Atheist extremism

[sabre]

We often hear of religious extremists but I think we should shine a spotlight on the atheist extremists also because those without religion or religious commandments have killed more people on earth and committed more acts of death and destruction via illegal invasions and wars than any other ideology in the 20th and 21st centuries.

ie pol pot, stalin, hitler, most of present and past secular atheist western governments and their atheist bankster controlled political leaders, etc

Highest prison population in western countries are made up of atheists.

[SAadmin]

I agree atheist extremism is as dangerous than religious extremism. We need to realize the root where all this coming from, both atheist and religious extremism comes from one's ego- conditioned mind which is relentless belief that something is wrong - I must fix it through extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride. Throw it previous predecessors following/ certain organized ideology be it religious or 'ism', speeches/ out of context scriptural/code of conducts interpretations amplifies the feeling of extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride.

[kdsingh80]

Aprt from communist Atheists , other atheists don't kill people for not being Atheist

[Guest KP (Atheist)]

We often hear of religious extremists but I think we should shine a spotlight on the atheist extremists also because those without religion or religious commandments have killed more people on earth and committed more acts of death and destruction via illegal invasions and wars than any other ideology in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Really? Can we have some evidence to support this statement?

ie pol pot, stalin, hitler, most of present and past secular atheist western governments and their atheist bankster controlled political leaders, etc

Pol Pot beliefs had nothing to do with his political movement. So, President Bush Invaded Iraq, that makes all Christians invaders and conquerors. Jarnail Singh Bindherwala, was he not a Sikh and also ordered his cronies to do some killing? 

Stalin was not an Atheist, he supported the Russian Orthodox church and bought them back into the political fold after Lenin withdrew them.

Hitler - He was a Christian, a Catholic. Baptised and supported the Vatican. You can easily find this information on the net.  

Highest prison population in western countries are made up of atheists.

Really? Looking at the Statistics for the UK, June 2014. Prison population via religion:

Total	85,509
All Christian	42,706
Anglican	16873
Free Church	1021
Roman Catholic	15535
Other Christian	9277
Muslim	12106
Hindu	447
Sikh	732
Buddhist	1629
Jewish	319
Other religious group	1565
Non recognised	28
No religion	25619
Not recorded	358

 

Start by backing your statements via facts.

[Guest KP (Atheist)]

On 10/01/2016 at 6:32 PM, kdsingh80 said:

Aprt from communist Atheists , other atheists don't kill people for not being Atheist

Communist Atheist? What is a communist Atheist? 

In Russia we had Christian communist and they did majority of the killings.  The British empire, strongly influenced by Church of England, they conquered in the name of God. Destroyed cultures on there way.   

[Guest KP (Atheist)]

On 10/01/2016 at 4:55 PM, N30 S!NGH said:

I agree atheist extremism is as dangerous than religious extremism. We need to realize the root where all this coming from, both atheist and religious extremism comes from one's ego- conditioned mind which is relentless belief that something is wrong - I must fix it through extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride. Throw it previous predecessors following/ certain organized ideology be it religious or 'ism', speeches/ out of context scriptural/code of conducts interpretations amplifies the feeling of extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride.

Atheist extremism? Can you please explain this more detail and give example where has been dangerous. Religious extremism will fight on the banner of their religion and cause e.g. Isis. Name an Atheist extremist organisation, fighting on a global scale? fighting in the name of Atheist.   

[Guest KP (Atheist)]

On 10/01/2016 at 4:08 PM, sabre said:

We often hear of religious extremists but I think we should shine a spotlight on the atheist extremists also because those without religion or religious commandments have killed more people on earth and committed more acts of death and destruction via illegal invasions and wars than any other ideology in the 20th and 21st centuries.

ie pol pot, stalin, hitler, most of present and past secular atheist western governments and their atheist bankster controlled political leaders, etc

Highest prison population in western countries are made up of atheists.

We often hear of religious extremists but I think we should shine a spotlight on the atheist extremists also because those without religion or religious commandments have killed more people on earth and committed more acts of death and destruction via illegal invasions and wars than any other ideology in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Really? Can we have some evidence to support this statement?

ie pol pot, stalin, hitler, most of present and past secular atheist western governments and their atheist bankster controlled political leaders, etc

Pol Pot beliefs had nothing to do with his political movement. So, President Bush Invaded Iraq, that makes all Christians invaders and conquerors. Jarnail Singh Bindherwala, was he not a Sikh and also ordered his cronies to do some killing? 

Stalin was not an Atheist, he supported the Russian Orthodox church and bought them back into the political fold after Lenin withdrew them.

Hitler - He was a Christian, a Catholic. Baptised and supported the Vatican. You can easily find this information on the net.  

Highest prison population in western countries are made up of atheists.

Really? Looking at the Statistics for the UK, June 2014. Prison population via religion:

Total	85,509
All Christian	42,706
Anglican	16873
Free Church	1021
Roman Catholic	15535
Other Christian	9277
Muslim	12106
Hindu	447
Sikh	732
Buddhist	1629
Jewish	319
Other religious group	1565
Non recognised	28
No religion	25619
Not recorded	358

 

Start by backing your statements via facts.

[BhagatSingh]

May I refer you to Jordan Peterson?

Start at 10:35, watch until the point he says "Rationality can go both ways"

 

 

[kdsingh80]

13 hours ago, Guest KP (Atheist) said:

Communist Atheist? What is a communist Atheist? 

In Russia we had Christian communist and they did majority of the killings.  The British empire, strongly influenced by Church of England, they conquered in the name of God. Destroyed cultures on there way.   

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Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922-1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet policy, based on the ideology of Marxism–Leninism, made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism–Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs.^[1]

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,^[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.^[4][5] The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies, has been estimated to range between 12-20 million.^[6][7][8]

Religious beliefs and practices persisted among the majority of the population,^[4] in the domestic and private spheres but also in the scattered public spaces allowed by a state that recognized its failure to eradicate religion and the political dangers of an unrelenting culture war.^[2][9]

 

Contents

• 1 Official Soviet stance
• 2 Soviet tactics
• 3 Anti-religious campaign 1917–1921
• 4 Anti-religious campaign 1921–1928
• 5 Anti-religious campaign 1928–1941
• 6 World War II rapprochement
• 7 Postwar era
• 8 Resumption of anti-religious campaign
• 9 1964–1970s
• 10 Renewal of persecution in 1970s
• 11 Penetration of churches by Soviet secret services
• 12 Glasnost
• 13 See also
• 14 References
• 15 Bibliography
• 16 External links

 

Official Soviet stance

See also: Soviet anti-religious legislation and Marxist–Leninist atheism

The Soviet regime had an ostensible commitment to the complete annihilation of religious institutions and ideas.^[10] Militant atheism was central to the ideology of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union^[11] and a high priority of all Soviet leaders.^[3] Convinced atheists were considered to be more virtuous individuals than those of religious belief.^[3]

The state established atheism as the only scientific truth.^{[12][13][14][15][16][17][unreliable source?]} Soviet authorities forbade the criticism of atheism or of the state's anti-religious policies; such criticism could lead to forced retirement, arrest and/or imprisonment.^[18][19][20]

Soviet law never officially outlawed the holding of religious views, and the various Soviet Constitutions always guaranteed the right to believe. However, since Marxist ideology as interpreted by Lenin^[21] and by his successors regarded religion as an obstacle to the construction of a communist society, putting an end to all religion (and replacing it with atheism^[22]) became a fundamentally important ideological goal of the Soviet state. The persecution of religion took place officially through many legal measures designed to hamper religious activities, through a large volume of anti-religious propaganda, through education, and through various other^[which?] means. In tandem with official persecution, many accompanying secret instructions remained unofficial.^{[citation needed]} In practice the state also sought to control religious bodies and to interfere with them, with the ultimate goal of making them disappear.^[22] To this effect, the state sought to control the activities of the leaders of the different religious communities.^[10]

Official Communist Party documents often disguised official persecution under euphemisms such as the "struggle against bourgeois ideology", the "dissemination of materialist ideology", etc.^{[citation needed]} The government often rejected the principle of treating all religious believers as public enemies,^[21] partly due to pragmatic considerations (given the large number of people adhering to a faith) and also partly from the belief that the number of the believers included many loyal Soviet citizens whom the authorities ought to convince to become atheists rather than attack outright.

Religious believers found themselves always subject to anti-religious propaganda and to legislation that restricted religious practice. They frequently suffered restrictions within Soviet society. Rarely, however, did the Soviet state officially ever subject them to arrest, imprisonment or death simply for having holding beliefs. Instead, the methods of persecution represented a reaction to the perception (real or imagined) of their resistance to the state's broader campaign against religion.^[23]

The campaign was designed^{[by whom?]} to disseminate atheism, and the acts of violence and terror tactics deployed, while almost always officially invoked on the basis of perceived resistance to the state, aimed in the larger scheme not simply to dampen opposition, but to further assist in the suppression of religion in order to disseminate atheism.^[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Does this sound any christian to you?