desi*chick Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 um...i wanna no y girls and guys are treated differently in sikhism relgion?? :? k this is what i mean..i mean like guys can go out to there friends house n go out ne wher and der not questioned and allow to go ne wher...when gals step 1 foot out thier house...dey r asked 12 questions...like wher u goin n stuff....y dun guys get questioned...y dun they trust gals....guys can do ne thin they want n gurlz cant...even if gals do sumthin...ppl talk abut the gurll ...YY???.....in white or black race...gals n guys treated the same...y not in ours... :? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogroup singh Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 um...i wanna no y girls and guys are treated differently in sikhism relgion?? :? Good question but not clear. Would you mind giving some more information about it? How? Where? Please, write in detail and we wil try our best to anwser your question. Also check this thread. http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...topic.php?t=329 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Hellow Desichick, First of all welcome to this site. Here you can get all the answers for ur questions. First of all, there is misconception there you got. Punjabi Gals and Guys get treated differenly not equaly because of the punjabi culture it has nothing to do with sikh relegion. As our sikh scriptures are concerned this is what our gurus tell us in sri guru granth sahib ji about woman --------------- In praise of women. "We are born of woman, we are conceived in the womb of woman, we are engaged and married to woman. We make friendship with woman and the lineage continued because of woman. When one woman dies, we take another one, we are bound with the world through woman. Why should we talk ill of her, who gives birth to kings? The woman is born from woman; there is none without her. Only the One True Lord is without woman" (Guru Nanak Dev, Var Asa, pg. 473) Marriage is an equal partnership of love and sharing between husband and wife. "They are not said to be husband and wife, who merely sit together. Rather they alone are called husband and wife, who have one soul in two bodies." (Guru Amar Das, Pauri, pg. 788) Women have an equal right to participate in the congregation. "Come my sisters and dear comrades! Clasp me in thine embrace. Meeting together, let us tell the tales of our Omnipotent Spouse (God). In the True Lord are all merits, in us all demerits." (Guru Nanak Dev, Sri Rag, pg. 17) God is the husband and we are all his brides. "The spouse is but One and all others are His brides. The false bride assumes many religious garbs. When the Lord stops her going into another's home, then is she summoned into her Lord's mansion without any let and hindrance. She is adorned with the Name and is dear to her True Lord. She alone is the true bride and the Lord lends her His support." (Guru Nanak Dev, Ramkali, pg. 933) God is our Mother as well as our Father. "Thou O Lord, art my Father and Thou my Mother. Thou art the Giver of peace to my soul and very life." (Guru Arjan Dev, Bhairo, pg. 1144) Faithfulness to ones spouse is stressed. "The blind-man abandons the wife of his home, and has an affair with another's woman. He is like the parrot, who is pleased to see the simbal tree, but at last dies clinging to it." (Bhagat Nam Dev, Bhairo, pg. 1165) The rape and brutalities committed against women by the Mughal invader Babar condemned. "Modesty and righteousness both have vanished and falsehood moves about as the leader, O Lalo. The function of the Qazis and the Brahmins is over and the Satan now reads the marriage rites (rape). The Muslim women read the Quran and in suffering call upon God, O Lalo. The Hindu women of high cast and others of low caste, may also be put in the same account, O Lalo." (Guru Nanak Dev, Tilang, pg. 722) The practice of women burning themselves on their husband's funeral pyre (sati) condemned. "They cannot be called satis, who burn themselves with their dead husbands. They can only be called satis, if they bear the shock of separation. They may also be known as satis, who live with character and contentment and always show veneration to their husbands by remembering them." (Guru Amar Das, Var Suhi, pg. 787) The ritual of dowry so prevalent in Indian society condemned. "Any other dowry, which the perverse place for show, that is false pride and worthless gilding. O' my Father! give me the Name of Lord God as a gift and dowry." (Guru Ram Das, Sri Rag, pg. 79) On a side note: Have u expereince any in-equality in ur life time??? have you tried researching about sikh relegion?? have u tried to fight over in-equalities you been dealing with?? Please tell us more in depth in-equality you been dealing with?? .. we are all here to help each other. There are chardi-kalah sikh woman here to help you as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 this has nothin to do with religion - the fact is that most asian families are more worried about their daughters then their sons - sons may be able to handle themselves better in any trouble in the streets - and girls may not - it is only right for a parent to ask where their son/daughter is going, yes u should give ur children freedom and not ask about their every move... but when strict parents impose such an enviroment on their kids they blame the religion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 all comes done to punjabi culture e.g. women working inda kitchen, the menz just going for glassiyah, lolz nothin to do wiv sikhism 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 i agree with everyone here. this has got nuttin to do with religion. its just our panjabi cluture and tradition that girls stay at home, and learn how to cook and stuff. i mean personally i don't see anything wrong with going out once in a while, so long as you don't take advantage of your parents trust :cry: and do sumthing silly but i think its true that gals do have it harder than guys... NOT FAIR :x 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 wot r u lot chattin about firstly its panjabi culture not sikhism and secondly boys and girls get waaaaaaaaay too much freedom here in uk sikh girls have a bad reputaiton for being loose and easy, partying and drinkin all the time....whilest the muslim girls have to stay at home or whatever.....where r the parents? and then the sikh guys with they beer in one hand, drivin the souped up ford with the other hand, bhangra being blasted out of the boombox lol....where r the parents? modern sikhs get WAAAAAAAY too much freedom!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaur1699 Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 um...i wanna no y girls and guys are treated differently in sikhism relgion?? :? k this is what i mean..i mean like guys can go out to there friends house n go out ne wher and der not questioned and allow to go ne wher...when gals step 1 foot out thier house...dey r asked 12 questions...like wher u goin n stuff....y dun guys get questioned...y dun they trust gals....guys can do ne thin they want n gurlz cant...even if gals do sumthin...ppl talk abut the gurll ...YY???.....in white or black race...gals n guys treated the same...y not in ours... :? Fateh Ji, Hi, welcome to the board... This is not about the Sikh Religion, this is about parents and their views... Sikhi is all about equality, but if parents don't want you to go out or want to question you, thats them, not Sikhi... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desi*chick Posted June 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 lolZzz.....i kinda live in toronto...i duno abut UK...y'all probblly have a british accent....lol... welll thanxx foo the repliesss ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simi Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 "british sikhs get waay 2 much freedom" well i disagree- freedom has nothing to do with it, its people who abuse the trust of there parents who end up like that. And yes it indian culture that treats gals an guys differently- not sikhi! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABROO KHALISTAN DAH Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 yah its got ntutin 2 do with religion, sikhi, khalsa, is perfect without flaw, made by waheguroo him self. But punjabi cutlure (1 mess'd the fuggg up culture) but with a lil fine tuning ie. drinking, hair, and some other points can be good.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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