shaheediyan Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 An interesting article from veer Kamalroop Singh, thought I would post it, esp with regards to recent heated debates on Jatherdari: Are commitees a part of Sikhi? The words in Shironmani Gurdwara Parbandak Commitee are peculiar. Three words are from Gurmat, Gurbani, another from English. This clearly reflects the effect of the British administration on Sikhs. Gurmatta is Khalsa maryada, where the whole Panth gathers to make a decision. Votes have never been a part of our way of life, until the inception of the SGPC. Now we find this model all over the world, and Gurdwaras have commitees and votes cause politics, divides and eventually violence. Which Guru made a commitee? The Panth has been run by the Panj, and the Jathedar of the Panj. Not secret whispers and parcels of money delievered to get votes! Even the Akal Takht Jathedar today has to answer to the commitee! This never ever took place in history. Gandhi wrote to the SGPC founders and said as long as you are a religious body and do not deal with secular matters, or ask for Khalsa Raj, then I can support you. SGPC made Sikhi into a religion, when before this time Sikhi was a Dharma of Miri/Piri! It is about time the Panth called for the dissolution of the SGPC, the original declaration of the SGPC was until the institutions in the Panth come into balance, the SGPC will exist: ਸ਼ਿਰੋਮਣੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ, ਪੰਥ ਦੇ ਵਿਚਾਰਵਾਨ ਸਾਰੇ ਜਥੇ ਅਤੇ ਸਮਾਜ, ਦਿਲੋਂ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਗੁਰਦੁਵਾਰਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧ ਹੋਰਨਾਂ ਲਈ ਉਦਾਹਰਣ ਰੂਪ ਹੋਵੇ, ਪਰ ਜਦ ਤੀਕ- ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ (ੳ) ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਿਆਂ ਦੇ ਸੇਵਕ ਗੁਰਮਤ ਦੇ ਪੂਰੇ ਗਾਤਾ, ਵਿਦਾਨ ਅਤੇ ਸਦਾਚਾਰੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦੇ, ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ (ਅ) ਜਦ ਤੀਕ ਉਦਾਸੀ, ਨਿਹੰਗ, ਨਿਰਮਲੇ, ਨਾਮਧਾਰੀ ਆਦਿਕ ਫਿਰਕੇ ਤਅੱਸੁਬ ਛੱਡਕੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਤਾਂਈ ਇੱਕ ਪਿਤਾ ਦੇ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਜਾਣਕੇ ਭ੍ਰਾਤ੍ਰਿਭਾਵ ਦਾ ਵਰਤਾਉ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰਦੇ, When all the samprada are organised it would dissolve. Well the time has come. All the Gurdwara commitees world-wide should be dissolved as they have no basis in Sikh maryada. The qualifications of elected members in the THE SIKH GURDWARAS ACT, 1925 is as follows: Qualifications of elected members.— (1) A person shall not be eligible for election as a member of the Board if such person— (i) is of unsound mind; (ii) is an undischarged insolvent, (iii) is a patit; (iv) is a minister of a Notified Sikh Gurdwara, other than the head minister of the Darbar Sahib, Amritsar, or of one of the four Sikh Takhts specified in clause (ii) of sub-section (1) of section 43. (v) is a paid servant of any Notified Sikh Gurdwara, or of the Board other than a member of the executive committee of the Board. (vi) being a keshadhari Sikh is not a amritdhari; (vii) takes alcoholic drinks; (viii) cannot read and write Gurmukhi.] (2) No person shall be eligible for election as a member of the Board if he is not registered on the electoral roll of any constituency specified in Schedule IV. (3) Notwithstanding anything contained in sub-section (1) no person shall be prevented from standing as a candidate for election as a member of the Board on the ground that he is a patit, but if a person elected is thereafter found under the provisions of section 84 to be a patit his election shall be void. How about knowing Gurbani? Having served the Sikh Panth? Knowing Kirtan? It is under this commitee Sikhi has been distorted, banis cut down, liturgies rearranged, controversies started.............the list is endless...........votes do not lead to truth, the person with the most money and influence win. Sikhi was inherited by the meek and humble, not politicians. In the past, the Jathedari was given due to day and night seva, now a new Jathedar is voted in by those in charge. How can we take such a commitee and Jathedar seriously? Look at how Jathedar Vedanti who should have served us for life was unceremoniously removed! How can a Jathedar be voted in without the blessing of the whole Panth? HOW WILL THIS BE WRITTEN IN OUR HISTORY? Conclusion: Based upon maryada, Gurbani and history; the SGPC and its appointments of 'Jathedars' have no validity or meaning, it is nothing more than a facade. The true guards of the Akal Takht were Saint Soldiers, now they are not even Saints but 'priests'. Who ritually conduct what their ruling masters tell them. This shows that even our 'leaders' are selected by the political masters and are just puppets for those who control them. Well all know what happended to the Masands............... At Anandpur Sahib is the well to this day where they were punished by the Guru. The same fate awaits the Masands of today. They can hide, but one day there will be nowhere to run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 veer ji a huge applause for u , very well said, i m new to this forum and am very pleased to see the presence of Puratan Sikhs of the young generation here who understand things much better. I fail to understand, on one hand a mahant of our own Ravidassi Panth is brutally murdered on the basis that he was doing beadbi and on the other hand a management of a Gurudwara in Poland, correct me if I am wrong, edited the Ardas from Siri Bhagauti, is just let free, no action taken.Assasination is no answer, however shouldnt some lawful action follow.I feel editing the Gurus words is equivalent to blasphemy.Lets take steps to stop this gangsterism in the Panth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) Great article! veer ji a huge applause for u , very well said, i m new to this forum and am very pleased to see the presence of Puratan Sikhs of the young generation here who understand things much better. I fail to understand, on one hand a mahant of our own Ravidassi Panth is brutally murdered on the basis that he was doing beadbi and on the other hand a management of a Gurudwara in Poland, correct me if I am wrong, edited the Ardas from Siri Bhagauti, is just let free, no action taken.Assasination is no answer, however shouldnt some lawful action follow.I feel editing the Gurus words is equivalent to blasphemy.Lets take steps to stop this gangsterism in the Panth. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I'm not sure what connection your post has to do with the original post, but no Singh is going to allow beadbi to take place. I am talking here in general terms not about your specific mahant because I don't know much about what took place. Do you think Shahid Bhai Mehtab Singh who killed Massa Ranghar for his beadbi in Harimandir Sahib bothered to check that the law of the day was on his side? By the by, it is also members of your Ravidassi Panth who paraded on the streets of Britian who hid behind the law demanding a ban on Sikhs carrying kirpans and referred to Guru-given shastar as "killing weapons". It's also members of your Ravidassi Panth who have littered youtube with disgusting videos ridiculing Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Sant Bhindrawale and other mahaan Gursikhs. Regards and welcome to the forum, K. Edited October 16, 2009 by Kaljug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Having heard from many Ravidasis myself, I just want to say that there is a big divide at the moment, most Ravidasis wanting to keep Gurbani as it is and only a minority wanting their own granth. In fact, many Ravidasis have been attending the big Smagams we have seen in the UK recently, and credit due to Sikh Channel, which these Ravidasis are making much use of - as previously they had no idead re the quality of the kathaa and kirtan that existed due to our professionals not frequenting Ravidasi Gurdwarai. I hope this trend continues and we see a big shift of Ravidasis back into the Khalsa Panth where they have always belonged and given sacrifices for (Puratan Khalsa). I also hope that this time, we don't baamanise our brothers as the 'equality' fighting Singh Sabha (Jatt Sabha) did after their reformation/take over over the Panth. I hope to see the Ravidasi, Ramgharia, Singh Sabha, Nanaksar Gurdwara operating with ekta one day, hope lies in our generation. We should always keep our arms open to all as our Gurus did, its only a matter of time before someone takes up the offer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The comparison is very straight our veer pointed out the 'blunders' of the so caleld committee and here i have given a example how 'might is right' , u can let go a committee playing with Gurbani and in case opf differences an old main is shot ruthlessly. Giving examples of Massa Ranghar is absolutely out of picture here. The Beadbi he did was not just beadbi but atrocities. Great article! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I'm not sure what connection your post has to do with the original post, but no Singh is going to allow beadbi to take place. I am talking here in general terms not about your specific mahant because I don't know much about what took place. Do you think Shahid Bhai Mehtab Singh who killed Massa Ranghar for his beadbi in Harimandir Sahib bothered to check that the law of the day was on his side? By the by, it is also members of your Ravidassi Panth who paraded on the streets of Britian who hid behind the law demanding a ban on Sikhs carrying kirpans and referred to Guru-given shastar as "killing weapons". It's also members of your Ravidassi Panth who have littered youtube with disgusting videos ridiculing Guru Gobind Singh Ji, Sant Bhindrawale and other mahaan Gursikhs. Regards and welcome to the forum, K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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