Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Choices. Choices. One makes an idiot of themself by marrying a dog, and another seeks a life overseas the simplest way he/she can. The simplest way to a life oversees is to earn it. Like regular people do while standing in the lineup sometimes for years at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 If you are having difficulty comprehending things, actually scratch that, You are having difficulty in realising that these marriages were just marriages of convenience, and a tool to get overseas citizenship. Not to start living like a married couple. By that logic the marriage to the dog was probably just a ritual thing and we don't expect the girl to actually co-habitate and have any physical relationship with the Dog, now do we? We shall leave the issue of having a physical relationship with an animal to the Europeans, and their growing number of "exotic zoos" plus they still have a space program..hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 By that logic the marriage to the dog was probably just a ritual thing and we don't expect the girl to actually co-habitate and have any physical relationship with the Dog, now do we? We shall leave the issue of having a physical relationship with an animal to the Europeans, and their growing number of "exotic zoos" plus they still have a space program..hehe No, lets ignore the europeans becasue they have nothing to do with this debate. This is about a thought that a woman marrying a dog, will acheive a fantastic married life. Let's discuss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 The simplest way to a life oversees is to earn it. Like regular people do while standing in the lineup sometimes for years at a time. You have seen people in india lineup? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 No, lets ignore the europeans becasue they have nothing to do with this debate. This is about a thought that a woman marrying a dog, will acheive a fantastic married life. Let's discuss that. No more or less than when people marry their own sisters, cousins, brothers and even fathers (from one case that I read about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 If stopping you from killing leaders, politicians, shopkeepers,blowing up planes, extortion, murder, rap almost daily (hindu and sikh) is oppression then so be it. Ok, what if it's because we ask for our basic human rights? Still the same answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 You have seen people in india lineup? Really? Believe it or not people get to Kainada, Englaaand and Amreeka based on education, family ties and business skills as well. The vast majority perhaps. If you have the skills these countries will want you. Which gets to my second point of not having the skills (because you decided farming was better than engineering) and using other means to get to the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 No more or less than when people marry their own sisters, cousins, brothers and even fathers (from one case that I read about) It's totally different. To a normal person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok, what if it's because we ask for our basic human rights? Still the same answer. Process and procedure. Learn some patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 It's totally different. To a normal person. Comes out of the same desire - the need for happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Believe it or not people get to Kainada, Englaaand and Amreeka based on education, family ties and business skills as well. The vast majority perhaps. If you have the skills these countries will want you. Which gets to my second point of not having the skills (because you decided farming was better than engineering) and using other means to get to the West. some do get there based on merit, but don't be so dumb to think that these are the only people that go. I don't think that the vast majority of Panjabis who have come to UK in the last ten years have come by means of skills. If anything I would say it's the otherway around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Process and procedure. Learn some patience. Why should there be a wait for us becasue we are not hindus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Comes out of the same desire - the need for happiness. yet one is based on ignorance, and the other a cheap alternative to getting foreign citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Why should there be a wait for us becasue we are not hindus? The Hindus are waiting just like you. Its not like our life is much better than yours. Perhaps even worst. Where is the modern, secular nation that was promised to us? Why is the money donated to the temples given to the government, and the money donated at mosques and churches not? The people you term as Hindus are actually commies, leftists and other types that hate everything indic. The situation is so bad that it took the rise of Hindutva to counter it. The running joke in our community is that the more sanskritized the name is of the individual, the bigger the gaddar or traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 The Hindus are waiting just like you. It's not borne out by history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 yet one is based on ignorance, and the other a cheap alternative to getting foreign citizenship. Sham marriages are perhaps way more expensive because the couple has to go the extra mile to hide their tracks, and are fraught with risks. As a person who has represented clients before the boards, tribunals, commissions and courts here in Canada, I can tell you that Sikh couples are treated differently than Hindu couples because of sham marriages. The sikh couples, especially if they get married by sikh rituals, are almost always required to show photos, videos, invitation cards, emails to prove their marriage plus a personal interview. As for both issues whether its superstition, ignorance or greed the desire is always for a better life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 It's not borne out by history. Take a look around at the states in India - nearly every state has a long running boundary, water or language issue with the central government or neighboring states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnPathToSikhi Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 The issue became so huge that the Canadian Government tightened up on the rules. Immigration and dog marriages in india. Maybe you do see a relation. My question was related to the hindu practice of marrying a woman to a tree (in line the original post where the woman is being married to a dog). Also the woman being married to the tree was a former Miss World. And the father in-law a well known politician. We are talking about so called "well educated" class of people who adhere to such practices as the dog marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Immigration and dog marriages in india. Maybe you do see a relation. My question was related to the hindu practice of marrying a woman to a tree (in line the original post where the woman is being married to a dog). Also the woman being married to the tree was a former Miss World. And the father in-law a well known politician. We are talking about so called "well educated" class of people who adhere to such practices as the dog marriage. You want me to explain other peoples rituals and beliefs? BTW, Mr. Bachchan and his family were publicly grilled by mainstream society and media for such an act. I don't here anything about marrying cousins, sisters and brothers by the thousands in your community and why you allow such crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok- we will end this here. I will publicly speak out about the millions of dog marriages in India and you can speak out about the millions of cases of cousin, sister and brother marrying. Agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnPathToSikhi Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 You want me to explain other peoples rituals and beliefs? BTW, Mr. Bachchan and his family were publicly grilled by mainstream society and media for such an act. Not "other people". I am talking about "your very own". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnPathToSikhi Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Agreed? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok- we will end this here. I will publicly speak out about the millions of dog marriages in India and you can speak out about the millions of cases of cousin, sister and brother marrying. Agreed? how can we agree on two completely separate issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Not "other people". I am talking about "your very own". End of discussion for me. I'm getting bored. But please whatever you do don't tie rakhri from your sister in August and then get married in October. And you should give a tight slap to the vichola as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amandeep Hindustani Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 how can we agree on two completely separate issues? Like I said I will condemn the millions of dog marriages taking place in Hindu society, and you can condemn the millions of fake marriages taking place in your community. Or I can look beyond the disgusting, immoral acts and look at the root reason. Both kinds of people are desperate for happiness hence taking steps that are obviously plainly dumb. Just yesterday I went to a marriage and the dulha was a German Sheppard. I tricked the Dulha with a treat and lead him out of the marriage hall and put an end to it. No dog marriages here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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