tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 I've got it at home, but can someone give me a quick meaning of the term 'jaapai' as used in Japuji Sahib, I've blanked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 i'm assuming u mean from 'kach pakai othai paee, nanak gaeaa jaapai jai' ? that's the only line i can think of. i always assumed that in that context it meant sort of 'to know'/'to realise'/'to find out' ... that makes sense... perhaps coming from the same sanskriti root as 'jaannaa' 'to know' (as opposed to 'jaanaa' 'to go' - because 'gaeaa' is there to mean that) but i could be completely wrong. :? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 i just searched it on sikhitothemax & got: The ripe and the unripe, the good and the bad, shall there be judged. O Nanak, when you go home, you will see this. ||34|| which seems to agree with what i was saying... but then that might not be a good thing, considering the source! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 No, it was 'ant n jaapai kita aakaar'...etc As regards the sankritic root, jaanae is used a lot in preceding pauris and I want to know if there is a distinctive meaning to jaapai. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 there is also 'gavai ko jaapai disaa dur' 'to know' works in all of the lines, but i don't know about jaanae / jaapai. maybe lalleshvari can answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 In the case of 'gaavai' the jaapai seems to be questionnable or subjective understanding, rather than jnaan as such? Another explanation of the word I have is 'possible understanding/perhaps'...I'll check Shackle tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 ok be interesting to find out... also, could u check how 'bujai' or 'bujahee' is different from jaanae & jaapai. (i'm assuming it's more to do with the realisation or 'learning' of something rather than knowing it) also, i'm not sure how well 'possible understanding' would fit into 'kach pakai othai paee, nanak gaeaa jaapai jaee'. the more i think about it the more confused i get! :? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 sorted, I've looked up shackle and mahankosh Yes, not too different to what we were getting at; according to shackle it's 'to be known, to become known or to appear', which explains gavai ko jaapai disai door (as 'appears'), this 'appears' also fits pauri 34 you quoted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 what about jaanae?... is that only 'to be known' & not 'to become known' etc? or something different? ditto with bujhaa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 guv, more paat and simran and you'll intuitively understand, waheguru (i.e. I can't be bothered...give me a couple of hours to muster the energy - intensive tennis session this afternoon has left me all morrisey) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 haha... safe btw, did u win? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 6-1 6-2 To me of course. Compassion forced me to allow a couple of games, let the opponent walk off the court with a little dignity and masculinity in an otherwise one-way trouncing... if only henman was more of a singh, less a hugh grant...'it's match point to me...oh..erm agh...I mean...yes.. urm..agh..I'm rubbish really...oops' until he stops thinking english he'll never win anything. He needs that dumb opportunistic arrogance of your average sikhi camp organiser if he's to get anywhere in tennis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 intensive tennis session this afternoon has left me all morrisey) I thought i was the only one have craze for playing tennis... found a tennis mate finally :wink: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 6-1 6-2 To me of course. of course He needs that dumb opportunistic arrogance of your average sikhi camp organiser if he's to get anywhere in tennis. oooooo... is that a cheap shot at me? :P found a tennis mate finally :wink: n3o likes u... run jt, run!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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