Amrit di daat

[Trimandeep Singh]

Bhai sahib Ji, I would suggest you follow Soulfinder's advice. Please keep these things a secret. You can ask about these things to any kamai waala gurmukh you know. 

Bhul chuk maaf 

Trimandeep Singh 

[Trimandeep Singh]

Guest Shaheed Ji, one thing concerns me. You asked if it is okay to take Amrit from a jatha who has a little different Rehat than that you want to follow. From experience of gursikhs, I would say that whatever Rehat that the Panj Pyaare commanded you to keep, you should accept it as sat bachan, even if it doesn't fall in line with the Maryada you want to follow.

Eg: At AKJ, they tell you Keski as a Kakkar in place of kesh. So, suppose you are more inclined towards taksaal then you would believe Kesh as a Kakaar. But still you would have to follow Rehat given by Panj no matter what. You can't separate keski from your body just like a Kirpan.

I didn't want to touch any jathebandi differences here. I was just concerned if you follow something slightly different than what Panj instructed you at Amrit Sanchaar.

Bhul chuk maaf 

Trimandeep Singh 

[paapiman]

9 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

Eg: At AKJ, they tell you Keski as a Kakkar in place of kesh. So, suppose you are more inclined towards taksaal then you would believe Kesh as a Kakaar. But still you would have to follow Rehat given by Panj no matter what. You can't separate keski from your body just like a Kirpan.

Another possible option is to take Amrit again from a different Samprada/Jathebandi. 

So for example, if the Panj Pyare instruct you to not eat meat and eggs. You follow that for sometime, but after a certain while, you feel that you cannot manage without eating meat or eggs. In this case, you should take Amrit again from Nihangs or Hazuriye Singhs, as for them, consumption of Halal (or Kosher) meat is a cardinal sin.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Guest Shaheed]

11 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

Guest Shaheed Ji, one thing concerns me. You asked if it is okay to take Amrit from a jatha who has a little different Rehat than that you want to follow. From experience of gursikhs, I would say that whatever Rehat that the Panj Pyaare commanded you to keep, you should accept it as sat bachan, even if it doesn't fall in line with the Maryada you want to follow.

Eg: At AKJ, they tell you Keski as a Kakkar in place of kesh. So, suppose you are more inclined towards taksaal then you would believe Kesh as a Kakaar. But still you would have to follow Rehat given by Panj no matter what. You can't separate keski from your body just like a Kirpan.

I didn't want to touch any jathebandi differences here. I was just concerned if you follow something slightly different than what Panj instructed you at Amrit Sanchaar.

Bhul chuk maaf 

Trimandeep Singh 

 

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Another possible option is to take Amrit again from a different Samprada/Jathebandi. 

So for example, if the Panj Pyare instruct you to not eat meat and eggs. You follow that for sometime, but after a certain while, you feel that you cannot manage without eating meat or eggs. In this case, you should take Amrit again from Nihangs or Hazuriye Singhs, as for them, consumption of Halal (or Kosher) meat is a cardinal sin.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

Thank you for the advice Sangat Ji.

The only difference between the Rehat Maryada i wanted and the Rehat Maryada i received is on meat.

I am a vegetarian but the Panj Pyare said we are allowed to eat meat.So i am still following the Rehat Maryada given by Panj Pyare right?

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, Guest Shaheed said:

I am a vegetarian but the Panj Pyare said we are allowed to eat meat.So i am still following the Rehat Maryada given by Panj Pyare right?

Daas is almost sure that the Panj Pyare did not ORDER you to eat meat.

It's good that you are a vegetarian. Gurmat does not encourage meat-eating. Bhagats (mentioned in Gurbani) clearly asked Sri Waheguru jee for lacto-vegetarian foods.

Jhatka meat can be consumed for survival purposes. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[mahanpaapi]

On 5/16/2021 at 2:52 AM, Guest Shaheed said:

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

Sangat ji, i have been having another experience.I keep smelling degh even though i am in my house and there is no degh.What does this mean?

Bhul Chuk Maf ">

most likely Sri Guru Maharaj Ji would like you to do degh Bhog seva to HIM before 12 pm, and enjoy Blessed sheatprasad!

[Trimandeep Singh]

18 hours ago, paapiman said:

Another possible option is to take Amrit again from a different Samprada/Jathebandi. 

So for example, if the Panj Pyare instruct you to not eat meat and eggs. You follow that for sometime, but after a certain while, you feel that you cannot manage without eating meat or eggs. In this case, you should take Amrit again from Nihangs or Hazuriye Singhs, as for them, consumption of Halal (or Kosher) meat is a cardinal sin.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Bhai sahib I had written my post just with the concern that Guest Shaheed doesn't follow anything that opposes the Maryada given by Panj.

The opinion given by you seems non gurmat. If one can't follow the Maryada given by Panj and goes to take Amrit at Amrit Sanchaar of any other jatha, then it is purely Manmat. You are clearly ignoring and showing your back to the Panj, from whom you took Amrit. Before taking Amrit, you are asked to offer your head and hence you can't do anything opposite to the Rehat given by Panj. Though Panth Maryada allows consumption of jhatka but if the Panj instructed you to not eat ANY type of meat then accept it as Satbachan and follow it with Tan Mann Dhan.

Taking your opinion, if one doesn't want to do Amrit Vela then he may again go to take Amrit from any other Gurudwara whose Panj don't mention Amrit Vela as a MANDATORY Rehat.

 

Now, replying to Guest Shaheed Ji. Veerji if the Panj ordered you or commanded you to ear meat like once a month or after any other certain period, then you should surely follow their hukam. But if they only said that you are 'allowed' to eat jhatka but don't consider it mandatory, then you are surely not violating their hukam by being vegetarian.

Bhul chuk maaf 

Trimandeep Singh 

[Guest Shaheed]

4 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

Bhai sahib I had written my post just with the concern that Guest Shaheed doesn't follow anything that opposes the Maryada given by Panj.

The opinion given by you seems non gurmat. If one can't follow the Maryada given by Panj and goes to take Amrit at Amrit Sanchaar of any other jatha, then it is purely Manmat. You are clearly ignoring and showing your back to the Panj, from whom you took Amrit. Before taking Amrit, you are asked to offer your head and hence you can't do anything opposite to the Rehat given by Panj. Though Panth Maryada allows consumption of jhatka but if the Panj instructed you to not eat ANY type of meat then accept it as Satbachan and follow it with Tan Mann Dhan.

Taking your opinion, if one doesn't want to do Amrit Vela then he may again go to take Amrit from any other Gurudwara whose Panj don't mention Amrit Vela as a MANDATORY Rehat.

 

Now, replying to Guest Shaheed Ji. Veerji if the Panj ordered you or commanded you to ear meat like once a month or after any other certain period, then you should surely follow their hukam. But if they only said that you are 'allowed' to eat jhatka but don't consider it mandatory, then you are surely not violating their hukam by being vegetarian.

Bhul chuk maaf 

Trimandeep Singh 

Hanji.They just said we are allowed to eat meat or can be vegetarian also.They just said it is up to the individual.

 

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, Guest Shaheed said:

Hanji.They just said we are allowed to eat meat or can be vegetarian also.They just said it is up to the individual.

 

wjkk wjkf

Please do stay Lacto-vegetarian brother.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

Now, replying to Guest Shaheed Ji. Veerji if the Panj ordered you or commanded you to ear meat like once a month or after any other certain period, then you should surely follow their hukam

Most likely, no Panj Pyare (associated with any Jathebandi) will COMMAND you to eat meat.

Have you come across any such Jathebandi?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

. If one can't follow the Maryada given by Panj and goes to take Amrit at Amrit Sanchaar of any other jatha, then it is purely Manmat.

What if, he/she initially thinks that they can follow the Marayada given by the Panj (associated with a particular Jathebandi), but then is unable to do so?

We should NOT apply very high standards to ordinary Amritdhari Sikhs. Please remember that the Gurmat Marg is a Sehaj Marg, for most people.

 

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਬਿਲੋਵਨਾ ਬਿਲੋਵਹੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਭਾਈ ॥

ਸਹਜਿ ਬਿਲੋਵਹੁ ਜੈਸੇ ਤਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

13 hours ago, Trimandeep Singh said:

Taking your opinion, if one doesn't want to do Amrit Vela then he may again go to take Amrit from any other Gurudwara whose Panj don't mention Amrit Vela as a MANDATORY Rehat.

 

We cannot compare Amrtivela with the Meat (Jhatka) or Sukha issue.

It is crystal clear from Gurbani that Amritvela is THE BEST time (for most people) for Naam Simran.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

On 3/23/2021 at 11:23 AM, paapiman said:

Avoid Pride of the following:

• Raag
• Maal (Wealth)
• Jaat (Caste/Race)
• Joban (Youth)
• Roop (Physical beauty)

 

Daas apologizes to the Sangat.

The First item in the list above should be Raaj, not Raag

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