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Most of you have probably seen this. Brought back sweet memories of the 1980s to me. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47HoiM0Au8&feature=player_embedded#!

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On ss.com someone called this incident BEST OF BRITISH.

here is an article showing the what I consider Best Of British:

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Olympus-scandal-The-yahoofinanceuk-1992290710.html

I wonder if he has a twin brother in SGPC or the rest of the Sikh Politburo?

Only time will tell........

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I'm not sure how a CEO doing his job right really reflects being 'Best of British'. If anything it will lead to the multinational collapsing and a lot of people losing their jobs.

Here is an article which explains what may be behind the videos: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/06/why-is-britain-becoming-intolerant

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First off it is a 'perception' of how you see a community, country , people. I choose to see this guys actions as something that reflects his upbringing, education, mindset and the type of 'sangat' he keeps. It is a positive course of action he took, no matter what his ethnic background.

Don't be naive in thinking it is his actions that may cause the collapse of this corporation. It was/is the reckless or criminal actions of whoever it was at the top and maybe middle mgment at the time.

he took a risk. He must be intelligent enough to realise that he is risking his job, perhaps future career, pension pot, all the 'chai-paani' money and even his life.

Going on from that do you believe that there are any individuals in the higher echelons of sikh institutions who are willing to risk so much.? And I don't mean simple muck spreading to mediapersons during a press conference. This is taken as granted in indian culture. Has anyone ever done a telkha in the sikh community?

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But his actions have nothing to do with Britishness. Plenty of British companies go belly up due to their English MDs and CEOs screwing things up. As for risking his life, people like to say the Yakuza are behind big business in Japan but they never provide proof. The links between the EDL and big business in the UK are more apparent. Also, it will be interesting how British multinationals deal with a 'lost decade' as Olympus had to.

As for the Sikh community, you would need a whiter than white figure to investigate as anyone else would be slurred and humiliated by the cronies in these institutions. Even if hard evidence of wrong doing was found, the police, judiciary, media, local politicians and, most importantly, the people wouldnt care as they either had vested interests or they had the information presented to them in a skewed way. An overgrown weed that has roots, leaves, stems and seeds wont suddenly change if an insect bites a piece of it. It has to be completely destroyed and replaced with the seed of a better system, to be nurtured to stand where the weed once was.

How did we go from drunk rude english people, to big corporations and finally onto Sikhi institutions?

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Suryadev! Talk about deflection. I was talking about red necks on a street level and you went into Anglo bumlicking mode! lol

Anyway, this video here reflects the 70s/80s and should also serve to remind all you young arse lickers of how things can change, if the wind blows that way.

http://www.twitpic.com/5exbfg

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lol@suryadev

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I just saw this and had to post it:

Views, lol?

White beach whale attacks dread.

Hilarious.

Where was this?

One thing that really makes me laugh (and cringe!!) is the way certain nonwhites keep going on about how they are 'English' despite the fact that hordes of 'Angry Saxons' vehemently deny this to be true or even possible.

That Sunny Hundal is an example of an apna whose taken that route.

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Haha I actually thought that was a spoof of the Tram Experience. Didn't realise till they started with the fisticuffs that it was for real!

DalSingh Its not just AngloSaxons. Lets look at it the other way: How many fundamentalist Sikh deny that other sikhs can call themselves so? Apparently, if you aren't 'amrit-shak' your not a sikh. If women shape their eyebrows they cant be sikhs. There was even a court case in Pb about this a while ago. I believe a girl was declared a non-sikh because she trimmed her brows!? If women don't wear a turban they are not sikhs. If you have a picture of 'Sri Ram and Sita' (-its actually ShivJi and ParbatiJi) on your site, your not a sikh!

This self elitist attitude exists in all communities. How many apne deny that American Sikhs are sikhs?

And like the AngloSaxons, its all based on looks.

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Haha I actually thought that was a spoof of the Tram Experience. Didn't realise till they started with the fisticuffs that it was for real!

DalSingh Its not just AngloSaxons. Lets look at it the other way: How many fundamentalist Sikh deny that other sikhs can call themselves so? Apparently, if you aren't 'amrit-shak' your not a sikh. If women shape their eyebrows they cant be sikhs. There was even a court case in Pb about this a while ago. I believe a girl was declared a non-sikh because she trimmed her brows!? If women don't wear a turban they are not sikhs.

I don't think this comparison is actually analogous myself. What you are talking about are issues of a more complicated nature. And the truth is that we don't exactly know what dasmesh pita would make of the current situation of the panth with it's majority of monay. As for some Amritdhari's being exclusivist, it's worth bearing in mind that they usually have no problems with monay financial contributions towards Sikh institutes.

But even as a mona myself, I can see certain logic behind the position espoused by more kattarh members of the panth. If we are honest, we know dasmesh pita had a strong preference for Amritshak Sikhs and placed them central to the panth. It's only natural that more rehitvaan Sikhs will question and challenge perceived lapses. When you see it on a deeper level, our problem is not one based solely on looks - it has other dimensions in that this look issue was made a central one to Sikhi by Guru Gobind Singh ji himself.

Where some Amritdharis mess up is by excessively focusing on the external to the extent that it appears as if the profound issues concerning Sikh internal belief appear to become mere adjuncts. Plus human nature is complex, we are just pathetic ego machines mostly, we even take a faith whose central component is control or suppression of the ego, and use it to do the very opposite to this.........the human disease. Haumai.

If you have a picture of 'Sri Ram and Sita' (-its actually ShivJi and ParbatiJi) on your site, your not a sikh!

This issue is more clear cut to me. As from my understanding Sikhi involves the worship of a paradoxically formless, transcendental but at the same time all pervasive being. Being as such, it's easy to argue that the above is retrogressive for Sikhs. Not only that, but how can we ignore the patent fact that larges sections of the Sikh community have consciously and willingly moved away from their Hindu roots due to a whole range of factors. Some people would (quite convincingly in my opinion) argue that there is no point in Sikhs becoming one more strand of a array of beliefs under the Hindu rubric. They could point at a lot of early evidence in Sikh scripture and historical literature that points at a steady and conscious break away from a Hindu identity, and say that a continuing of this trajectory is just a natural phenomena seeing trends that were already established to their logical conclusion.

This self elitist attitude exists in all communities. How many apne deny that American Sikhs are sikhs?

You are right, but also need to factor in that there may well be some theological justification behind the stances certain elites might espouse?

And like the AngloSaxons, its all based on looks.

It isn't - wasps seem to be arguing about race, Sikhs about beliefs. It gets complicated because issues of 'looks' are entwined within Sikhi itself, especially post 1699.

It is interesting to note how whitey came to Panjab and introduced their racialised notions deep into Sikhi with their 'martial races' and 'Aryan invasion' theories. When you look at how the modern caste thing breaks down in the panth today, you can clearly see how these conceptualisations still lurk around in certain people's imaginations effecting how they perceive other Sikhs.

More foreigners 'ruining' Britain. Says a lot about indigenous working class brains.

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Where was this?

One thing that really makes me laugh (and cringe!!) is the way certain nonwhites keep going on about how they are 'English' despite the fact that hordes of 'Angry Saxons' vehemently deny this to be true or even possible.

That Sunny Hundal is an example of an apna whose taken that route.

I have no idea, I just got sent the link.

As for being English, the black guy was wearing a RAF cadet jacket with a propeller showing he had won some awards. People like that know they have nowhere else to go so it's not surprising they get upset when some lowlife tells them they are not English. The rasta may not be so willing to defend others rights to racially abuse him at this rate lol. Sunny HUndal is a complete arse as he has made an entire career out of being a coconut.

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Is it not better to have a transportable identity that gives us (at least a degree of) stability, as quite a fluid and outward bound community - instead of jumping into host communities warped identities in an effort to fit in? Especially when 'indigenous' identities can come (ESPECIALLY in the case of Angry Saxons) wrapped up with a whole lot of very questionable notions.

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The jacket is something he must have bought from an army surplus store. There is no way he is a serviceman.

Who is Sunny Hundal anyway?

Isnt it illegal to impersonate military personnel in the UK? I think the RAF takes cadets up to 20 so he may have been one.

Sunny Hundal is one of those wishy washy types who doesnt know what he's on about. Some of his journalism is good but his 'bigging up' of Sikh threats in the UK is a bit of a joke. That and how he changes his political views every 10 seconds.

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/

https://twitter.com/#!/sunny_hundal

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Isnt it illegal to impersonate military personnel in the UK? I think the RAF takes cadets up to 20 so he may have been one.

Sunny Hundal is one of those wishy washy types who doesnt know what he's on about. Some of his journalism is good but his 'bigging up' of Sikh threats in the UK is a bit of a joke. That and how he changes his political views every 10 seconds.

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/

https://twitter.com/...#!/sunny_hundal

I think he frequently works in some Sikh 'threat' into his articles (usually Sikh fundementalists or something to do with the Behzti play), just to assure whitey that he would switch on his own whenever it was required.

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1. He has a giant dreadlocks on his head. no way he could be in military with that. Same goes for the dangling braces. you will never get a serviceman with his style of dress in public.

2. Hard to believe as it may be, but you will never get a serviceman use such a foul language with 'civvies', or in public generally! If it was such a case this would have kicked back in HIS face big time.

You can easily buy surplus military clothing from shops, even your High St fashion chains have copycat styles. Its only impersonating if you try an pass yourself off as a ex/serviceman for personaal gain.

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Lol, I said it was a cadet's uniform, not a fulltime one so he could have been in the cadets, I really dont know. Do the cadets have the same policies as the main armed forces?

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