Sikhilove

Taking care of mind body and spirit is important, so working, exercising and simran/meditation. 

Discipline is good and going deep into the meditation. 

On 10/2/2015 at 9:53 PM, SAadmin said:

The primary teaching of every religion? Funny yet truthful meme

 

 

 

The core messages are yes to be good. But many of these religions have become corrupted over the years.

7 hours ago, Lucky said:

 

 

You are completely off the mark here and trying to mix 3 things together.  It's these type of misleading comments that get people confused into mixing astral travel, sleep paralysis and simran/sunn.   Have a look through search features on forum and you'll find explanations for differences in sleep paralysis, astral plane and sunn.   

 

Brother. I understand the differences between the different types of paralysis, I’ve experienced most of them.

 If you sat for simran, open your eyes and see or a feel pret in front of you paralyzing you, What would u do. People walk the path and have different experiences. My experiences of being paralyzed were to teach me that God IS the Prets, the spirits. If someone says they felt uneasy then it’s their call, not yours, for their experiences are their own. 
 

I just sat for simran now and my body became paralyzed in the positive way. But when I was starting out on the path, when I was washing off my Karams and coming across a lot of spirits, I was also paralyzed in negative ways. We cannot invalidate anyone else’s experiences. God will cause us to experience what he wishes us to experience.

On 12/23/2020 at 12:30 PM, Mooorakh said:

Waheguru Ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh all

I am sorry but i don't agree to the sounds being negative - Gurumukhs always believe in "sab Gobind hai" they don't find any thing negative and are always positive- Nanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas 

Only a person walking on the path of bhakti hears these sounds, if they would have been negative or from hell( lol) they would be common among all Indian politicians and so on..  as for body being paralysed that happens every time one tends to enter sunn. -i am sure  that's common among abhiyaasis ( haina @Lucky @Sat1176 @HisServant veerji . That happens as we put all our attention to the mind;(our concentration gets accumulated at one place) and takes us a considerable amount of effort to bring it back to the body, there's this paralysed feeling till then.. its Samadhi state i guess.

 

 

 

There are different types of paralysis. I know a lot of people who have been paralyzed by spirits/ sleep paralysis. Everyone’s on their own stage and has their own experiences, it comes down to trusting yourself and the gyan within that we all have.

20 hours ago, Sat1176 said:

Please don’t try and put negative ideas into peoples head. If someone during abhiyaas someone encounters something negative let them state else it’s just speculation on our part. I would say to everyone remain positive until you personally encounter something which frightens you. These days there are so many Gurmukhs one can consult so no need to worry.

Like I said, it’s up to your intuition and how you feel. God sits in every heart and sometimes, you need to trust in him.
 

The additional gyan is that everyone everything everywhere is God, so even if you encounter what you perceive to be a negative spirit, just accept that it’s God. Then you’ve seen the Actual Truth of the situation. 

On 12/22/2020 at 10:08 PM, seattlesingh said:

what do you think if it was neutral sounding?

It depends how it makes you feel. In bhagti, you need to hone in on and trust in your intuition. That feeling you get when something feels right or doesn’t feel right, you need to listen to it. God gives us Anhad Naad sometimes in different ways, Im no one to judge how anyone hears it. 

On 1/21/2020 at 3:04 PM, Ragmaala said:

I had a weird experience that I wanted to share, maybe someone had something similar and can shed some light on it. Some background info, I have been going to waheguru japa sessions at a local gurudwara  regularly in the last week, and have been actively listening utube videos regarding naam simran. Todays morning session felt more relaxing and peaceful than usual, and as the tabla was playing I felt the vibrations in my spine which were pleasant. Usually i get sleepy but today I didnt feel sleepy at all but felt very refreshed. 

So I came home and took a nap. When i was sleeping i became aware that I am dreaming. i cant recall the dreams. What I remember is that i started hearing combination of sounds some of which i cant recall.  Sounds were a combination of ringing, machine vibrating, crickets, and electronic type sounds hard to explain. I started focusing on these and they kept getting loud and loud to a point where I got scared and uncomfortable. Then I realized my body was paralysed and I couldn’t move at all. That was scary. I started to shake myself off and was eventually able to wake up. its been 2 hours now. i can still hear a very mild hint of some ringing type sounds. 
 

Has anyone had something similar happened to them while sleeping ? Thanks,
 

 

It depends how the sounds made you feel. If they made you uneasy and the paralysis feeling was negative, as if you felt something was trying to get you or harm you, they were probably from hell/ negative spirits.

If they were soothing and made you feel at ease and more relaxed, they could have been Anhad Naad. I’ve heard both, I got paralyzed a lot back in the day by negative spirits/ demons etc. 

When you do simran and hear actual Anhad Naad, and your body becomes still and doesn’t move alot, it should be a calming, nice feeling.

On 12/6/2020 at 10:39 AM, Guest Charan said:

I m doing meditation for few months and feel pressure on forehead most of the time like energy. Sometimes during meditation I feel like my forehead melting.

 

Does Any one have any experience?

Yes. It’s a good sign, Your trikurti, third eye working. Keep going. You’ll have sensations all over eventually..relax and let the samadhi take you, go deep into it. Feel the Truth presence and trust in it.

On 7/1/2005 at 6:24 PM, karmjeet said:

wjkk wjkf ,

 

pyareo ,

i just wanted to ask that is there anybody here who has managed to remain still in one asan for 3 hrs continuously . if so , please advise me how to do it .

Did u feel pain in ur legs and hips ? did it go after a lot of practise .?

becus i am trying to be still in one asan as long as possible with gur kirpa .

but after 30-40 it starts paining in legs ( by the way i use padmasana )

and after some time the pain becomes unbearable , so then i just stand up .

and after that i just sit in a comfortable position and then finally sleep takes over

if anybody has gone through this please discuss .

wjkk wjkf

Just sit, be silent and sit in a comfortable position, relax, let go and let the samadhi take you. When you go deep into it, it doesn’t matter how you’re sitting or lying down, as long as it’s comfortable. You’ll start having a sensation where your body goes numb and won’t move, and the simran continues. Let the naam take over.

Hi All

There are nationwide protests around the UK tomorrow in support of the farmers in Punjab. Please join to show your support and hopefully we can make a difference.

Satnaam Ji 

Hi

Is anyone joining these protests in London tomorrow?

18 hours ago, Kaur1313 said:

thank you everyone,  I am trying very hard

Don’t try hard. It happens according to His Grace. Do it with love. Apply gurbani to your life during the day (Truthful living), and jaap at night. Have no expectations, relax and enjoy it. The path is endless. But He hears you. 

Welcome. This is one of the best forums out there from what I’ve seen so you’re in a good place. You won’t always agree with everything everyone says but it’s good to discuss things sometimes. I would suggest reading the whole GGSJi or random pages and applying them to your life/ remembering them. Truth is overall so if you understand and apply, you can’t go wrong. The Gyan is the Guru, Guru is the Gyan. 

On 11/13/2020 at 2:44 AM, PhunkeyPhish said:

Hi everyone, 

I am relatively new to Sikhi faith and have been studying/practicing off and on for the past few years now. Prior to Sikhi I practiced Buddhism for the better part of 15 years and before that was raised Christian and "dabbled" in Judaism before being introduced to Indian philosophy and religion. Lately I have been learning more about Hinduism, specifically Advaita Vedanta. At the moment I kind of consider myself to be a Vedanta-Nanakpanthi. I see a lot of overlap between Advaita Vedanta and Sikhi and for me Vedanta helps me with the philosophical and knowledge while Sikhi helps me more with the devotional side of my spirituality.

My question for the forum is recommendations to further my study and practice of Sikhi. I have read several books on the life and teachings of Guru Nanak, along with books summarizing all the Gurus and history of the Sikhs, as well. I have also read some of the Guru Granth Sahib. In addition to these readings, I read the Bhagavad Gita and Upanishads as part of my spiritual practice, as well. Any recommendations for other Sikh readings, or other suggestions to further my knowledge and experience of Sikhi? 

Thanks everyone, 

Om shanti shanti shanti. 

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh. 

Hi, try reading Guru Granth Sahib Ji in its entirety. And apply the gyan taught in it to your everyday life. Remember the gyan throughout the day, and when maya comes, react in Truth, not in BS. 

On 11/10/2020 at 10:28 PM, Lucky said:

This is just a blanket statement unless you know otherwise. Gyan is not that simple and it's not about just accepting that he's all.

There are many members in this thread that discuss specific and validated practices. Other members try their best to answer questions as explicitly as possible or guide towards a specific source where available.  No offense, but blanket statements or vague quotes are not what readers from all over the world look for in this particular thread.

Believe me, there are some members  that can see the brahm-jyot in and all around them if they put their dhyian there. But that's just a preliminary stage towards ever seeing the waheguru in all like Bhai Kanhaiya did whilst attending and comforting both muslims and sikhs on the same battlefield.     To say that great gurmukhs like him felt that stage by "just accepting he's all", is an insult to their avasthas.

There is so much kamayee needed before one can get to that stage and that gurmukh's surti would be in turiya avastha at ALL times whilst he's astool (physical) dehi is in maya.    

 

With regards to the tiger, either defend yourself (if possible as Guru Gobind Ji did), run or get eaten. Humans still need to accept hukam and karam. The Gurus accepted shaheedi, Some in awful ways, but we accept nevertheless. They realised it was just God, and accepted.

3 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Waheguru ji, 

You are absolutely correct, I am not contradicting any thing you wrote nor m trying to argue. All I am saying is what I understand as per my experience. Being Nirbhau isn't easy. We all know Guru Nanak sahib told us that my waheguru ji has these amazing attributes. He's Nirbhau, Nirvair, Akaal moorat, KartaPurakh, ajoooni .... I would love to go on and on On this...  we all want to be like our supreme Dad of course. 

But it isn't easy. I have seen many abhiyaasis getting scared in their Abhyaas. I have felt a terror myself. Being Nirbhau is just isn't something you can do to yourself it's his grace- avastha that he himself imparts when and only when one Trust him- surrender to him completely. - hun Tu jaan Waheguru meri Dori haath tumhare. Tu farr mainu..  mai kujh nahi bass tu hi tu hai jo hai.. 

@harsharan000 one n first positive response from you. Made my day">">. 

 

I understand what you mean. What I’ve learned is that the gyan is simple. It begins with accepting he’s all, and the fearlessness comes. It took me years and I still fall often. But it’s comforting to know it’s all just Him. 

20 hours ago, Guest Sangat said:

You are the user Sat1 from SikhSangat

 

No, I’m Sikhilove from sikh philosophy, I don’t use sikh Sangat 

On 11/5/2020 at 12:33 PM, Mooorakh said:

I am sorry but i feel nirbhau and Nirvair are those distinctive qualities of Akal Purakh which can only be attained once a person reaches a certain Avastha. First step is to just walk towards this direction. Pray to waheguru ji that i want to walk on the path of 'liv' .. request him to pick his child or make him walk on his path. That's all one can do.. Rest is all in his hands. If he makes you do his Bhakti, Jap naam, enter sunn and imparts to different Avastha etc.  Haina?? 

At a time we start realising our faults and bads.. get to know the rights n wrongs... Somehow gets connected to sangat n so on... 

The gyan, the teachings are all in Gurbani. They’re not there to be read like a recipe over. They’re there to be applied in action, in simran ie remembrance.
 

If Guru Nanak, as the Great Teacher, Taught that He is Nirboah and Nirvair, why would we not remember/ accept/ apply that Truth, in humility, instead of ignoring it in procrastination and ego. To give our heads, we must accept that we are Nothing, in humility. Truth is so simple, we ourselves complicate it. 
 

He’s right there, staring you in the face. You just have to believe it. Being of a high avastha or whatever is of no consequence. When your lover is sitting right in front of you, why ignore them? 
 

Bandgi, doing good deeds etc is great, but the first step is to accept the Truth Reality, that it’s all Him. 

On 10/29/2020 at 8:11 PM, Sat1176 said:

This thread is more than just experiences. It is a more like a dairy that documents our journey to understand simran, the inner journey and what we are learning and experiencing along they way by a number of individuals. The posts contain subtle hints that may help someone in the future.

We might not have all the answers today but as I see in my own journey things I read 10+ years ago are presenting themselves again via different channels. There is some hidden truth out there which I don’t fully understand yet but I hope I am making slow progress in the right direction. 

 

The first step is to live in Nirboah and Nirvair. Recognize and naturally in sehaj accept that He’s everyone, everything, everywhere. There’s nothing He doesn’t power, He’s All pervading. So we Never Fear Anything or Anyone and become All Loving, for it’s All Him/ Truth.  

10 hours ago, PCSJZ said:

Wjkk wjkf

I have a question that I need some help on. We hear that a real Gurmukh treats everyone the same and shows no impartiality to different people as they see Waheguru in all. 
 

What then if you think you are experiencing this? As in you feel that a Gurmukh is treating you differently to others which leaves you feeling a little upset? I appreciate that our avastha is not high enough to understand what a Gurmukh is thinking but still any insight would be greatly appreciated. 
 

Hope the question is clear and not confusing.

 

Wjkk Wjkf

Maybe he’s not a real Gurmukh. Plenty of self proclaimed Gurmukhs out there who talk the talk but who’s inner state doesn’t match their claims. 
 

How does he treat you differently?

6 hours ago, zereraz said:

I agree with blind faith, simply loving and doing naam simran is best and supreme but don't just assume I'm talking about simply dreaming and astral world.

I'm trying to follow Gurbani but using the interesting interpretation or khulasa done by Bhai Sewa Singh, I hear what he says, he quotes Bani and he is not talking about dreams and visions, that is all. 

There is only Truth, only Oneness, only Akal Purakh, yes all is within Hukum, high lows all him, even you writing and me writing all comes from+within+by Waheguru.

Many people with blind faith may have incorrect idea about Akal Purakh, when Gurus and Gursikhs were literally able to see him Hadra Hadoor(nirakar, not saying some image here), all around and do Bhakti there what is even blind faith when one can see, hear nothing but Waheguru and I do not believe Sikhi talks about just blind faith but talks about experiencing Waheguru while alive and get out of reincarnation(equivalent to merging with Akal Purakh), but I'm new to most of this so can be wrong. I do believe Sikhi is practical, experiential and not only does one know by "Gyaan" and bhakti that this is illusion but also experientially.

 

SSA

 

Yes, you can only experience it, and it’s beyond logic. Hence we apply the gyan and learn as we move on the never ending path. 

6 hours ago, zereraz said:

So I'm practicing daily, made early gains in terms of various experiences in meditation, even if one thinks they are far away I believe most just haven't tried it properly, so I'd recommend daily before sleep(or power nap) just trying to relax body(like really do it, little by little keep relaxing), dhyan state can only come from doing naam simran(breath + chanting) and listening to yourself(like minds ears, eventually some of the 5 shabads come here) otherwise there is no dhyan, beat the stage of thoughts, it maybe your breathing itself that might distract you, do it per breath with concentration and as you keep relaxing your body will fall asleep(it is astonishing and various Anand's can be felt which will feel unreal and amazing). Also I didn't read about this on the internet or from anyone this was an awakening experiences where I randomly meditated for 6+ hours(without simran, didn't know much about it) where I learnt that this was real and then saw 7-8 months later Bhai Simranjeet Singh talking about this as the right thing to do(a vidhi, technique), to me it is like Akaal Purakh waking me up from deep manmukh slumber, I was also able to sleep like 2 hours and wake up refreshed but eventually due to no naam simran I lost the avastha.

I've experienced and witnessed my own body fixing itself(rare times painful to watch it stitch parts damaged in gym), quite blissful experience overall and makes it easy to do naam simran even at night(and now understand how 8 pehar is actually possible but so hard and intense, only in deep true love will one do it like that).

 

I'm sorry but I do not agree here, I'm not trying to get Riddhi, Siddhi here, from what I have understood what Bhai Sewa Singh has disclosed using only gurbani is that we daily leave our bodies(I'm sure everyone here knows about Dasam Dwaar), and we may even get instructions there, drink amrit(hence mind wakes up refreshed), even rehras can be looked at finding the path back to where our mind enters body every day. So if you daily leave your body and daily come back only issue here is bhakti is low so we forget or drown in thoughts. The path here is to do 8 pehar naam simran or however max and this itself will take the mind to the gate of dasam dwaar and eventually there is prakash, none of this is outside hukum and I'd even argue this is the best karam, to wait outside the dasam dwaar outside thoughts, vichaar(given by 5 thieves), dhyaan always at feet of waheguru doing naam simran until there is prakash. Humai is significantly reduced so you do not want Riddhi Siddhi, there is barely you, like water in milk your mind slowly instead of feeling like a point in our head feels like immersed in something and can't point where it is/you are.

I just haven't reached the prakash stage, real hukum according to me is to not forget what happened when your mind left and came back, what was the dhyan related experience of begumpura and not to go into random dreams by kaal(thanks to 5 thieves).

Of course I'm new to all this, 1-2 years max, been researching many religions(left atheism and to spirituality) until realized what Sikhi itself was actually talking about, all practical from my current understanding and love it.

 

Only bhakti, only purify mind, remove humai as that itself is false hood, agreed about deep love for lotus feet, I've not reached deep love state but I've been able to reach sehaj and do naam simran with some love as of now, I want the love to increase, even fear to be remembered. All that can and does happen is within Hukum and up to Waheguru.

 

Yes I agree with what you said, I do not want astral projection as well just to not get caught up in dreams of kaal, agreed about messages in dreams want to retain it more due to naam simran one is ever present and aware, to actually remember where the mind went while doing naam simran and if possible take it to the right path while doing bhagti not having desires for any supernatural or cool experience, no haumai, vichaar. Yes craving experiences is bad and I did learn it the hard way but listening to shabads during meditation did enhance my experience, my aim is to only follow Gurbani nothing else.

Thank you all for responding ">

Sat Sri Akal 

The thing is, that God gives us guidance in our dreams and waking life as visions, messages etc. So respect them. But I know a Brahmgyani who lived a few years in blind faith, and hasn’t fallen. Very rare as many of us use visions to believe and accept gyan. Blind faith is applying and practicing gurbani without the need for visions etc. It shows that true love isn’t dependent on anything, it’s just Love. You feel it, you don’t need to see it or be attached to an image for it. 
 

Someone on here had a good point in that, were here to experience Life living in the 3rd energy.. the astral realm is there when we die. The lessons we learn here can be so profound. On earth, you can realise that the realms, this world, are false. It is a dream and an illusion. We live a story. You realise there is Only Truth, which existed before image and will continue to exist. This is partly how you come to realise Oneness of all things and beings. To accept in humility, that there’s only Truth. There’s only True Love. You live your story, but you’re not attached to the highs and lows, realising it all to just be Him/ Truth. 

On 5/2/2015 at 1:01 AM, paapiman said:

 

Good one bro. Ego is such a bloody dangerous demon.

 

Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa

Waheguru jee kee Fateh

God is One, Truth is One, We are One. It is beyond logic and can only be experienced. The reality is True Unconditional Love. Love in Dukh and Sukh. Both two sides of the same coin. 
 

There is no ego, it’s an illusion. As is fear etc. We may walk around, thinking we’re rebelling, that we’re beyond God etc. But the reality is that Hes your clothes, He’s the sun, Hes day and Night, Hes the food you eat, your father, mother, brother, sister, Your glory, Body etc. We are fools to think we are separate.
 

When we truly sit within ourselves, grounded, seeing past the illusion, we see that He is Us and we are Him. We are not higher or lower, better or worse, richer or poorer. We are Him. He is not beyond Us,and we are not beyond Him, for He Is Us. We realise this In humility and love. 
 

He is not unattainable, He is right here, we are One.