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I agree atheist extremism is as dangerous than religious extremism. We need to realize the root where all this coming from, both atheist and religious extremism comes from one's ego- conditioned mind which is relentless belief that something is wrong - I must fix it through extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride. Throw it previous predecessors following/ certain organized ideology be it religious or 'ism', speeches/ out of context scriptural/code of conducts interpretations amplifies the feeling of extreme self righteousness mixed with ego and pride.

I think attribute of extremism is sub category of wider theme in Gurbani/Gurmat which is manmukh and gurmukh. Anyone who follows Guru's way in sikh context- dual dharam dya ka poot (Dharma is son of Compassion) is Gurmukh which lives and knows that dya - compassion is actual basic foundation of any dharam. To understand and live dya, one has to live and operate from total different way of being than our egoic conditioned psychological mindset. It's a shift of identity where conditioned - personal will/ego is gone and it does not come in a way but one is living and operating through Guru's will (attuned to inner Guru- higher power- pure intuitive consciousness) which cannot even be confined to our worldly moral standards but rather applied on individual to individual case, moment to moment case. One cannot fight or define extremism by western standards but with deep non dual self awareness of creation and creator. From absolute stand point, essence of gurmat - any action done in duality is manmukh act/five vices- where than each actions gets further fragmented into further labels depending on action- whether its anger, hatred, jealously, partiality, violence against innocents, extremism, terrorism etc etc

Absolute spineless action by western powers so called defenders of human rights, as they say- money, oil, power trumps all in this world. There should be sactions against saudi gov't for this atrocities against innocent humans. Western powers know this very well that saudi are hub of wahabi islamic extremism yet they do nothing about it, instead attacking syria.

Thanks for your candid feedback here. We will try more often to remind sangat to stay on topic and not to go off limits and off topic.

~ Sikh Gurpurb Bikrami Calendar 2018 ~

That is correct.

I am in favour of set date range as long as its within certain range within 0-60 days variations. You need to realize we adapt bikrami not due to bhramin influence but rather direct indication in the composition of bara maha (which is composition of discourse given to sangat each month) in sri guru granth sahib ji.

We are locking this thread now temp to edit names but gurdwara name will be there for awareness clarfication purposes as gurdwara falls under public realm not free from public scrutiny and debate.

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Lets make this profound, deep meditative, experiential exercise- Please describe in your own words whats the nature of JOT mentioned in gurbani? Please respond only after some deep contemplation on nature of JOT in meditation. Whilst conceptual reference/interpretation is good initially we would like to encourage sangat to describe nature of JOT in gurbani via direct expereince / insight on nature of Jot through intuitive knowledge (inner bibek/vivek) knowledge which is in all of us. Lets hope to stimulate / perhaps attune this inner bibek/vivek which is in all of us.

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Just wanted to find out from sangat, if you guys working on new sikhi related projects and to perhaps post your rough draft work/opinion/research here for sangat benefit. I have just finished making sikhawareness much more stable, bring the site updates fully up to date. - I might go back to work on translation/get snippets from japji sahib teeka and also will start reading art of war that dalsingh veer posted earlier. It seems like a great book:

Any updates? Looks like we have lost momentum like always, please save you energy for this april meeting, instead capitalize on next election to change wind direction going away from badal.

Basically, i have been getting conflicting dates, some say jan 14 or 15 but some say Dec 31st..which one is it according to bikrami?

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English high elite society seems like dark places as there are so many of these scandals of abuses. When did all this stuff started? It seems to me, its been there for centuries but its highlighting more now due to social media coverage etc.

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I think point is quite proven to anti dasam granth people. If they still don't see their fallacy logic, its their loss and karma. As they say, you can take horse to the water, but you can't make it drink.

We have to realize in indic vedic philosophy term vishnu is referred to both sargun and nirgun, at times its referred to maha vishnu (nirgun), shiv is referred to sada shiv. It's little more complex just like how sri guru gobind singh ji recited deh shiva bor mohe for nirgun - paratma- almighty not sargun shiv. So before jumping to conclusion we need to really contextualize whats being said as we would for gurbani.

Interesting topic. All though i m in the view gurbani can should be only used for cleaning mind to meet supreme jot - atma-paratma. However, there is a puratan view from relative context gurbani can be used at all levels even to get money have prosperity. For example:

http://kam1825.podbean.com/e/avantaran-and-maha-vaak/

wow great sakhi, when i first wrote this sakhi here. I had no idea deep gnosis- supreme unity statement (maha vak) behind Tu sada salamat nirankar but now it all make sense. Vahiguru amazing. Tu (Individual real self-soul) Sada Salamat (Supreme soul-Vahiguroo) http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/15795-~~deep-gnosis-behind-mahavak-in-gurbani~/

Fear can be only truly overcome by impersonal unconditional love(its just loves) and gyan(wisdom) of our true nature which is fearless as there is only ONE in all, all in ONE. There are all kinds of fears ego has, one may overcome visible ones but there are many subtle levels of fear just waiting to arise in consciousness/mind. Even when one is able to reach heights of spirituality one cannot totally free from fear as they also try to sustain an certain stage in spirituality -ego has a fear that it will loose certain stage in spirituality, its only by grace of Satguru (our internal Guru-shabad/shabad gyan-paratma) fear can be totally destroyed. Our true nature is of Supreme- Nirbhauo(Fearless) in mool mantar. Only way to destroy fear is to understand and realize our true nature.Nirbhauo- No fear- fearless as there is only one in all, all in one- fear from what? There is NO other, Ikoankar is all, all is ikoankar. Realizing bhramgyan- one universal light in all including myself is surely Nirbhauo-fearless unconditional fearless love and end of fear.Here now i am speaking to you -i have a fear of loosing platform we speak in for example, or loosing this great sangat of sikhawareness...these are all thougths of fear arising in consciousness, if i start clinging to these thoughts my life will be miserable. I go back truly in dream state, world samsara of suffering so i witness them they are coming and going on their own accord sometimes they are soo powerful, they chase me as a witness state cling to myself at that point there is nothing I can do than let it takes its due course. But again without bhramgyan one cannot truly free from fear, at higher states of spirituality one can tranquilize fear/ego..fear and ego are same thing as they are quality of each other, one can tranquilize fear/ego at higher states but cannot get rid of it until vahiguru full grace dawns. Only way to overcome fear, is natural choiceless spontaneous effortless abidance in fearless- pure awareness/ -shabad JOT gyan- bhramgyan and that cannot come without grace of shabad guru/Gyan internal Satguru-atma-paratma.But in order to receive that grace, we all have to be ready- receptive, quiet-empty of thoughts in meditation, facing towards the source then let nature takes it course, it has to happen as everyone must go back to its source sooner or later.

I am not as only way i think uprising could take place is through political electoral means. Badal and congress has to go from punjab, time for new fresh party- aam admi should be given a chance to run punjab as they have done amazing job in delhi.