Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! All kind of person came on earth before Guru Jee's time, during their time and today also. Lust overpowers all according to the natural instinct one is born with. Kaam begins to settle down in a person who receives the wisdom of true Naam Simran and does it as Nitnem. Please mention the original Vaak of the episode and let's discuss it. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! I request anybody's Guru Mind Singh Khalsa to provide the birthday data, place of birth and time etc. of a Devi or a Deva. Please do this favor to the mankind. I will also be grateful. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! I read the wonderful Vaaks from Charitropakhyaan-The Dasam Granth. ਅਰਘ ਗਰਭ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਪਾਯੋ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਤਊ ਤਿਹਾਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੇ ਕਛੁ ਕਛੁ ਕਹੋ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੪੪॥[/ अरघ गरभ न्रिप त्रियन को भेद न पायो जाइ ॥ तऊ तिहारी क्रिपा ते कछु कछु कहो बनाइ ॥४४॥ Aragh garabh nrip triyan ko bhed na paayoo jaai. Taoo tumhaaree kripaa te kacchu kacchu kaho banaai. Can somebody please explain the above? May I request the experts of Charitropakhyaan to come forward? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Nirgun and Sargun are God Himself. Which molecule of Him should remain in Sansaar and which should get Muktee, move according to His Will. Whom God wants to provide Liberation through His Statue or His Naam, is His Leela. Gurdev is singing Naamdev Jee's realization. ਆਪਨ ਦੇਉ ਦੇਹੁਰਾ ਆਪਨ ਆਪ ਲਗਾਵੈ ਪੂਜਾ ॥ आपन देउ देहुरा आपन आप लगावै पूजा ॥ Aapan deo dehuraa aapan aap lagaavai poojaa. SGGS 1252 By merging in God all merges in Him, also His Statues and His Naam. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and N30 SINGH Jee! This is a good post from you. An important thing is to reconsider from your post. You wrote "however they must rise their surti above from all different types of mukhti and attach with shabad of respective dharam try to reach nirgun through gyan of shabada." Here is God's Grace that plays the key role not anybody's efforts, in my experience. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Better care to meet someone through whom God reveals Himself as Nirgun and Sargun at the same time. Gurdev is singing. ਨਿਰਗੁਣੁ ਸਰਗੁਣੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਕੋਈ ਹੈ ਜੀਉ ਆਣਿ ਮਿਲਾਵੈ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ निरगुणु सरगुणु हरि हरि मेरा कोई है जीउ आणि मिलावै जीउ ॥१॥ NirguNu SarguNu Hari Hari meraa koee he jeeo aaNi milaave jeeo. SGGS Ang 98 Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! The reverend Gurus confirm the existence of Davee by mentioning them often. The enlightened Gurus never say that they are made of stone and have a Moorat. Some are entangled with devee and devas made of stone, criticizing them all life. Blessed ones spend valuable life doing Naam Simran transcending all the statues. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! The true Guru's words originate from the highly conscious state of existence. To understand these words, one needs to grow spiritually with True Naam Simran. Strange some are challenging Guru's words without being aware of their ignorance. Many others are defending Guru's words without tasting growth of consciousness. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and shaheediyan Jee! Please come to know true Simran and find Truth yourself. Sikhs belonging to the worldly religion Sikhism went astray, in my view, since they started replacing God's Names with the exclamatory expression 'Waahiguru'. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Guru Amardaas Jee is singing. ਜੀਵਤੁ ਮਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੈ ॥ jeevatu marai hari naamu vakhaanai. ਐਸਾ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ aisaa bhagutee utamu hoi. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਸੋਇ ॥੨॥ naanak sachi samaavai soi ||2|| SGGS Ang 88 ----- Bhai Gurdaas Jee is singing. ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ । chaaro achhar iku kari vaahaguroo japu mantr japaavai| ਜਹਾ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਫਿਰਿ ਤਹਾ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੪੯॥੧॥ jahaa tay upajiaa dhiri tahaa samaavai ॥49॥1॥ Pauri 1, Vaar 49 ----- My curiosity is to know. Who is singing Truth? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Many people have suggestions on how others should change; The Gur of true Simran works on how they should change. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and Kam1825 Jee! It is the Vaar 6, Pauree 19 and line 2 from Bhai Gurdaas Jee. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing. ਮੂਲ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਸਾਇਣੁ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪੂਰਾ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੫॥ Bhai Gurdaas Jee is singing. ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਮੂਲ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਸਿਮਰਣੁ ਪਰਵਾਣੈ । So-called Sikh Preachers are singing. Mool Mantra is ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ My curiosity is to know. Who is singing Truth? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and The Khalsa Fauj Jee! You wrote "Saying God has 4 arms sure isn't Gurmat because then God is no longer Nirankaar." Please provide the reference of the above with page and line. I will be thankful. You wrote "Mahakaal = great death = death worse than physical death = spiritual death or aatmac death How can it mean God in any circumstances then?" Please take some time and explain. Why is Kaal death and Mahaa Kaal is aatmac death? You wrote "Once again for final time: Nirgun = Without the three elements or Maaya (Above maayaa) Sargun = Sarab Srayst (greatest of all, most inspiring)" Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing. ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਆਕਾਰ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਏਕ ॥ निरंकार आकार आपि निरगुन सरगुन एक ॥ nirankaar aakaar aap nirgun sargun ayk. SGGS Ang 250-11 Is Mahaa Kaal something else than Sargun God Himself? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and The Khalsa Fauj Jee! May I ask if you have ever experienced Mahaa Kaal or you have read about Mahaa Kaal? You wrote "Mahaa Kaal-Bhiaanak Aatmak Maot." I have heard that Aatmaa does not die. Is this the translation from a Sikh? ----- ਅਨਿਕ ਜੋਨਿ ਜਨਮਹਿ ਮਰਹਿ ਆਤਮ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਚੀਨ ॥ अनिक जोनि जनमहि मरहि आतम रामु न चीन ॥ 'anik joni janmahi marahi aatam raamu na cheen'. SGGS Ang 254-12 Saakat through many incarnations gets birth and dies, does not recognize Aatam Raamu. The above Vaak explains that the Saakat gets birth and dies. Aatam accompanies one through all incarnations. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Participants on this forum seem to be learned people. I hope I get my curiosity satisfied here. Some feel they cannot read Dasam Granth because it uses words like 'Ling', 'Bhag' etc. The same people are but convinced and dedicated readers of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. The above words are also written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. My curiosity is to know how they manage it. Please explain. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Shaheediyan Jee! The sehaj living of truthful people is eating a mango when it comes to that. They do not visit a fruit forum to watch photos of fruits and collecting information about fruits, that also whole life. Balbir Singh PS: The topic here is Dasam BaaNee.

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all! Some experts claim they have understood Charitra-up-aakhyaan well, specially lines that refer karmendriya. God has given karmendriya (organs) to all beings. God's Will, known as lust (Kaam), engages the being in worldly matters maintaining Sansaara. God's Will, known as Naam, leads the blessed being toward bliss and liberation. Charitra-up-aakhyaan is the wonderful collection of Hymns explaining how Kaam engages one with the moving (char) three Gunas (tri), Sansaara. We may discuss each and every episode. Readers who know True Simran may understand it easily. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and chatanga1 Jee! Everyone can read books about mangoes after he has learnt reading. But reading a book about mangoes after eating it, is a different experience. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all! This thread is to discuss Guru Gobind Singh Jee's BaaNee. 'Bipran Kee Reet' is the title of a book written by someone else, perhaps a Bipar. Please refer a Vaak from Guru Gobind Singh Jee. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Kam1825 Jee! Quote "kam is my name you freak and 1825 is my warrant card number as i work in the police." It sounds like it is the Kamraa (room) number 1825. Get ready for some basic questions on Sikhism meanwhile. I am leaving for Holy Days, till then. ************** Thanks Begum. Make me popular. God may decorate you with ornaments and more cosmetics. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Drawrof Jee! Quote "I just read the above, could you qualify this statement with proof. thanks!" Come to know true Simran. All your questions about this will vanish. The other way is to discuss Bhai Gurdas Jee's poems one by one. Please ask the so-called learned people if they want to participate. I have mentioned some differences on different forums already. ************** Quote from Begum Jee "In Guru Nanak’s composition Guru means God or Sabad (Truth) because Guru Nanak had no human guru." May I ask if all the Gurus from Guru Angad Dev Jee up to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee had a Guru person or not? Quote "Furthermore, in the entire AGGS, there is not a single verse that advocates the worship of Guru person as a deity. That the Guru person is a medium for propagation of Truth is explained very clearly by Guru Amar Das to ignorant followers who worshiped the Guru person as a deity." Please explain. What was the behavior of the Gurus toward their Guru as person? I will be thankful. Why did the Gurus not paint or got painted the pictures of the previous Gurus? Also, please always provide a reference from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee when mention the statement of the Gurus. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Chatanga Jee! Quote "Can you explain why you believe that Bhai Gurdas' varan should be discarded wholesale?" This is an example. Suppose someone knows the taste of a mango. Now whatever he says about mangoes is truth. It does not matter what language he speaks. Even a dumb person's tongue twister will be true. Some others may have never tasted a mango. They may recite poems remembered about mangoes referring pages with lines, full stops and commas. It is not truth. Bhai Gurdas Jee's poetry has many flaws. It says things that are misleading signals on the spiritual path the true Gurus have shown. Quote "If these varan were never part of Sikh litereature, can you explain at what time they crept in?" From the time preachers, greedy for profit, started preferring ignorance unconsciously. The true Sikhi started declining. I feel it is also God's Will. Quote "Surely the great saints of yestercentury would have raised the same points that you have raised today, if there was any doubt about the eachings for Sikhs?" Please come to know true NAM Simran that clears all doubts. Pointing anybody is not the answer. Quote "Why do you mock others for saying that they have the company of Guru Granth Sahib, after all isnt that what all Sikhs including yourself aspire to?" Getting straight with ignorance is not mocking anybody. Without True Simran nobody can reveal the Guru's Wisdom. Bhai Gurdas Jee's poetry is not the substitute of NAM Simran. It saddens that preachers have infected Sikhi with this serious disease, calling his poetry the key to the Guru's Wisdom. ************** Quote from Das Jee "there are some places along the journey where Waheguru(now do not start debating that why calling Him Waheguru) gives you something which could result in deviatation from your TRUE path." God is already caring. Thanks for your concern. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all and Kam1825! Kam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Ahankar are the five thieves in a being. How come those have increased up to 1825? The true Guru is the Sabad Guru. The Sabad Guru shows one the path to move while leading. This is the Guru Panth. An egoistic Sikh does not move on any Panth nor he has any. Quote from Xylitol Jee "Why else does japji sahib have the sunai pauris? listen, and then manai pauris come afterwards, so you'll know what to obey." Gaaviay, Suniay and Mannay reveal the wisdom of JAP. Those are not different stages but take place at once. Also, all these statements from Gurdev are about Jap, not reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Dear all! Quote from Shaheediyan "If you can make blanket attacks on the whole Sikh tradition." I have pointed few ignorant activities that have crept in Sikhism because of wrong education and lacking knowledge or sophistication. Why are some disturbed, specially when they are not engaged with such rituals? The true Sikh tradition is God's Wisdom through the Gurus. Quote "Critisising others for being "business preachers" whilst having openly advertised and practiced this yourself." I hope no one has become poor by paying for it. Perhaps some are worrying about inheriting their Papa's business. Quote "tell us in this world of Sub Guru's and business preachers, who is a real Sadhu, in whom's company did you recieve naam." My true Guru is the Sabad Guru, not a sub Guru. The Name of the Sabad Guru is not to write. The description of a real Sadhu is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Quote "And for your info, I am not in the company of a sub guru, only Jagdi Jyot Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj." Please get up. It is already morning. A Manmukh is always interested in personal information, the persona fata morgana. Balbir Singh