GurjantGnostic

The Hindu mantar for God right now is Ram, for 1, not Ram as in Rama.

ਪਉੜੀ੭:ਤਥਾਚ 7 : tathaach As Above ਕਲਿਜੁਗੁਚਉਥਾਥਾਪਿਆਸੂਦ੍ਰਬਿਰਤਿਜਗਮਹਿਵਰਤਾਈ। kalijug chauthaa thaapiaa soodhr birat jag meh varataiee| Kalijug became prevalent as the fourth age in which the low instincts gripped the whole world. ਕਰਮਸੁਰਿਗਿਜੁਜਰਸਿਆਮਕੇਕਰੇਜਗਤੁਰਿਦਿਬਹੁਸੁਕਚਾਈ। karam su rig jujar siaam ke kare jagat ridh bahu sukachaiee| People became resultant in performing of the duties enjoined in the Rig, Yajur and Samaveda. ਮਾਇਆਮੋਹੀਮੇਦਨੀਕਲਿਕਲਿਵਾਲੀਸਭਿਭਰਮਾਈ। maahiaa mohee medhanee kal kal vaalee sabh bharamaiee| The entire earth got enticed by mammon and the antics of the Kalijug put everyone into delusion. ਉਠੀਗਿਲਾਨਿਜਗਤ੍ਰਿਵਿਚਿਹਉਮੈਅੰਦਰਿਜਲੈਲੁਕਾਈ। auttee gilaan jagat vich haumai a(n)dhar jalai lukaiee| Hatred and degeneracy engrossed the people and ego burnt one and all. ਕੋਇਨਾਕਿਸੈਪੂਜਦਾਊਚਨੀਚਸਭਿਗਤਿਬਿਸਰਾਈ। koi naa kisai poojadhaa uooch neech sabh gat bisaraiee| Nobody now worships anyone and the sense of respect for the younger and elder has vanished into thin air. ਭਏਬਿਅਦਲੀਪਾਤਸਾਹਕਲਿਕਾਤੀਉਮਰਾਇਕਸਾਈ। bhe biadhalee paatasaeh kal kaatee aumarai kasaiee| In this cutter age the emporers are tyrants and their satraps butchers. ਰਹਿਆਤਪਾਵਸੁਤ੍ਰਿਹੁਜੁਗੀਚਉਥੇਜੁਗਿਜੋਦੇਇਸੁਪਾਈ। rahiaa tapaavas tirahu jugee chauthe jug jo dhei su paiee| The justice of three ageshas become extinct and now whosoever gives something (as bribe) gets (justice?). ਕਰਮਭ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਸਭਿਭਈਲੋਕਾਈ॥੭॥ karam bhirasaT sabh bhiee lokaiee ||7|| The mankind has become wanting in dexterity of action. Bhai Gurdaas Ji in No Raag - 1

ਪਉੜੀ੬:ਤਥਾਚ 6 : tathaach As Above ਤ੍ਰੇਤੇਛਤ੍ਰੀਰੂਪਧਰਿਸੂਰਜਬੰਸੀਵਡਿਅਵਤਾਰਾ। trete chhatree roop dhar sooraj ba(n)see vadd avataaraa| In Treta in the Sun-dynasty descended in the form of the kshatriya(Ram) a great incarnation. ਨਉਹਿਸੇਗਈਆਰਜਾਮਾਇਆਮੋਹੁਅਹੰਕਾਰੁਪਸਾਰਾ। nau hise giee aarajaa maiaa moh aha(n)kaar pasaaraa| Now the nine portions of age lessened and illusion,attachment and ego inflated. ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿਜਾਦਵਵੰਸਕਰਿਜੁਗਿਜੁਗਿਅਉਧਘਟੈਆਚਾਰਾ। dhuaapur jaadhav ves kar jug jug aaudh ghaTai aachaaraa| In Dvapar, Yadav-dynasty came to the forefront i.e. the incarnation of Krishna became known to the people; but because of the lack of good conduct, Age by Age, the life span (of man) went on decreasing. ਰਿਗਬੇਦਮਹਿਬ੍ਰਹਮਕ੍ਰਿਤਿਪੂਰਬਮੁਖਿਸੁਭਕਰਮਬਿਚਾਰਾ। rig bedh meh braham kirat poorab mukh subh karam bichaaraa| In the Rgveda the conduct of the brahmin and the ideas about the actions done facing the East were discussed. ਖਤ੍ਰੀਥਾਪੇਜੁਜਰੁਵੇਦਿਦਖਣਮੁਖਿਬਹੁਦਾਨਦਾਤਾਰਾ। khatree thaape jujar vedh dhekhan mukh bahu dhaan dhaataaraa| Kshatriyas became related to the Yajurveda and started pouring charities while facing the South. ਵੈਸੋਂਥਾਪਿਆਸਿਆਮਵੇਦੁਪਛਮੁਮੁਖਿਕਰਿਸੀਸੁਨਿਵਾਰਾ। vaiso(n) thaapiaa siaam vedh pachham mukh kar sees nivaaraa| The vaishyas embraced the Samaveda and bowed to the West. ਰਿਗਿਨੀਲੰਬਰਿਜੁਜਰਪੀਤਸ੍ਵੇਤੰਬਰਿਕਰਿਸਿਆਮਸੁਧਾਰਾ। rig neela(n)bar jujar peet savaieta(n)bar kar siaam sudhaaraa| Blue dress for Rgveda, yellow for Yajurveda and for singing of the hymns of Samaveda wearing of the white dress became a tradition. ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁਜੁਗੀਤ੍ਰੈਧਰਮਉਚਾਰਾ॥੬॥ tirahu jugee trai dharam auchaaraa ||6|| Thus three duties of the three Ages were enunciated. Bhai Gurdaas Ji in No Raag - 1

ਪਉੜੀ੫:ਜੁਗਆਦਿਕ pauRee 5 : ju'g aadhik The Yugs ਚਾਰਿਜੁਗਿਕਰਿਥਾਪਨਾਸਤਿਜੁਗਤ੍ਰੇਤਾਦੁਆਪਰੁਸਾਜੇ। chaar jug kar thaapanaa satijug tretaa dhuaapar saaje| The four Ages (yugs) were established and the first three were given names Satyug, Treta, Dvapar. Fourth one was Kaliyug. ਚਉਥਾਕਲਿਜੁਗੁਥਾਪਿਆਚਾਰਿਵਰਨਿਚਾਰੋਂਕੇਰਾਜੇ। chauthaa kalijug thaapiaa chaar varan chaaro(n) ke raaje| And four castes came to be known as the kings of four ages. Brahmin, kshatriya, vaishya and sudhra became predominate in each age. ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣਿਛਤ੍ਰੀਵੈਿਸਸੂਦ੍ਰਿਜੁਗੁਜੁਗੁਏਕੋਵਰਨਬਿਰਾਜੇ। brahaman chhatree vais soodhr jug jug eko varan biraaje| In Satiyug, Vishnu is said to have come to earth as Hansavaar and explained the problems pertaining to ਸਤਿਜੁਗਿਹੰਸਅਉਤਾਰੁਧਰਿਸੋਹੰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁਨਦੂਜਾਪਾਜੇ। satijug ha(n)s aautaar dhar soha(n) braham na dhoojaa paaje| Metaphysics (The story is there in the eleventh canto of the Bhagvat Purana), and nothing but one soham-Brahm was discussed and pondered upon. ਏਕੋਬ੍ਰਹਮੁਵਖਾਣੀਐਮੋਹਮਾਇਆਤੇਬੇਮੁਹਤਾਜੇ। eko braham vakhaaneeaai moh maiaa te bemuhataaje| Getting indifferent to maya, people would praise one Lord. ਕਰਨਿਤਪਸਿਆਬਨਿਵਿਖੈਵਖਤੁਗੁਜਾਰਨਿਪਿੰਨੀਸਾਗੇ। karan tapasiaa ban vikhai vakhat gujaaran pi(n)nee saage| They would go to forests and pull on life by eating natural vegetations. ਲਖਿਵਰ੍ਹਿਆਂਦੀਆਰਜਾਕੋਠੇਕੋਟਿਨਮੰਦਰਿਸਾਜੇ। lakh var(h)hiaa dhee aarajaa kotte koT na ma(n)dhir saaje| Though they lived for lacs of years but they would construct the palaces, forts and grand mansions. ਇਕਬਿਨਸੈਇਕਅਸਥਿਰੁਗਾਜੇ॥੫॥ eik binasai ik asathir gaaje ||5|| On the one hand the world was passing away and on the other the life current would go stably. Bhai Gurdaas Ji in No Raag - 1

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Har was the Mantar when Krishna was the prominent influence. Wait lemme check. Gobind. Do we have evidence of Krishna being used as a name for Akal Purakh?

Yes but Gurbani comments on that as not being Naam Simran. When doing worship of Devi Devte. If a hindu says Bhagwan or Parabraham, or Vishnu, Har, Gobind, Ram the Mantar not devte names they are doing Naam Simran.

Excellent. Praise God.

Wow. Seva means you're healthy enough to go...so if she was burden...how backwards...boooo

Self defense claim seemed to be accepted.

There are times when one can truly love America.

I guess the irony was lost on you

You need Jesus bro.

You'll be calling out to the 1 Creator God above all else by his attributes as given in Gurbani. If you do this sincerely, you will have done this sincerely. Although some of the brothers who do massive Jaaps I'm sure have some pointers.

Ram the Devi Devte for example is named for the Naam Mantar he was to deliver. Ram is a Devi Devte and a Naam for 1, but these Rams are not the Same. Is Krishna a Naam for 1 or just a Devi Devte?

Naam any Name for 1. Goes far betond any tradition, language, culture, planet, universe. The amount of Naam are countless. But they are all in reference to Vaheguru Akal Purakh. Naam Jaapna is saying it. Daat not sure, gift of Naam? Gurmantar is when you Jaap Sat Naam given by Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Vaheguru. Naam, name for God, Gurmantar, Vaheguru, Gur Ku Shabad Reciting Gurbani which is a form of Naam as well. We are instructed to contemplate, meditate, recite, surrender to Naam until it is 24hrs a day even in sleep. One could never recite Gurbani if it was not also Naam.

You can die from alcohol withdrawl. I understand your sentiment. For me personally I don't mind my change goes to a drug, that they can't change anything about using yet, so they can live one more day and pray Akal changes them when they pray for change. But that's a personal thought. It's excellent you connect with them.

Is there a reason we think they can't?

Everything God made has a purpose if not many. Hemp is one of those things that has so many uses that it's clearly made by God for us to use. It's good in every way. Good for appetite. Now when wild boar come to destroy your crop, and those of simple people around you that feeds, clothes, fuels, builds and finances their life, it is clearly the will of the Lord we eat them to save everyone from them. And do something while ire to take care of the munchies.

Who calls who kufar?

This propoganda is so flacid.

It's the result of an apartheid, abuse and genocide. They were born idf targets.

If you'd like to edify the Sikh community please continue to participate.

Are muslims Sikhphobes? What did we say islamaphobic? Love my Akhis but one don't play bs. We don't agree with Islam brother. Simple as that. Our history is perfect essentially.

Who wants bacon?