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This isnt about Rajoana.... are you little kids that stupid? This is about you losers machods trying to denigrate 1857 revolution and downplay your cowardice by claiming that the 1857 revolution was anti-national because of the "Mughal" aspect and the "Purbiya" factor.... these two points are heavily flawed. My points before have put your stupid bold faced shameless lies in the dirt. For, Gujjars, Dalits, Rajputs of Central India and of Punjab have nothing to do with the Purbiyas or the Mughals. You losers just try to save face. You sided with Patiala and the British because you apparently value them over native rule for that brief moment in history. Rajputs played the most formidable role against the Brits in 1857. Dozens of British officers were killed and so were the sellout pawns who fought Ram Singh Pathania who were all Sikhs.

Heres a story that will rattle your stupid brain and hopefully wake you from your pathetic slumber:

1) MAharaja Ranjit Singhs throne and Khalsa Flags bearing Devi Devtay are still in British Museums displayed as trophies.

2) The Dogra Jamwals undr Mian Dido Singh Jamwal defeated Maharaja Ranjit Singhs army dozens of times.... his army would even step out of the fort to combat Dogra Assaults. The dogras were just trying to govern their own tribal homeland and fought Sikh invaders tooth and nail. Gulab Singh Jamwal betrayed his own clan for Khalsa and created a schism within the Dogra clan and killed Mian Dido for the Lahore Darbar.

3) Gobind Rai of the Sikhs is said to have visited Mandi in the reign of Sidh Sen, towards the end of the 17th century. He was on his way back from Kulu, where he had gone to ask help against the Muhammadans and was badly treated and imprisoned in a cage. The Mandi Raja gave him an honourable reception and entertained him hospitably. On his departure Gobind Rai gave utterance to the following cryptic couplet: “When Mandi is plundered, Heavenly balls will be fired”. Mr. Vigne, the traveler, who visited Mandi soon after the accession of Raja Balbir Sen in 1839, states that, for some superstitious notion connected with the above couplet, no servant of Ranjit Sansi (Ranjit Sandhalwalia of Lahore) had ever been sent to Mandi. The receiver of revenue was quartered outside the town and the Sansi’s officer in attendance did not enter it while Mr. Vigne remained there.

4) The Rajputs of Ramgarh were also great bhagats of Dasmay Patshah and still have his blessings today

5) Towards the end of 1586, the Mohmand and Ghoria tribes in Peshawar rose in rebellion under one Jalaluddin 'Jalalah' Taraki. The Brahman, Birbal, could not suppress it nor could the Khatri Vaishya, Todarmal, and Taraki continued to create trouble; but the operations of Raja Maan Singh Kachawaha aided by Rawat Gopal Das of Nindar against the Taraki tribe induced even the Orakzais and Afridis into submission. Rawat Gopal Das severed the head of one Katloo Khan during a pitched battle which took place in the Kunar Valley.

Raja Jagat Singh Pathania would later be sent to chastise Jalalah's younger son, Kareem Dadh Khan. When the Raja reached Naghaz, all the pashtun tribes, except Lakan and two others with whom Kareem Dadh was allied, submitted. When, however, they saw that their safety lay in surrendering to the Rajputs, they seized the culprit along with his family and handed them over to the troops. A formidable soldier, Jagat Singh Pathania was mainly responsible for driving out the Persians from Kabul as well as conquering Zameen-e-Dawar, a district located northwest of Qandahar and inhabited by the Alizai, Barakzai and Durrani tribes. (heres one of many stories of Rajputs defeating Pashtuns beyond the Khyber Pass..... this should break the stupid lie that only MAharaja Ranjit did this (he could not hold the area for long at all and is more of an embarrassment than a feat... also since our proper raj under him only lasted 50 years is also shameful but with loyal servants of the British Crown such as yourselves, this is not a surprise that we have not gained rule yet.)

6) Raja Kripal Dev summons the Ramgharias to kill his enemy, Miyan Nath to which fourteen of the Sikhs rise to the occasion at the behest of their leader, Garha. The Sikhs would attempt to parlay with the Raja for his most prized war elephant (Kirpanaag) should they succeed in this already doomed enterprise. The hairy wretches advance towards the Rajput who kills three of them instantaneously as the rest retreat even as the Raja tries to bribe them with land grants should they hold their ground and subdue the Dogra. The Ramgharias collectively attack Miyan Nath and lose three more souls after which the survivors run away from the field of battle.

Note: There was a great war between Kirpal Dev of Bahu and Dhruv Dev of Jasrota. The cause of the battle, as according to the ballads, was the precious sword in possession of Mian Nath, the commander of the forces of Bahu Raj. Raja Kirpal Dev wanted to have that sword for his heir apparent which was not only refused but Mian Nath left the kingdom to stay with the Raja of Jasrota.

7) Dont forget the Siba Rajputs defeated us as well

8) In 1757 Abdali arrived at Mathura and directed a contingent to loot Gokul, but four thousand martial Naga sadhus of that place were determined to defend their religious shrines. In a fierce action two thousand Nagas fell but not before killing an equal number of the Afghans. Yet, none of the two sides would yield, Jugal Kishore, the Bengali agent of Sarfaraz Khan, was present in Abdali’s camp; he pointed out the futility of fighting the Nagas as they possessed no money. Abdali recalled his troops and Gokul became an exception to the all round Afghan devastation. ( we are not the only ones to fight Abdali)

9) 90 year old Ghoga Rana fought Abdali at Somnath Mandir with his tribe and attained shaheedi

10) As soon as the Sikhs had got the Raja of Kuluta into their power, they showed an intention of taking possession of the whole country; and as the quickest means of reducing the hill forts of Saraj which still held out, a force was detached, which marched through the country, carrying the Raja with it, and compelling him before each fort to order the commandant to surrender. The Sikhs, completely confident, committed excesses, and treated the Raja with brutal want of courtesy;his guards are said to have amused themselves by pulling him on to his feet by his long moustaches. The Dogra Rajputs are remarkable for the loyalty and respect they have for their hereditary Rajas, and the report of this indignity angered them particularly.

A plot to attack the Sikhs and rescue the Raja was devised by the Wazeer of Saraj. A sort of fiery cross was sent round and men were secretly mustered from al parts of Saraj. The Sikh force was probably about one thousand strong; it had done its work and had returned from outer Saraj by the Bashleo Pass. A little way below the fort of Tung, the Sarajis lay in ambush and awaited the Sikhs, who came marching along in single file and undisturbed by any feeling of insecurity. When that part of the line which held the Raja came opposite the ambush a sudden rush was made, a few men were cut down, and the Raja was caught up and carried swiftly up the mountain side. At the same time all along the line rocks were rolled down and shots fired from above at the Sikhs, who were seized with a panic and fell back into the fort of Tung. Here they remained two days, till they were forced to move out by the failure of their provisions. They were attacked again in the same way as they marched down the valley, and made slow progress; but they did not know the country, and only got on to a particularly barren steep, where they could barely keep their footing, and did not even find water to drink. The Rajputs kept above them wherever they went, knocking over some with rocks, and driving others to fall over the cliff. After a night spent in this way the miserable remnant were driven down again into the valley, and there induced to give up their arms, on the promise that their lives should be spared but no sooner did they submit were the entire lot of them mercilessly hacked to pieces.

11)Noorpur is believed to have been founded by Rana Jhet Pal, who was a younger brother of the Tomar Rajput king of Delhi. The original capital of Noorpur was Pathankot, previously known as Paithan or Pratishthan. Raja Jagat Chand saw to it that the state reached the zenith of its prosperity and his name is, even now, remembered with pride and respect. The Raja, at the head of 14,000 Rajputs raised in his own country, conducted a most difficult but successful enterprise againstthe Uzbeks of the Balkh and Badakhshan provinces of Afghanistan. They stormed mountain passes, made forced marches over snow, constructed redoubts by their own labour, the Raja himself taking an axe like the rest, and bore up against the tempests of that frozen region as firmly as against the fierce and repeated attacks of the Uzbeks. Raja Jagat Singh’s grandson, Raja Mandata, held at bay the Afghans of the Bamiyan and Ghorband regions.

जगता राजा भगता राजा बस देव का जाया

सिन्धु मारे सागर मारे हिमाचल देवा पाया

आकाश को अरबा किता तान जगाता कहाया

"Jagat Raja, the devout Raja, son of Bas Dev. He conquered the country beyond the Indus, he pitched his camp on the Snow Mountains and pointed his guns towards the heavens, and therefore was he called Jagata!"

12)Chamba is one of the very few hill kingdoms which was spared the destruction and raiding which followed the Muhammadan, and to a lesser extent, Sikh invasions. The temples here are preserved since many centuries with almost no signs of defacement. The Rajputs here are a small community numerically but they occupy a prominent position in the State, owing to the ruling house being from them, claiming lineage from the Chiefs of Udaipur in Rajputana.

Narayan Shah, a Brahman representative of the Sikhs, was the relative of Pandit Jala, a senior minister who manipulated absolute power in the Lahore court. Narayan, also known as Lakar Shah, managed to acquire so much influence in Chamba that the whole State administration was practically in his hands. The Rajputs of Chamba disliked him for his arrogance, and took counsel with the queen to have him killed. Receiving the news of his nephew’s death, Pandit Jala sent a Sikh army to invade Chamba and the capital was looted; however the Rajputs held the invaders at bay from the Taragarh Fort and obstructed further encroachment into the Kingdom.

13)The Chiefs of Sirmaur are direct descendants of the esteemed house of Jaisalmer through Subhansh Prakash, the son of Salivahana, better known as “Sakari”, the slayer of the Scythians.

Raja Kirat Prakash of this dynasty waged offensives against the Sikhs and was able to take possessions of Naraingarh, Rampur, Ramgarh, Morni, Pinjaur and Jagatgarh. To commemorate his cumulative victories, the Raja had a temple constructed at Naraingarh which he dedicated to Lord Jagannath. Raja Jagat Prakash would sit on the gaddi for nineteen years and would continue in the course of his predecessors by humbling the invading Rohillas under their leader Ghulam Qadeer Khan. The Muhammadan was confronted at Katasan and was defeated by the Rajputs of Kahlur and Sirmaur who had joined forces against the Pathan. A temple dedicated to Katasan Devi was constructed after a woman appeared fighting for the Rajputs at the most critical point in the battle when defeat seemed inevitable. The Raja would later support the Garhwal monarch against the Gurkhas of Nepal and it was due to him that the latter accepted the Ganges as the border line of their territory. In 1880 the Rajputs of this state fought in the Second Afghan War and again in 1897 under Major Bir Bikram Prakash, they would render services during the Tirah Campaign.

14) The Jamwal biradari prides itself as being of martial traditions and some of the most belligerent of the Rajputs belong to this clan. One such family was that of Miyan Hazara Singh, which fought tooth and nail against the advances made by the forces of Ranjit Sandhawalia of Lahore, the ruler of the Sikhs. Hazara Singh of Jagti was the direct descendant of Raja Hari Singh and his son was the famed warrior, Miyan Dido Singh Jamwal. Like his elder contemporary Arjun Singh Chanasia, Miyan Dido was of the opinion that Jammu should be ruled by the Rajputs alone. Their entire lives they endeavored in this cause and fought against the invaders tooth and nail with almost no military assistance.

Miyan Dido had a white falcon which was not allowed to be domesticated except by the royal family. Ranjit Sandhawalia of Lahore was having a pair of such falcons and Miyan Dido was asked to send his bird to Lahore, but the haughty Rajput refused. From Khadak Sandhawalia to Attar Sandhawalia all the Sikh chiefs tried their hand at apprehending this Rajput and his famed bird but to their detriment, Miyan Dido got the better of their forces each and every time. What happened next was a dastardly act; Attar Sandhawalia's forces surrounded the Jageer of Miyan Hazara Singh (father of Miyan Dido) and tortured the 90 year old man to death and hung his body outside of his house. They caught up with Miyan Dido at Katra and surrounded him at Vaishno Devi. Miyan Dido put up his last stand at Vaishno Devi and killed Attar Sandhalwalia whereupon he was shot down by one of the soldiers.

Note: Contrary to their tall claims of being of Bhati ancestry, the Sandhawalia are by self proclamation a Jat people with blood ties to the notorious Sansi robber tribes of North India.

1857 WAS A REVOLUTION. ALTHOUGH THE MANY FACTIONS WERE DISUNITED AND OFTEN FOUGHT AMONGST THEMSELVES (as is the case throughout all of Indian history), THEIR MAIN TARGET WAS TO DRIVE THE BRITISH OUT OF THEIR RESPECTIVE REGIONS AND GOVERN THEMSELVES. THIS IS CALLED FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM! DYING FOR FREEDOM IS SHAHADAT! AND IT IS NOT THE CHARACTER OF A POORAN SIKH TO DISCREDIT THE BRAVERY OF OTHERS AS EVEN DASMESH PITAJI HIMSELF PRAISES THE KANGRA RAJPUT FOR HIS BRAVERY AND CLEARLY MENTIONS HOW THE MONARCH SINGLE HANDEDLY DELIVERED MANY SIKHS TO THEIR DEMISE.

excellent post Jung. Thank you for giving details of the resistance given to Muslims.

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The Naga Sadhu defence of Gokul was awesome. Abdali actually withdrew after seeing the fearsome resistance offered by the wandering

sadhus of Shiva.

Please. These nange, who can not even take grahasit pressure, made Abdali threatened. Abdali, who crushed your favourite Marathas into oblivion.

Anyway, this could be official Indian History Curriculum now, as Modibhai is in power.

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the sikhs have made perhaps a fatal mistake. In the race to distant themselves from anything hindu they have cut their own roots. No longer

can they go into hinduism and pull out a convert (ex. Banda Bahadur) or seek men, money and shelter like in the moghul days. Nor will hindus

give it to them anyways. It's no surprise the slow demise of sikh influence and power coincides with their attempt to make their religion Semitic

starting from 100 years back. The early sikhism with huge numbers of the intellectual castes like brahmins and khatris are now gone and

replaced by something that is petty, rustic, and without intellectual depth.

Not bad. But how do we fix it?

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Also, I might as well throw this in here as well. The Garhi of Chamkaur was owned by Hindu Ghorewaha Rajputs... the younger brother Chaudhry Rai Roop Chand gave Guru MAharaj sharan and was shaheed with the Soormay at Chamkaur.... so its about time you cowards stop speaking ill of hindus as we were all hindus once and our hindu forefathers took amrit. We did not come from the skies as many of you would like to believe. We are native to this land and this land is our forefathers land. Any people who cannot respect their ancestorys cannot respect themselves. Hence, today Sikhs are just a weak kom without a leader and without any significant import. Thanks to tat khalsa neo sikhs of abrahamic tradition such as yourselves.

Import?

There is heavy export going on.

Mentality of majority among them that is that they don't need us anymore.

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"Hence, today Sikhs are just a weak kom without a leader and without any significant import."

Import?

There is heavy export going on.

Mentality of majority among them that is that they don't need us anymore

Import in the original quote means 'importance/significance'.

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Please. These nange, who can not even take grahasit pressure, made Abdali threatened. Abdali, who crushed your favourite Marathas into oblivion.

Anyway, this could be official Indian History Curriculum now, as Modibhai is in power.

...crushed ..marathas into oblivion.

totally incorrect. Abdali WEAKENED maratha empire but it was far from crushed and never went into oblivion. within 10 years of the 3rd Battle of Panipat (1761) Marathas regained control over most of North India while retaining supremacy in south, south west India. Mughal emperors were just a figure head with all the power in the hands of Marathas. why marathas did not rule from Delhi, i have no clue. Marathas signed various treaties with the British in 1818. Brits had earlier also forced Maharaja Ranjit Singh to sign one such treaty. Treaties with the Brits did not mean Marathas were deposed of their principalities or kingdoms.

Some of the main 1857 leaders like Rani Laxmi Bai, Nanaji, Tantya Tope..were Maratha (brahmins). Scindias, Holkar, Gaekwads, Bhonsles, etc were still kings when india became independent in 1947. Baroda Maharaja gaekwad and Maharaja of Gwalior were two of the five Indian kings who were used to receive 21 guns salute. Nizam of Hyderabad, Maharaja of Mysore and Maharaja of kashmir were the other three. of the sikh kings, Mh of Patiala was used to get 17 guns salute. there were four other sikhs in the list of 120 (Kaputhala, Jind, Nabha and Faridkot) Indian kings who were given guns' salute.

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Please. These nange, who can not even take grahasit pressure, made Abdali threatened. Abdali, who crushed your favourite Marathas into oblivion.

Anyway, this could be official Indian History Curriculum now, as Modibhai is in power.

And Abdali also made an immediate peace deal to avoid further war between the two sides, and actually admits the marathas fought like lions and apologizes for the death of the Peshwa's son.

I guess you missed that as well. Where were our sikh brothers, defenders of dharma, no where to be found. Kudos to Suraj Mal for providing some support despite dire threats from Abdali.

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Please. These nange, who can not even take grahasit pressure, made Abdali threatened. Abdali, who crushed your favourite Marathas into oblivion.

Anyway, this could be official Indian History Curriculum now, as Modibhai is in power.

"The Marathas fought with the greatest valour which was beyond the capacity of other races. These dauntless blood-shedders didn't fall short in fighting and doing glorious deeds. But ultimately we won with our superior tactics and with the grace of the Divine Lord"

-Abdalis letter to Madhav Singh

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the sikhs have made perhaps a fatal mistake. In the race to distant themselves from anything hindu they have cut their own roots. No longer

can they go into hinduism and pull out a convert (ex. Banda Bahadur) or seek men, money and shelter like in the moghul days. Nor will hindus

give it to them anyways. It's no surprise the slow demise of sikh influence and power coincides with their attempt to make their religion Semitic

starting from 100 years back. The early sikhism with huge numbers of the intellectual castes like brahmins and khatris are now gone and

replaced by something that is petty, rustic, and without intellectual depth.

What inellectual caste those who exploited people for thousand years ? We will not change our relegion philosophy to win converts .

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excellent post Jung. Thank you for giving details of the resistance given to Muslims.

excellent post Jung. Thank you for giving details of the resistance given to Muslims.

Import?

There is heavy export going on.

Mentality of majority among them that is that they don't need us anymore.

Also, I might as well throw this in here as well. The Garhi of Chamkaur was owned by Hindu Ghorewaha Rajputs... the younger brother Chaudhry Rai Roop Chand gave Guru MAharaj sharan and was shaheed with the Soormay at Chamkaur.... so its about time you cowards stop speaking ill of hindus as we were all hindus once and our hindu forefathers took amrit. We did not come from the skies as many of you would like to believe. We are native to this land and this land is our forefathers land. Any people who cannot respect their ancestorys cannot respect themselves. Hence, today Sikhs are just a weak kom without a leader and without any significant import. Thanks to tat khalsa neo sikhs of abrahamic tradition such as yourselves.

We Sikhs are weak koum and you hindus are rulers of world ? Yes we are without leader so what but we are not without ambition , we know what we want and that is AZAADI from your Hindu corrupt system , AZAADI from your discrimination , AZAADI from your HATE ,

Which land are you talking about where our brothers were burnt alive and still no justice ? Take your stupid forefather and ancestor bullshit to RSS shaka were you belong ,Indian Hindu idiot .

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this "we" club seems to be Khalibans' duplication of the ISIS model.

What you more expected from Hindu SWASTIK Nazi supporting mass murdered like Beant Singh.

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What inellectual caste those who exploited people for thousand years ? We will not change our relegion philosophy to win converts .

What this "we" will not change our religion philosophy to win converts, that’s exactly what you and your gang of fuudu fundamentalist scum have done.

Khalibans have destroyed everything the Sikh Dhram stood for, you guys waving your flags of made-up glories and even defeats are symbolised as some sort of honour. Instead of learning from the defeats, abundant time is spent trying to justify them. What a poor bunch. Promoting terrorists to a saint status.

In a way it's good, no converts, slowly you will all die out.

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What this "we" will not change our religion philosophy to win converts, that’s exactly what you and your gang of fuudu fundamentalist scum have done.

Khalibans have destroyed everything the Sikh Dhram stood for, you guys waving your flags of made-up glories and even defeats are symbolised as some sort of honour. Instead of learning from the defeats, abundant time is spent trying to justify them. What a poor bunch. Promoting terrorists to a saint status.

In a way it's good, no converts, slowly you will all die out.

Here comes another bahman talking about Sikhi . We are not going anywhere people are getting more aware about myth called Hinduism , Democratic India and the truth .

Better you people worried about your own relegion worshipping Sai Baba or not . Thousand of Gods but still prove even one existed .

Waris Shah wrote Heer Ranjha and some stupid believe they really existed same case for Hindus .

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Excellent reply to Hindu fanatics by Dr Ganda Singh

Whenever a discussion regarding the independence of India has begun the newspapers, the communication mediums and the historical books have gone by leaps and bounds to represent the 1857 uprising as the first war of independence. The revolt of 1857 has been imposed on the brains of common people with that strength that a majority of them have accepted it as first war of independence without reasoning or questioning. Like this was not enough, with immense emphasis it has been said, “The revolt of 1857 would have never failed, provided the Sikhs did not betray. India could have got its independence 100 years earlier, but due to the betrayal by the Sikhs Britisher’s ruled for 90 years and kept plundering and destroying India.”

In 1957, a mega conference of top historians of India was held under the auspices of Central Government and topic of discussion was – “What was the reason for the failure of 1857 revolt?” Top academicians from universities delivered lengthy speeches. Most of them almost focused on only one thing that the revolt of 1857 failed due to betrayal by Sikhs. India had to see the 100 more years of slavery just because of the Sikhs. The famous Sikh historian Dr. Ganda Singh was also present in this mega conference. In fact, Dr. Ganda Singh was the chairman of this conference. He could not tolerate the insult to whole Sikh community. He felt deeply hurt due to the addressing of Sikhs with the word traitor by the top historians. Eventually, when listening and watching this despicable act was not more tolerable to Dr. Ganda Singh, he resigned from the president ship of this conference. At the same time Dr. Ganda Singh asked for time to speak on the stage. The conference hall became turbulent, people starting wondering what is going on? The president was scheduled to speak in the end of the conference, what is going on? First he submitted resignation and now he is asking for time to speak? – people where wondering and watching dumb stuck. Dr. Ganda Singh excellently presented the Sikh side of story and that too with such logic and reasoning that the audience was astonished. The whole way of thinking changed and atmosphere got reversed. The historians started to sweat they, who were speaking in loud voices before, started sneaking out of the conference now. Those who were yet to speak, they starting reconsidering the tought of speaking and one of them though it was better not to speak at all. What Dr. Ganda Singh spoke was quite a few and nobody gave any satisfactory reply to that. Its not possible to describe everything here what Dr. Ganda Singh spoke, but the following is the summary and central meaning of that talk:-

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“In the important gathering of today, we are discussing the reasons for the failure of the revolt of 1857 but the whole energy seems to be focused around emphasizing that if Sikhs did not betray the revolt of 1857 would not have failed. By speaking like that about Sikhs you have insulted the whole Sikh community. The Sikh people have given more sacrifices as compared to their population proportion in this country and today the same Sikh community is being made to stand in the court. I am sitting back there and thinking from some time, that if at all the Sikhs have betrayed then whom and why? No! No! this allegation is totally false and against the facts. First of all we should discuss – was the revolt of 1857 in reality the first war of independence? No! I do not consider it as the first was of independence, not by any means! This was not any planned and organized revolt. The issue just arose from the fats of cow and pig. The cartridges of the bullets for the rifles are opened with mouth by soldiers. Somebody spread rumors in army that the cartridges are coated with cows and pigs fats. Due to the mention of cow’s fat the Hindus got angered and the Muslims got angered due to pigs fats. An army man named Mangal Pandey got angered due to some reason in the Meerut cantonment and shot his British officer. The unplanned and un-organized uprising started from here and the violence started spreading as more people came to know about this. But all this was happening due to religious feelings and not for the freedom of the country. Some shrewd people are trying to paint this religious disturbance as the struggle for independence. At that time, all the kings and chieftains were having their own different views on this religious disturbance. The whole country at that time was divided into small regions. Neither was there a common leader, nor was there any means of communication between all of these small regions.

I simply do not accept this uprising as the first war of independence because Hindustan (India) was in the shackles of slavery from 700 years. The person who encouraged people for independence for the first time was Guru Nanak Dev ji, and his voice was further strengthened by the Singhs (Sikhs): -

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The English translation of which is like this: -

As the Word of the Forgiving Lord comes to me, so do I express it, O Lalo. Bringing the marriage party of sin, Babar has invaded from Kaabul, demanding our land as his wedding gift, O Lalo. Modesty and righteousness both have vanished, and falsehood struts around like a leader, O Lalo. The Qazis and the Brahmins have lost their roles, and Satan now conducts the marriage rites, O Lalo. The Muslim women read the Koran, and in their misery, they call upon God, O Lalo. The Hindu women of high social status, and others of lowly status as well, are put into the same category, O Lalo. The wedding songs of murder are sung, O Nanak, and blood is sprinkled instead of saffron, O Lalo. Nanak sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord and Master in the city of corpses, and voices this account. The One who created, and attached the mortals to pleasures, sits alone, and watches this The Lord and Master is True, and True is His justice. He issues His Commands according to His judgement. The body-fabric will be torn apart into shreds, and then India will remember these words. Coming in seventy-eight (1521 A.D.), they will depart in ninety-seven (1540 A.D.), and then another disciple of man will rise up. Nanak speaks the Word of Truth; he proclaims the Truth at this, the right time.

The invader Babur imprisoned Guru Nanak Dev ji where Guru Nanak had to bear tortures, had to grind flour and do other hard work….. The struggle for freedom starts from that time. Guru Arjun dev ji were considered a rebel by the invader/king, and he was martyred by exposing to intolerable tortures. The first great martyr of India was Guru Arjan Sahib ji. Guru Hargobind Sahib was imprisoned in the form of prisoner of war in the prison of Gwalior for long time. He also fought 4 wars at different times. Guru Tegh Bahadar Sahibji were martyred fighting for the sake of self-respect, dignity and freedom of religion by Aurangzeb in Delhi. Did Guru Tegh Bahadar have some personal grudge against Aurangzeb? Guru Gobind Singh ji fought for the freedom of people and societal welfare. He tolerated enormous problems, raised his sword for the “just war”, infused self-respect and dignity in Indian people; rare instances like this are found in the history. Every Sikh jumped into the war field without worrying about their life. Banda Singh Bahadur along with his Sikh knights gave big troubles to Emperor Bahadur Shah and Farukhshayyar and eventually he sacrificed himself along with numerous other Sikhs for the sake of freedom while fighting these wars. This fierce war for the sake of freedom continued, swords kept rising, shots kept firing, Knights kept fighting, the blood kept oozing and flowing like rivers…. but this selfless quality did not go away and kept progressing forward from one generation to the other. They kept getting severed into pieces, heads kept getting slashed, they kept going forward, even got buried alive in walls, were boiled in water but kept fighting the war of life and freedom. Nawab Kapur Singh, Sardar Jassa Singh Ahluwalia, Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgarhia, Maharaja Ranjeet Singh, Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa, Baba Deep Singh, Akali Phoola Singh, Sardar Shaam Singh Atari and Bhai Maharaj Singh – the list of such people who kept the cruel rulers on their toes is long.

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The Sikhs sealed the Khyber Pass which was the route of the invaders who kept plundering India in the past and forced them to return back from where they had come. The area till Satluj river had been made the part of Afghanistan by these invaders, the Sikhs took back this area from them and joined it back with India. But you people did not stop the Britishers and let them come in via the sea route and they eventually occupied the whole of India. Only Punjab was free from the British slavery, where the Sikhs were ruling under the rule of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh, you people did not let remain that free as well. Countless people from the Indian region outside Punjab joined the British forces and attacked Punjab along with Britishers just after the death of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh. The traitors like Laal Singh, Gulaab Singh, Dhiyan Singh joined hands with the cheating Britishers. The most powerful empire of the world (British) and most of the India outside Punjab moved towards Punjab along with their weapons to finish the Sikhs. Nevertheless, the Khalsa showed such an example of bravery in this war, that people will remember that till the end of this world. Poet Shah Muhammad has written the account of that war as follows:

Jang Hind Punjab da hon lagga, doven paatshahi fauja bhariaayan ne | Naal goliyaan de bande jaan udd de, haathi udd de sanhe ambariaayan ne | Ajj hove sarkaar taan mull pave, jehdiyaan khalse ne tega mariyaan ne | Shah Muhammada! Ik sarkaar bajhon, fauja jit ke ant nu hariyaan ne | (Jangnama Shah Muhammad)

Which in plain English translates to: – The battle between Hindustan and Punjab has begun, armies are heavy from both sides. People are blowing away with gun fires, the Elephants are getting blown away to the skies as well. If the master(Maharaja Ranjit Singh) was present today he would have appreciated, the powerful blows of the sword of the Khalsa. Oh Shah Muhammad! After the master, the other army has lost even after winning. (Description of the war by Shah Muhammad)

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The havoc that the local people from outside Punjab unleashed by joining the Britishers cannot be expressed in words – Sikh houses and businesses were plundered and destroyed, young men were killed mercilessly, fires were set, everything was wrecked. The Sikhs who were rich and prosperous were turned into poor having no property, women were dishonored. The Sikhs had not yet forgotten the nerve wrecking atrocities done by Hindus – how a prosperous Punjab was turned into soil by joining hands with the British, how freedom was turned into slavery. Just 10 years had passed after the fall of Sikh kingdom (1849) that this self-centered revolt of 1857 sprung. The deep wounds inflicted by the Hindu armies had not yet vanished from the Sikh minds. After that fierce destruction the Sikhs had just begun to get past their woes. It is worth noting here – did any Hindu leader approach Sikhs? Did they ask the Sikhs to join this revolt? Did the Sikhs agree? Furthermore, a common man named Bahadur Shah Jafar, who was from the lineage of the Mughals who committed uncountable atrocities on Indian people and had killed uncountable young people, was to take the throne after this revolt- do you think Sikhs would have agreed to this?

The Kings and Chieftains, who are being praised on this stage today and are being painted as the heroes of the community – there is a need to analyze their characters as well. Queen of Jhansi, Lakshmi Bai had no son and her husband was a commoner of no good health and he died due to various diseases that he was suffering from. Lakshmi Bai wanted to adopt a child but the British Empire was not happy and they refused her adoption. In turn, Lakshmi Bai sent a letter to the British rulers asking them for 10 Lakh rupees annually to give her kingdom to the British with was rejected by the British. She then reduced the asking price to 2 Lakhs and kept wooing the Britishers for the deal but even then they did not agree. Let me remind you all here that all these hand written letters from Lakshmi Bai are preserved in a big library in London. These letters have the contract mentioned by Lakshmi Bai. When the deal did not work, she decided to fight. The stories of Tantya Tope and Nana Farnvees is not better then the story of Laskhmi Bai. All these people had their own axe to grind, somebody was just interested in a small piece of land and some other had other interests, there was no common motive for this struggle. It is also worth noticing here that the common people of the kingdoms of these people were not very happy to live under their rule – atrocities were committed against them and they were often insulted. The British rule was much better than these kings and chieftains.

You people are calling the aimless revolt of 1857 as first struggle for independence? – I do not agree with you.(eh makhanak vakti junoon si). The true war of independence had already started from the time of Guru Nanak Dev ji but then the whole of India helped the British to attack Punjab and take away its independence, they became instrumental in taking away the freedom of a big and free kingdom of Punjab. During the revolt of 1857, neither the Hindu leaders approached the Sikhs for help nor the Sikhs commit joining the revolt. Some people fought for their own vested interest and now Sikhs are being painted and traitors. How shameful is this act! How shamefully you people are polluting the history and targeting false and despicable allegations on Sikhs.

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The Sikhs who sacrificed their uncountable lives and saved the dignity and self-respect of Bharat (India), whose blood has flowed like rivers, who infused a new life in Indian masses and gave new meaning to life, who saved the country from breaking away into pieces – this is what they get from India in reward? Traitors! this is the crown that you will put on their heads? I have a lot to speak but time is limited. I will print a booklet today itself and put in your hands by tomorrow morning so that the whole picture becomes clear, so that the whole world comes to know how through a well planned conspiracy the Sikhs are being rendered courage less and are being insulted.” (Dr. Ganda Singh ji)

The book was really written overnight. Its Punjabi, English and Hindi versions were cyclostyled and were distributed among people. There was good effect of this and then nobody dared to call Sikhs traitor again in the later versions of the same conference. But the deeper plots and conspiracies have continued to exist against the Sikhs and continue to slander the Sikh pride and history. Sadly, the Sikh community at present is devoid of fearless scholars like Dr. Ganda Singh ji who could say right things at right time. He single handedly muted top historians who had gathered in the conference from all over India, tore apart the truth from the 1857 revolt and brought to light the reality of the so called martyrs. Will the present Sikh scholars, who talk about the freedom of press and welfare of Sikh society, ever gather courage to use their pens to present the disaster of Sikh society correctly to the world? Will they suggest a solid aim or show a path to come out of this disaster?

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Here comes another bahman talking about Sikhi . We are not going anywhere people are getting more aware about myth called Hinduism , Democratic India and the truth .

Better you people worried about your own relegion worshipping Sai Baba or not . Thousand of Gods but still prove even one existed .

Waris Shah wrote Heer Ranjha and some stupid believe they really existed same case for Hindus .

Another racist comment by this outrageously bigoted jat boot

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Listen loser boy amar jkp.....

edward balfour called 1857 a rebellion....and so did all british officers.... has your bitchass been to school? do you knwo gayatri spivak and the subaltern studies group? read about peasant insurgency in colonial india you dum loser. Go serve the brits you chela. Rajputs and dalits and marathas and gujjars fought british throughout india in 1857...while you and your jatt lot were getting zaildariyaan from the maliks of your riyasat... and about khyber... did your dumass just ignore the feats of the pathanias and the rajputs who have been defeating afghans and arabs hundreds of years before Guru Nanakjis arrival?

You do know that sikhs attacked Ram Singh Pathania under a Brit Lt Gen who got killed by Rajputs right? You coward... Katoch alone defeated Mughals 52 times... Siba Rajputs defeated Maharaja Ranjit Singh too and Mian Dido defeated his army over ten times...what world do you live in? You stupid khalistani fool! You probably think Guru Nanakji named his son Laxmi as an ustat to MONEY right? Because Laxmi means something else other than the devi right?

Also, you probably think Mata Krishan Kaur ji's dad from UP was also a coward hindu like the sikhs who sided with their brit masters in 1857 right? And her naming her son Har Krishan probably has nothing to do with her family roots and identity either right? of course!!! because krishna and laxmi are something else!!! only we fought!! rajputs didnt fight? LMAOOOO ahahahahahah

go read history and stop reading losers like ganda singh who are just trying to cover up treachery of 1857 on one side while promoting KArtar Singh Sarabha who went around telling indian soldiers to mutiny like Bhai Randhir Singh ji.. how do you reconcile the two??? Please do tell!!! please make something up FAST!!!!

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Your stupid rant on Jhansi di Rani has nothingto do with the revolt throughout india......

The Rajputs were the worst class of rebellions during 1857.. killed DOZENS of british officers and destroyed british outposts and police stations and the governing administrative bodies became indigenous albeit for a temporary time. Its called occupying SPACE! its called taking back the land of your forefathers! How do you denigrate hundreds of martyrs like the ones i mentioned above especially when you should know that sikh puppet soldiers were used like the Gurkhas in Jallianwala bahg.

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funny thing about brahmins is that they formed the upper echelons of sikh society throughout sikh history until you khalistani loser fools came around... another post here is about Akali Kaur Singhji... hes the kashmiri bahman you saved right..... yet hes shastardhari himself and the shaheeds in chandi chwok were all bahmans as wel and the mohyals are still bahmans in punjab today.... brahmins are not inherently bad... khalistanis are inherently bad. their like pakistanis who want to destroy the history language culture of the land. mind you punjabi is derived from sanskrit.... have you ever read dasm bani? you apparently think we came from the skies like bird shit.

you khalistani fudu loser ass jatts are nothing..... your ignorant and stupid.. any fudu with a pag comes along and says something and you believe it...

the very faact that you call the armies by their religion shows your a piece of shit dumass loser who needs to get slapped up by some real sikhs. why dont we call ourselves traitors for the actions of patiala then???? i think we should right? because thats what the authors critiqued by gandu singh did. They refer to the betrayal of patiala and other houses as sikh betrayal, so with your logic (you dont have any), their completely right!

sikhs have never been one united army... even during gurus times there have been bad apples. the same applies for everyone... the more and more you try to paint a black and white picture the more your stupidity is displayed and we as sikhs look like islamic bigots who cant think critically.

there have been more sikhs defending the brits after maharaja ranjit singh than ones fighting it... should we call ourselves gaddars? we died fighting wars against hitler and we have house niggers parading around bragging about that contribution...... whata admin cut JOKE! you are proud to DIE FOR YOUR MASTER! STAY IN THE HOUSEEEE NIGGER!

on the one side you have kartar singh sarabha and them trying to get soldiers to mutiny to no avail and the azad hind fauj (you khalistani fudus might as well call the azad hind fauj the "azad sikh fauj" since you like to give new meanings to words whenever it suits your pathetic interests) fighting the brits and then you have 100,000 sikhs dying for their masters in opposition to the same people that are trying to free them... house nigger much?

this same example applies to all other communities in india like rajputs... but they dont lie about and try to paint a black and white picture of history like khalistanis and rss and pakistanis do.

Edited by JungChamkaur

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