Mr Sardar Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 What are the different types of mutha deek (head butt- prostration) one can do to maharaj. Like some people kiss the ground, some rub nose, so do variety, some do multiple prostrations.. what are the significances and all different types... do you think it is bad just to do metha dek, because maharaj charna is in shabad so walking away without listening to gurbani is alike to idoltary, or would you disagree saying there is alot of phul as one has bowed infront of satguru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Bhai Nand Lal rehitnama says to to matha dekh and 3 phere around Guru Granth Sahib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 guru granth sahib ji is partakh guru, so we dont' just metha tekh to the gian but the actual form as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sardar Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) What would you make of this source of janamsakhi from .. http://www.scribd.com/doc/14387970/BABANANAK page 237-238 Mardānā was always curious my dear Bābā, the Sage, the Great Master ! you have been critical of temples, of mosques of Hindus, of Muslims of sādhus, of siddhās … are you sure your followers will listen to what you preach what you discern and describe ? no, my dear Mardānā I have no illusions humanity is like the tail of a dog it can never be straightened my followers will also be caught in the snares of māyā in the mire of classes and castes they will fight for the gaddīs, for the dērās replete with rites and rituals their houses of worship will be no different from the temples and the mosques they will bother more about dress and diet than Truth and Love they will worship the Granth and will never reflect on what is written in it they will have no time for meditation and introspection for honest and true deeds … but what can I do ? what can we do ? I follow my mission I proclaim the Word of the Lord I live in His will in His truth and love in His rhythm and reason … what has to happen will happen one must follow His order His dictates, His dispensation Edited August 24, 2010 by sarbatdapala 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) mere worship isn't enough, a person must read, reflect, and put teachings into practice. btw, dress and diet are a part of our dharm too, but only a starting point. people get caught up in these and stop progress. from the context we can see that worship of the granth isn't regarded as a negative. look at those who are closest to satguru, those with the highest avastha. Baba Nand Singh ji and other mahapurkhs treated Guru Granth Sahib ji with utmost respect and devotion. They did worship it. But included putting the teachings into practice as a part of that worship. Edited August 24, 2010 by Xylitol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Sarbatdapala: Thats an awesome sakhi! What is the source of it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sardar Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sarbatdapala: Thats an awesome sakhi! What is the source of it? http://www.scribd.com/doc/14387970/BABANANAK page 237-238 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sardar Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) I am not sure between the idea of worhsip vs utter true respect, because in Indian tradation we always had true satkaar for gurdev, gurus and teachers.. while in the west the respect for a teacher is something else our ideas of east and west on respect for knowledge has been different even with the chinese there sensis.. but the most important thing is the teaching, knowledge to be acquired. If a student disrespects there teacher they are bound to fail there exams (except when the teacher forgiving them and still teaching on). It is Guru Gobind singh ji maryada to do akal pooja (no muslim graves or hindu temples) and even when he was dehdhari Guru he is even saying anyone who calls him God will go to the darkest of hells. Satkaar for maharaj saroop picked up from Baba Nand Singh JI... He taught to fold the garment on mahraj saroop and iron as like a wife irons her husbands garments with Love.. so from Nanaksar samprada there is alot of satkaar of maharaj can we say we do Guru Granth Sahib pooja, the word is used for shastars satkaar with nihangs shastar pooja. But then would the satkar for sri dasam granth be on the same level? Edited August 25, 2010 by sarbatdapala 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Thank you ji but i meant from what janam sakhi is this taken from ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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