sri Damdama Sahib. Jachak however has audacity to criticize and condemn this historic incident as farce and claiming this to be a made up story hatched at the behest of certain politicians of Damdama Sahib area. By doing he not only challenged the divinity of Guru Gobind Singh but also created doubts about the history, prestige and position of Damdama Sahib, Damdami Bir and Bhai Mani Singh. This is the face of so called missionaries and their promoters. They are anti sikh to the core. You are anti-Sikh to the core. You people have kept Sikhs from getting Gurmat gyan. Due to parchar of your crew, people have become Christians and Hindus. Some have become followers of deras like sacha sauda, nirankaris, noormehlias, etc. You can discuss wit Jachak about Damdami biir. People like you bring up these topics, put fire in them and then complain about crisis. Didn't you already take a cheap shot at Guru Granth Sahib Ji? You disrespect Guru Granth's teachings and message. You go directly in opposition. Bring live talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh2 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Guru gobind singh ji created khalsa in April 1699. We are talking about that Khalsa. For creation of khalsa there is a certain procedure. The most important part of the ceremony is recitation of Five banis. These banis are 1 Japji Sahib from SGGS ji 2 Anand sahib From SGGS ji 3 Jap Sahib From Dasam granth sahib ji 4 Tav parsad swiaye From dasam Granth sahib ji 5 Chaupai sahib from Dasam Granth sahib ji Without recitation of these banis there is no khalsa. It is noted that three banis are from dasam Granth. If one bani is ignored baptism is incomplete. So banis of both granths make one a khalsa. If you ignore Dasam granth as is being propagated by satan followers of kala afghana and missionaries, there is no khalsa. You people are not khalsas any more. stop using this title.You do not deserve this.That is why people like jachak need a hair cut before attacking Dasam granth. This is all started by kala afghana. Now he was caught in a case of rape in Canada and bribery in india , you people want to distance from him. You use his ideology without naming him. Neither do I have any links to spokesman. I do say this though that we should keep regular rumaalas and not like 10 in winter with blanket and AC in summer. Show me where Dasam Granth says to wear 5 kakkars. You have link with jachak and Ghagha whom you advertise here. They are tail waggers of kala afghna. Read below what dasam granth says on sikh rehat Nishane sikhi ein panj kaaf Hargiz na bashid ein panj muaf Signs of sikhi are fives kakkas None is permitted to ignore these Kara Kardo kachh kangha bidan Bila kes hech ast jumlah nishan Know this that without kara,kirpan ,kacch,kangha and Hair all other symbols are of no value Haraf hai kaat ast ein panj kaaf bi danand bavar na goyam khilaf The five symbols i have described Are very important Hukka hazamat halalo haram bachise hina kardaroo saihah faam Hukkah ,shaving, halal and haram are not permissible in sikhism To dye one's hair is like blackening one's face Dasam Granth sahib, asfotak kabit If we have to talk to them then stop being their agent here.. Edited October 9, 2009 by singh2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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