Cksinghani Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh todays programme at Wolverhampton Gudwara Sedgley St was amazing there was sooooooooooooooooooooo ohmy.gif much sangat it was a beautiful site. And good news for those who were not able to make it to todays programme you can see the pictures which are online on the gurdwaras website. Im not usually the one to do PR for sites but you gotta see these pics and theres loads of them. The website says that kirtan will be uploaded sooon youv gotta listen to it sangat The site to go to is gurdarbar.com in the media section you gotta check it out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi.k Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I was at the programme today and I think it was pretty good too. The only downside to it was the fact that Baba Ranjit Singh turned up so late. As it was a warm day and a lot of Sangat turned up one woman near me fainted, due to the hall being full and long queues it was next to impossible to get her help and downstairs. Made me wonder what first aid arrangements are made when events like today’s take place. On the whole it was a good programme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 is it the amount of sangat which creeates this buzz - or is it the sant i wonder? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Goddess Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 I think its cos of the Singhs with him, all look wicked together, I dunno tho, its a good thing people are coming to sangat I suppose, whatever the excuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 i agree with dhan dhan kali mata 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSM Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 he is very good , i;ve seen him at Guru Nanak Gurudawara smethwick high street, his aim is to make people take amrit after his 2-3 days of katha and kirtan (there were 70 people may be more who took amrit at smethwick ) waheguru His method of explanation is simple and affective , uses simple punjabi so all can understand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SAdmin Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Can we have his recording online? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 a lot of people take amrit in a hype - yet afterwards... not detracting from the sant - everyone is better than me just trying to see long term implications... then again hukamai andar sabh ko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 completely agree with challenge-everything.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSM Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I agree that amrit is not to be taken lightly , it should be the persons way of life he also explains that in his katha , that amrit is to keep and once taken the person should visit the Gurudawara regularly , read and practice the bani, and if there is something inside you that is telling you to take amrit then take it In his katha he also explains that if 100 people take amrit out of the hundred probably 70 people will keep amrit 30 will resort back to their old habits , But says 70 is better than nothing , But if the person follows the rehit properly and applies it to their normal life , no way can the amrit be broken . Last couple of days his live katha was broadcast on Sky channel 926 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeGetSome Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Alot of people took amrit in the same way after hearing bindhranwale ji's katha, would you say they just took it in hype also? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Goddess Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 i agree with dhan dhan kali mata *blesses neo with a brand new whip* :twisted: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 yes i would day a lot of people took amirt in a hype from people like sant jarnail singh baba mann singh. This doesnt really comments on those people but comments more on the hype if u know wot i mean? i'm being a sant basher just trying to analyse the situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSM Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 There are alot of people who call them sants the genuine ones you can spot a mile off , plus they will not go on an ego trip and say " hey sangat i'm a sant please follow me " , i don't know whether you have seen him do the Katha , its not about being a Sant or a Baba , i believe thats the mistake a lot of people make , its about what the person is preaching . If the person is preaching the truth in this case , from siri guru granth sahib and following the rehit themselves i don't think it is a bad thing Personally my belief is that call the person what you like , if the person is genuine and in this case preaching about sikhism from siri guru granth sahib then its a good thing , if the person is wrongly preaching then i agree with challenge_everything , give the person a good bashing / expose the person . We should try and learn from them and motivate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nama Singh Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 VJKK VJKF FULL recordings from Wolverhampton thanks to EktaOne.com and GurDarbar.com (the official Gurdwara website) Monday 26th June http://www.ektaone.com/audio/santbabaranji...rian_260605.mp3 Monday 27th June http://www.ektaone.com/audio/santbabaranji...rian_270605.mp3 More photos online too from Monday by going to: http://www.ektaone.com/PHOTOS/2005/santbab...jitsingh270605/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks Nama Singh Ji, May Vahiguroo bless you with more seva ..Vahiguroo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 In the case of baba ranjit singh - i suppose time will tell or gurbani 'jinaa saas giraas naa visre har nama man mant, dhan se sei nanaka pooran soee sant.' but at the end of the day anyone doing parchaar of gurmat is a plus. I think if ranjit singh knew english it would have been so much more beneficial to the panth, he's young maybe he will learn. May guru bless all his parchaaraks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeGetSome Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I think hype can be a good thing, can you imagine the amount of hype there was in Anandpur when Guru Gobind Singh Ji first initiated Amrit and created the Khalsa. On that day people must have came from all types of backgrounds and taken their Amrit, most likely without preparing themselves for it. In comparison with what Baba Ranjit Singh is doing is exactly the same, whether people take it out of hype or have prepared themselves for it is exactly the same in my eyes, in both situations the individual has become inspired in some way to become amrit dari, one step towards guru ji and he'll take a 1000 towards you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 comparing baba ranjit singh with guru gobind singh doesnt seem plausible to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nama Singh Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 http://www.ektaone.com/video/santbabaranji...sbrs_260605.wmv VIDEO ONLINE FROM SUNDAY 26TH JUNE AT SEDGLEY ST GURDWARA, WOLVERHAMPTON. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeGetSome Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I'm not comparing the people together nor saying they are only the same level but only their act and intent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 so baba ranjit singh has the same intent as guru gobind singh? sorry for seeming pedantic but people are getting carried away with certain sant lehars and they have done throughout the centuries, better not to relly on a sant who is the flavour of the month now and won't be 2moro - better to do gursikhi parchaar ourselves... ghar ghar andar dharamsaal - let each house be a beacon of dharma as bhai gurdas said! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cksinghani Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 hi everyone just wanted to tell everyone to check this link out really cool the way the layout is and the vids are really quick too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cksinghani Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 sorry forgot the link stupid me Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh kirtan has now been updated on www.gurdarbar.com Just click on the Media section and go to Movies On the 12th of July at from 7:30 pm onwards the final programme of baba ji's tour will be at Sedgley Street Gurdwara in Wolverhampton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSM Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 I don't see what the fuss is all about , if no one has heard the katha Bhai Ranjeet Singh does , then we should listen to it . All his programs are broadcasted on SKY Digital Channle 926 ( Amrit Bani) starting about 8.pm ( worth listening to) The gian he did at Manchester , he mentioned that he is not a Sant but a Sikh whose aim is to make people take amrit. He even tells the sangat not to bow down to him and only bow down to sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji The Gian he did yesterday , he mentioned about money . Alot of people don't know why are spreading rumours that he has come here to collect money , but ( i am not making this up and heard it on Sky channel 926) Bhai Ranjeet Singh said he has never asked for money nor is he in it for the money. The money raised is what people have given because they want to . He also mentions that money should be given to good causes , i.e. the poor and needy and most important of all do seva yourself , go and help the poor yourself so that you know the money you have given is being spent for the right cause. He also mentions that people are spreading bad rumours without knowing the facts and that if these people can prove to him that he is in it for the money , then Bhai Ranjeet Singh would stop doing Gian and Katha There are alot of sceptics out there if you don't like or haven't listened to his Katha then stop spreading bad rumours, we should focus on the good points and act on them . If we don't like his style and katha , then simple, don't listen to him . Following also sums it up ( taken from sikh history web site) http://www.sikh-history.com/cgi-bin/Ultima...ic;f=1;t=001930 I was at the Leeds two divaans. All I saw was a person who had great nimarta, very deep knowledge, a person whose every word was charged with ras. Take a normal giyani or a kirtania and there are many that come over from India, if there is no ras, if there is no ‘kiran’ of naam then there is no anand. Gurbani is gurbani there is no argument here, but from whose atma it is spoken from has a great effect upon who is listening. When Baba ji was doing viakhia you could hear a pin drop, the sangat was hanging on every word, why ? Because Babaji has kumai and that kumai of naam shines through every word they utter. I could stand up on stage and sing my baysura kirtan all day, who will listen to me ??? This is the kirpa of AkalPurkh upon his Sants mahapurkhs, because it is the duty of a sant to japaa naam. As Kabir Ji has said kabeer saevaa ko dhue bhalae eaek sa(n)th eik raam || raam j dhaathaa mukath ko sa(n)th japaavai naam ||164|| It is great to do sewa of both the sant and God. For only God can give you mukhti and the sant urges/helps to recite His naam. All I saw was a person who had a clean white chola on with a clean white hazuria and a clean white dastaar. Okay, the cloth may have been rashami but so what ? Did not Guru Gobind Singh Ji give out awards to his Sikhs who would come to him with the best tied dastaar. Guru Sahib Ji ALWAYS wanted best for his Sikhs. Baba Ji himself said on a number of occasions that there are those Baba’s who spoil the reputation for all of them and I agree there are many of those types who will swindle the sangat and we must be on our guard at all times, BUT we must not paint all mahapursh with the same brush and we must not be so cynical and blasé about it, for that person will not learn and progress on gurmats path. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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