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WJKK WJKF veer ji, I see your point and where your coming from totally 100%, but I know these morons have been upto these sorta things and a lot worse, for a very long time. Reason being one of my close family friends was in a similar situation as this strong sister, but far worser. So from past experiences, I know this organisation hiding behind their titles and the goodness of nirmal establishments get away with it. Hence why I said I have been waiting for when they will get caught and surely they have. Also what "real" evidence are you waiting for to criminalise Thakur Singh? The video clip speaks volumes.

WJKK WJKF I was waiting for something to come out about these so called "Sikhs at the forefront" hiding behind the name of the nirmal damdami taksal created by the satguru to provide education on sikhi, however these people use it to carry out their crimes. People associated to damdami taksal and Thakur Singh have dharamsala's where they say to people experiencing issues and hardships within life that they can help and in many cases reverse black magic spells by their own magic. All resulting in Bibian from the uk, Canada, USA and panjab being raped and Brain washed into believing they are in love with these girls. The parents keep giving these fools their money, the daughters are being insulted and the panth suffers! Believe in the satguru, gurbani and get these fools of our stages, preaching sikhi and practising everything but sikhi! Respect to this sister, showing him for what he really is, it is hard for our sisters to do what she has, I hope thakur Singh and all his cronies from panjab who are in the know get punished by dhan dhan akali nihang shiri guru gobind Singh ji maharaj, who's daughter they have so evidently insulted! WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I don't know anybody lol, much appreciated if you could give me a few numbers please pra.

WJKK WJKF nah veer ji, from the uk. Was looking for a sirisahib suitable for jhatka. But its proving to be difficult as I haven't got spare time to go India unfortunately.

WJKK WJKF Khalsa ji, would you be interested in selling your sirisahib?

WJKK WJKF I'm not sure then, just the way I have heard it and understood it to be used.

WJKK WJKF karela are really bitter as you rightly stated, gaura means bitter, like when someone says, "chaa kauri ah" (my tea's bitter).

WJKK WJKF sorry for the typo, was meant to write vegetarian but auto correct was on. Changed it now and hopefully some one will reply. Thanks

Still waiting for a response from a vegetarian brother or sister.

WJKK WJKF Granths, sikh itias, the akal takhat rehat maryada and the shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji mahraj all state that a sikh can consume Jhatka. As for the Guru Granth Sahib ji, it is not a mere question and answer "book", it is the embodiment of sargun akal purakh waheguru telling the truth of gian within Gian. If a sikh wishes to be vegetarian, so be it, but if a sikh chooses to practice Jhatka to progress his shakti along side his Bhakti, then so be it. It is the Sikhs choice. For the Sikhs who force their view of vegetarianism upon their brothers and sisters, I ask the question: If it is wrong to Jhatkaa animals to consume their flesh and utilise their by products, how is it then justified for the Khalsa fauj, as instructed by the guru to assist in political battles in favour of mogul rule over Hindustan, which have nothing to do with sikhi and obviously then resulted within the slaughter of soldiers on both sides due to political wars and political power? Maybe dhan dhan Baba khanaya ji could have used something other than a animal by product to carry his pure water to all the fallen soldiers. As the sikh soldiers may hav objected to the water being carried in a dead animals gutt? The concept of nirgun and sargun, the basis of sikh philosophy are heavily being over looked, confusing the Semitic ideology of "death" with sikhi, we now fail to understand that the sargun roop of akal purakh waheguru which is within every living being cannot simply "die". WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Interesting topic, I believe that satan is actually a extra terrestrial. As is the god of abrahmic faiths. This so called "god" is actually the same as the Hindu Devta/devias throughout many different ages. The devil is as such, a opposite to the devte, a entity to educate against the education set by the devte without calling them the gods and goddesses of Hinduism. It much more than the confinement of the religion Hinduism. The devil is at war with the god if Abraham, who in essence is actually shiva the extra terrestrial being. All in all, shiva and satan are the creation of the creator, Akal purakh and this game is also wahegurus creation. The five vices are tools used by satan, but satan is not a metaphor for the five vices as the devte/devia where and are victims to the 5 vices, as is satan.

WJKK WJKF It seems like in the attempt to get things right with the anand karaj and interfaith marriages, the committee have unfortunately got it wrong. Maybe you could try again and appeal to the committe, as you have an intention and I presume your husband to be does too of following the gurus rehat? If all fails sister you could try another gurdwara, but don't lose heart. Congratulations also, hope waheguru blesses both you and your husband with happiness, love and the gurus rehat. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF great informational video by a knowledgeable sister. I love it when the gurus gian shines through his sikhs. Would of been even better if she mentioned how the British empire outlawed the practice of jhatka and the reasons behind this action. The 5 inch kirpan sikhs wear today is a direct result of a sikhs martial status been rubbed out. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I'm back, my commusikhism makes sense to me. Guru sahib was Kshatriya, he kneeled down to the five beloved ones ( from different parts of India and from various castes) he then asked for the amrit, the five beloved asked we gave our head for this amrit, what will you give, guru sahib replied EVERYTHING- he gave up his ancestory, his name of rai (meaning king) and he gave up his whole bloodline for let me think...ermmmm in your words... COMMUSIKHISM lol? You still have not answered my questions? Please refer back to my post! When you took amrit were they jatt sikh panj pyare of your goht lol? Did you check? Also did you ask for a separate amrit bowl how once the Hindu hill rajeh did? Get back to me when you go back to the drawing board and find some other bogus claim of your jatt supremacy. If in doubt or at a loss, refer back to one of the pindu jatt supreme personalities like jazzy b or mr Diljit dosanjh who support badal and modi! Great!? Lol, so ridiculous it's absurd! WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I agree with point number 1 totally! Jatts are still pujari of their ancestors and clan elders, hence why "jatt sikh" can never exist. Please refer to the amrit sanchar set by shiri guru gobind singh, it states that ones previous ancestors is denounced and the guru and khalsa ancestory is accepted? Hence why again, their can me no "jatt sikh", just sikh and khalsa. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF lol, you speak of honour yet you do not understand one iota what honour is. You no nothing of me yet you deem yourself better. Based on your posts dear brother, you understand nothing about sikhi. Please tell me what would you say to the faces of the shaheed and our gurus? You have deviated from my question? Do they not stand up to the level if which you do? Also, have you wer read the Shiri Guru Granth Sahib? Or do you just read so called jatt history? The best place for you to be redirected is jattworld.com! They might have a Murti of their of your personal jatt caste what you can do puja too! It is people like you who unfortunately dilute sikhi. It's funny how you can insult someone and state they can't stand at your level when you have know personal knowledge of them. Lol how ridiculous. Your posts highlight how foolish and uneducated you are dear brother. It's kinda sad. Again answer my question, don't deviate from it! Also about me sounding like a Christian? How did you get to that conclusion? Was Jesus Christ a jatt too? When the bhagata de bani is spoken from our Guru Granth Sahib ji do you put your fingers in you ears? Do you believe in the gurbani? Or just jatt history? Actually what makes you a sikh, jatt pride lol? WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I have read some disgusting opinions on this thread, I am ashamed that some contributors link the Nirmal panth of shiri guru nanak dev ji given to him from his kasam, Akal Purakh waheguru to a caste. Many references have been made, but many so called sikhs have missed what the most importance reference, our guru the Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji has to say about caste. The very Mahaan shaheed what gave kurbani for the kaum did so after denouncing their ancestory and caste, yet after so much shaheedi so called khalsa sikhs re-attach ancestory in ahankar. Shame on you. Some have insulted other sikhs turbans? How can you insult another sikhs sovereign crown ordained by Shiri guru gobind Singh ji? For the jatt supremacist disgracing what sikhi stands for, I ask you again, how would you take upon this argument you have of your caste supremacy and shahadat, with all your historical references and percentages in front of all our 10 physical guru Sahibs? Look Shiri guru gobind Singh ji into the eyes and tell him about your supremacy over all the bloodshed he witnessed on battlefields. Talk of your supremacy to the face of Dhan Dhan Shaheed Baba Jeevan Singh ji, then ridicule Dhan Dhan Shaheed Baba Mati Das and Sati Das that their pointy turban is a joke, then I ask you, look into the face of Dhan Dhan Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji and call him a JATT, see what he tells you about when he took amrit from the hands of Dasam Pita Akali Nihang shehn Shah Sjiri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. On all the shaheed bibhiyan/babe's names, the innocent children butchered to death and the 10 gurus, shame on you! I evoke the shakti of these names to mute your blasphemy of my Nirmal panth and guru Granth. Ithias tells us that Shiri guru nanak dev ji walked with his companion Dhan Dhan bhai mardhana to the Vatican, Rome and spoke to the pope. He didn't talk about the benefits of slave trade and reinforcing inequality, or the supremacy of the jatts back in India, he did parchar about equality and the blood of man is all the same. I feel many contributors on this post are missing the point of what sikhi is and what it stands for. It sounds like the contributors are more proud of being jatt, than sikh. If in the case of life and death a jatt needed a blood transplant, would you only chose your blood type from another jatt? Or would you accept blood from anyone to live? WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Dear Brother, To claim that the Nirmal panth of Shiri guru nanaks and the fauj of Akal Purakh is dependant on the jatts or zamindhars is absolutely obsurd, then you say you back it up with references and whatnot. Please take your theory and go and say this to a Nihang Singh from India. I wonder what their reaction would be? The only thing clear to me is you are probably from one of these castes what exists outside of sikhi, however you will not allow yourself to overcome this shackle of ancestry and accept the khalsa as your ancestry due to your proudness and claim. Your opinion states basically that only the zamindhars can basically call themselves martial sikhs and they contributed heavily in war? This is such a ridiculous statement and argument within sikhi. Accept the fact that once amrit is accepted, your ancestry is khalsa, not jatt or anything else. I would live to listen to you have and elaborate you opinion on the jatts and khalsa to shiri guru gobind Singh, backing it up with references lol and seeing his reaction to where people like you have taking his hukum and the khalsa! If you are a pujari to of your ancestors caste, be it, create a idol of your caste elder! But don't bring your caste within our khalsa as the khalsa is freedom of all WORLDY BONDS and links to the one and only Kartar! I'd like to leave you with where I have my found my sources and based my opinion on to which you may take your attention, it's called the SHIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, the living guru of the sikhs! WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Also, the term "Satnam" is not in any way referring to the knowledge of what satan offers or to any affiliation to satan, this entities name being lucifer or Iblis to name a few am has many more names today and throughout time. "Satnam" refers to the one creator who is nameless but is known by many names throughout all of the creators creation through all planets, universes, underworlds, realms and dimensions. This creator has set the rules to which creation abides by, the very war you talk about is governed by the creator. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I understand some of the points you have made, however we as sikhs do not believe in the Abrahamic faiths notion of "god". What you stated about the "IGF" being at war with satan and his minions from Orion, I agree there is a war. Both creations claiming that they are "god" however into religion which I neither left wing or right wing, it is based on truth. If you are searching for the truth you need to understand that the angels, satan, demons, greys, reptilians and humans have to have a creator. This creator is not satan or the Hindu gods and goddesses. The creator is unborn and undead. An entity, which all matter on all planets and realms and the other dimensions should be remembered and worshipped. All enemies and allies are alike and related. The difference is that as us humans, the other creations struggle to remember the creators name and understand we are all linked. I urge you to read the Shii Guru Granth Sahib, this is my teacher and it will lead you to the true name you are searching for, not a god or goddess or angel or another creation, however the true name of the one creator, who is apart of all creation as everything starts and finishes with the creator who is the destroyer and the watcher of all this play. If the worlds established organised religions hide the truth of which satan and his minions wish to disclose, it makes no difference. As our purpose here is to solely merge back with creator. My Jewish brethren and all the Abrahamic faiths are interlinked, as are all the ancient world religions. The Hindu Devtas/ devi's (gods/goddesses) have been labeled "Hindu gods" however these extraterrestrials have to took on many names from many of this worlds languages throughout time. I agree human has also bred and reproduced with these extraterrestrials however, it still does not in no way take away your purpose here. Also blood which runs through the Jew, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh or basically from whatever religion or race is all the same. It is not the human anatomy which is important, it is your soul. Who do you think created your soul or satans? Do you agree satan has to have had some form of start and at some point a finish? The ultimate creator as I said is unborn and undead. If I knew the truth, or if I didn't know the truth, to me as a sikh of Shiri guru nanak dev ji, it makes no difference as I do not want to go to any particular place after death, if I abide by the law given by the creator of all to my teacher, I will not have to go through the normal system after death, governed my these extraterrestrials, even the angel of death will have no jurisdiction over my soul. I hope you understood my staggered reply lol WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF think you got your wires crossed on this one. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Dear Brother, Thanks for enlightening me on this sakhi and directing me to the other literature. I will definately have a read. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Veer ji, is that detail stated in the Shri Gur Panth Prakash? WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF I am trying to be a sikh and I also have nothing against Hindus or the devte/devia. People who are members of the above such parties can only be held to account as they support the opinions of the group to which they offer their support, however to hold every Hindu to this same ideology is ridiculous. I do believe their is now alittle bit of insecurity on behalf of many sikhs, in away a kinda hinduphobia. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF Thankyou brother for the PDF file, should be a good read. Also good to know it's not just me who hear this detail within the sakhi. Thankyou WJKK WJKF