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Sikh boy's forced haircut leads to Lok Sabha adjournment Thursday August 24 2006 11:53 IST IANS NEW DELHI: The humiliation of a Sikh schoolboy in Rajasthan whose hair was forcibly cut was the focus of Congress protests in the Lok Sabha on Thursday, leading to the House being adjourned abruptly for 15 minutes. There was pandemonium as soon as the Lok Sabha met. Congress MPs led by party chief whip Madhusudan Mistry got up from their seats saying that minorities were not safe in BJP-governed states. Although Speaker Somnath Chatterjee asked them to go back to their seats and raise the issue at 12 noon, the members refused and the House was adjourned. No senior BJP leader except V K Malhotra was present at the time. Congress President Sonia Gandhi and Leader of the House Pranab Mukherjee were, however, in the House. The incident had taken place in Jaipur on Monday when Class 12 student Indrapreet Singh was abducted on his way to school, beaten and his hair cut apparently because he stood up for a girl who was being stalked. The issue has been snowballing with demonstrations in Rajasthan, Delhi and Punjab.

"Majority of us are sad people who check the forum on a daily basis, looking to see who could have dared question our last comments.. or who was utterly amazed and desires to become an online chela" re read it mate , you should too. He is not saying "could be classed as sad" but "are sad" :-s, if you fine with it then you are, just that i didnt agree with it , not very encouraging.

Dynamic Banda, It is not very impressive at all to call "most of the people" on this board as sad . That implies in a way that whoever shows some interest in religion and wants to expand the horizons of their knowledge has a sad and boring life and nothing else to do. I am amazed as to how no one objected to that!

Willingness, honesty, open mind, and humility are indispensable principles to accept God’s Will. Faith is necessary but alone it can avail nothing. We can have faith and can still keep God out of our lives. We have to turn our will and lives to the care of God. Thy Will be done. suhylw khnu khwvnu ] qyrw ibKmu Bwvnu ] “Suhayla Kahan Kahaavan, Tayra Bikham Bhaavan†It is easy to speak and talk, but it is difficult to accept Your Will. ----Guru Arjan, Siri raag, AGGS, Page, 51-17 ijsu min visAw qirAw soie ] nwnk jo BwvY so hoie ] “Jis Man Vasiya Taria Soey, Nanak Jo Bhavai So Hoey†He alone is carried across, within whose mind the Lord abides. O’ Nanak, that alone happens, which is pleasing to His Will? -----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page 854-3 & 4 The important key to live under the Will of God is Willingness. It unlocks the door, which then opens itself. Looking through this door, one shall see a pathway with an inscription. This is the way to a Faith That Works. This needs acceptance, which in itself is a big chapter. It does not mean liking a situation; it is just an acknowledgement of reality and hope that it will pass. This pathway needs affirmative action, that we can cut away the self-will blocking the entry of God in our lives. Faith is necessary but alone it can avail nothing. We can have faith and can still keep God out of our lives. We have to turn our will and lives to the care of God. Thy Will be done. jo qum@ krhu soeI Bl mwnau mn qy CUtY sgl gumwnu ] “Jo Tum Karho Soyee Bhal Manou Man Te Chootai Sagal Gumaan†Whatever You do, I accept as good. I have eradicated all egotistical pride from my mind. -----Guru Arjan, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page 824-5 Affirm to Him that I offer myself to you, to build me, as He would want me to be, relieve me the bondage of Self, that I may better do Thy Will. Try to meet God in your self, one to one and voicing the affirmation with out reservation. To every worldly and practical minded, it looks hard and even impossible. It just needs a little beginning with the key of willingness. This all sounds mysterious and remote. But this very thing bolsters our lower instincts with egotism and frustrating our spiritual progress. The moment our mental and emotional independence is in question, how differently we behave, which is quite evident with the debated on the form. We think that no body can meddle with our personal independence. We are certain that our intelligence backed by will power can rightly control over the inner lives and guarantee its success in the world we live in. But think, how well does it work? Everywhere people seem to suffer from anger, resentments, and ego, and fear, unnecessary arguments that, I am right and you are wrong. It is by circumstances rather than by virtue that we are debating this subject. When we are disturbed about something or someone, it is because we do not understand on a higher level but view it through our personality, which is attached to our need to control things and see ourselves in a positive light. We cannot find serenity when we are at war with someone or with our selves, as our emotional state does not allow us to think straight and pertinent. Nor do we need to beat up others with blame words. We need to concentrate on our part of the situation; what needs to be changed in our way of thinking and having done so, happiness will follow. pRB kI AwigAw mwin suKu pwieAw Brmu ADyrw lhI ] “Parabh Kee Aagiaa Maan Sukh Paa-eaa Bharam Adayhraa Lahee†Accepting the Will of God, I attain peace, and the darkness of doubt is dispelled. -----Guru Arjan, Raag Devgandgari, AGGS, Page, 529-16 Nothing short of right action can bring the desired result. Our whole trouble has been misuse of the self-willpower. We have tried to bombard our problems with it instead of attempting to bring it in to agreement with God’s intentions for us. God’s Will, will help us conquering the three qualities of Maya (ignorance, pride and intellect). khY nwnku hir kw Bwxw hoAw khxw kCU n jweI ] “Kehai Nanak Har Kaa Bhaanaa Hoaa Kehanaa Kashhoo Na Jaaee†Says Nanak, everything happens according to the Will of the Lord; no one has any say in this at all. -----Guru Amardas, Raag Gujri, AGGS, Page, 490-14 By ourselves, we cannot do anything at all. As it pleases the Lord, He preserves us. O my Dear Lord, every thing is in Your power. I have no power to do any thing at all. As it pleases you, forgive us. You Yourself bless us with conscious, body and everything. You Yourself cause us to act. As You issue Your commands, so do we act, according to pre-ordained destiny? ivxu krmw ikCu pweIAY nwhI jy bhuqyrw DwvY ] “Vin Karma (Grace) Kich Paaee-ai Naahee, Jay Bhou Tayra Dhavai†With out virtuous deeds one cannot gain any thing useful in spite of running around. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Tilang, AGGS, Page, 722-9 pMc qqu kir quDu isRsit sB swjI koeI Cyvw kirau jy ikCu kIqw hovY ] “Panch Tutt Kar Thudh Srisatt Sabh Saajee Koyee Chayvaa Kario Jay Kich Keeta Hovai†You created the entire Universe out of five elements; if any one can create a sixth, let him. -----Guru Ramdas, Raag Suhi, AGGS, Page, 736-6 pMcim ivic Awkwsu kir krqw Ctmu Aidstu smweI] “Pancham Vich Aakaas Kar Karta Chatam Adsatt Samayee†The fifth element sky (void) was kept in between and creator God, the sixth one, invisibly permeated among all. ---Bhai Gurdas, Vaar 1, Pauri 2 You unite some one with one’s higher power, and cause them to understand, while others, the self-willed, do their deeds and cry out in pain. I cannot describe the glorious greatness of the Lord; I am foolish, thoughtless, lowly, and needs your forgiveness O Lord. I am ignorant, but I have entered Your Sanctuary. This is not a fatalistic or passive approach to life. We may very well be given seemingly insurmountable obstacles in life in order to learn what we can, by overcoming them. But if we face these obstacles with a basic acceptance, we are much more likely to possess the calmness of mind necessary to see with some clarity the most skillful means of overcoming them. What keeps us constantly struggling with life is the attitude of non-acceptance, of not trusting the basic process of life unfolding. We suffer under the false assumption that the goal of life is to always avoid what we find unpleasant and to try to dwell in constant comfort. We don't really understand that life is nothing personal. It is much bigger than that. We need to learn to trust in and surrender to this impersonal process we tend to think of as "my life.†jIA jMq siB srix qum@wrI srb icMq quDu pwsy ] jo quDu BwvY soeI cMgw iek nwnk kI Ardwsy ] “Jiaa Jant Sabh SaraN Tumaaree Sarab Chint Tudh Paasay, Jo Tudh Bhavai Soyee Changaa Ik Nanak Kee Ardaasay†All beings and creatures seek the Protection of Your Sanctuary; all thought of their care rests with You. That which pleases Your Will is good; this alone is Nanak's prayer. -----Guru Nanak, Raag Bilawal, AGGS, Page, 795-13 Can the question of spirituality ever be divorced from the question of character? It is impossible to be spiritual if one is not a descent person. AGGS is replete with hidden meanings, spiritual secrets and mystical moments that are not really kid stuff. It is a combination of qualities that makes an individual the sort of ethically admirable person he is. It is the settled condition we are in when we are well off in relation to feelings and actions. It is an unconflicted state where emotional response and rational assessment speak with the same voice. The moral law dictates that we need strength from our faith to fulfill our imperfect duties. Conclusions; The Divine Will created all forms; What that Will is no one can say. That Will forms all life And, that Will exalt all. The Will determines what is high what is low, The Will grants all joys and suffering, The Will blesses some; others migrate from birth to birth. All are within the Will none stands apart. Says Nanak, by recognizing the Will, We silence our ego. nwnk suK And Bey pRB kI mMin rjwie ] “Nanak Sukh Anad bha-ay Parabh Kee Man Rajaey†Nanak is in peace and bliss, accepting the Will of God. -----Guru Arjan Slokes, AGGS, Page, 1425-11

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_Sultan I do beleive in what she is saying to some extent, but there are more reasons to it that what she has mentioned, has islam lost its true meaning or has it always been fundamentally wrong n promoted fanaticism?. Poverty is said to be one of the major causues of terrorism or crime in general but the Arab countries dont have such a problem then how come they have so many people willing to blow themselves up? What ye say?

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Six years into the twenty first century, and from here on, every child that is born in this beautiful country, isn't going to be very aware of the true essence of the thinking behind the principles that laid the spirit of India. Centuries have gone past and it is becoming hard to trace down in the history books, the reason behind the poverty this country is plagued with and the social evils that are still prevalent. It is hard to imagine that this nation is dominated by hypocrites and also ruled by them to a certain extent. All these problems raise one question, very loud and clear. Was India ever meant to be one nation? Was it ever supposed to collaborate with diversified cultures and languages and form a confederation in the process? A confederation that has embarked the tag of a 'secular nation' in the form of its constitution. The history of this nation is way too complicated for a historian to study and conclude facts. There is the theory that the Aryans, who were the original inhabitants of Arabia and modern day Gulf countries, invaded the nation a good 5000 years ago and started to rule the nation. In the meanwhile, the original Indians, the Dravidians, migrated to the South in search of food and shelter, after their mistreatment at the hands of the Aryan cult. Hence, the nation was virtually divided into two halves, 'Uttar Bharat' - Northern India, and 'Dakshina Bharat' - Southern India. The east and west were inhabited by either the already prevalent tribal sects, or the Aryans and Dravidians that started to settle down in these regions. This ancient period in history marked the birth of imperialism in the world to some extent, and the successful invasion carried out by the Aryans sent out alarm bells around the world, encouraging other nations to visit India and witness the unseen and the unheard. It is not just the wealth this nation possessed, that attracted emperors from all around the world, but it was simply the rich heritage and the lifestyle of the Indians in those days. It is very well known that the Harappan culture which prevailed in the Indus Valley gave birth to one of the first few civilizations that mankind had experienced. The Greek philosophers were obsessed with the intellectual and engineering capacity of Indians in those days, simply because, when tribal sects around the world were attempting to find new ways of building shelter, the inhabitants of the Indus Valley were treated to enhanced roads which were made out of cement, and there was a structured traffic system in place as well. Recent historians have also accumulated information about the remains of the towns during the Indus Valley Civilization, and were astonished to hear that there were very tall buildings and even bathrooms back then. A major shift in time and here we are embracing the future possibilities of a better India. So, is India a united democracy after all? There is no two ways of looking at it, other than in the books, where it says that India is one nation. The very fact that the country is vastly divided in color, language, creed, caste and even religion, lays more emphasis on the fact that it is after all a case of many different nations inhabiting one single nation. How hard it is for a person who has lived all his life in North India to come and settle down in South or vice versa without any troubles! The principles that laid spirit of this nation spoke of values such as, 'honouring guests' and 'zero tolerance to violence' and unfortunately, it is these very principles that got outsiders to take advantage of Indians and India. The fact of the matter is that we Indians have forgotten the principles that laid the true essence of this nation, and we need people like Swami Vivekananda to come to our fort and remind us of these great principles. He used to say that everyone should follow the principle of 'Karma Yoga', which simply means, 'work sincerely' - and your work will determine your consequences. He reminded all of us that the true essence of this nation was built around love, harmony, universal acceptance, and most importantly peace. The Brahmachari sitting on the top of a mountain and meditating signifies the true & humble spirit of this nation. The Upanishads imply that we should be extremely laid back in the mind, but much focused at work and love everyone around us. It also says that we all make our own choices in life, and we are responsible for each and every step we take, and the consequences are directly related to us. Here we are in the twenty first century and materialistic aspirations of man have blindsided him and made him change his principles. The challenge is retaining the true spirit of India and also enhancing the thought processes in the bargain. The principles of 'Hinduism' have been misinterpreted over the years and there has been a misconception on the part of man. The ideals of this way of life states that every person should worship his work, and live a happy and peaceful life and not harm any innocent beings. It has absolutely nothing to do with idol worship and opposing other religions. The sects inside Hinduism altered with the original spirit. It doesn't tell its followers to hate a person from another religion. It is pragmatic, scientifically advanced, and in my opinion the most 'workable' way of life in the modern world. I sometimes feel that somewhere in the evolution of modern day India, we have misinterpreted religion with nationality. Remember, even though India is the original land of the Hindus, this nation belongs to people from all religions, sects, creeds, etc. Hinduism is no more just a way of life when practiced in the 21st century. The communal wars over the years in India prove that we never understood the philosophies of our ancestors. We can no longer brag about being 'universally tolerant', because we fight with our own brothers and sisters, our countrymen. The spirit of nationalism never sucked in because of the diversities among countrymen. If we compare ourselves with the Americans, we are not that different, because they have diverse cultures and sects of people spread out, but it is a nation dominated by two political parties, one major religion and just one language. This even though there were so many anti-Nationalists in the U.S during the cold war. Today, the U.S.A is deprived of civil wars and communal wars, simply because they've realized the importance of sticking together in times of trouble. Indians on the other hand, go back to roots every now and then, to investigate and hence the differences arise. Confederations like the U.S.A and India have definitely come a long way in forming a nation. It is extremely simple for us people sitting in the twenty first century to argue Mahatma Gandhi's decision to go ahead with the partition. The great man tried to unite this nation, which was bitterly exploited, due to its biggest weakness, and that is to try and stick together as one nation. It is extremely pessimistic to say this but the formation of India was almost a 'compromise'. Let me just justify that by saying that the nation has been plagued with communal wars for the last fifty nine years, post Independence. There is the old saying of course, 'it is never too late for anything'. And that is the only attitude to carry if we want to change this nation. We have to blend the true spirit of India, i.e, zero tolerance, non-violence and love, with twenty first century aspirations and make amends. If we as a country feel that we can be extremely successful, with all the social evils prevalent, then we are only dreaming. It is good to be aggressive, I think Indians have been considered 'pushovers' for way too long now, and it is simply because we as a nation, haven't realized our capabilities. Everything that has transpired through history is just history now, and the rapid pace at which the economy is growing is just reminiscent of the fact that we are indeed a progressive nation. We have to start telling ourselves, that we don't belong to a community, or a religion, or a particular creed, but just India. Primary Education for every child who is born in this country is an absolute must, and it is the only way they'll be strong enough to face the realities of life, and very importantly the social evils. An educated child may not get offended by an abuse offered by a person who belongs to a different religion, simply because, that child would've realized that getting into that sort of a quarrel is absolutely meaningless, because some arguments never end. Let us all unconditionally accept the fact that - by law, if you born in India, you are Indian. Yes, we have to respect religious institutions, because they imparted good principles in man, but no religious institution is more important than the nation that a person is born in. More than forty percent Indians are less than the age of fifteen, and that is the most positive fact, because we as a nation are definitely changing. We are the present of this country, and there are no two ways of looking at it. It is absolutely pointless to criticize the system that runs the governmental institutions, because quite frankly we are the only ones that have to take ownership for it at the end of it all. Scooping the mentalities of conventional Indians with the pragmatic ideals is something that will be the toughest thing to do, but we have to remain optimistic and hope for the best. End of it all… we are indeed a larger than life nation, and also the most 'original'. So, let us contribute as much as we can and embark ourselves upon this wonderful journey - living the Indian life. By Sai Mohan

day1: Upper body day2: Cardio day3: Lower body and so on......six days a week Eat healthy stuff, junk food no more than 1 day a week do 6 sets of each excercise, start with 12 reps,11,10,8 and 6 and keep increasing the weights and/or level of intensity as u reduce the no of reps that'll work cheers

LOL ! sorry but i found the second para very very funny! how did u think of that? anyways according to osho its all good and it might even get u a ticket to heaven if u think of god errrm at the right moment........... peace

There is no such thing as "love at first sight".....all there is, is "attraction, lust and infatuation at first SIGHT"....

There is this teenaged girl who's seeing a muslim guy....and most probably going to elope with him very soon to an islamic country. She's been brainwahsed by this guy and it seems she does not understand sikhism! So, if anyone can help in any way to stop this conversion would be greatly appreciated!! ("ik hor zakhm na de rabba, asi murd tere kar kiwe jaawa ge; chain sukoon ta agge nahi si, hun tere sahadat we na paswa ge?")

Upper Assam simmers with anti-Bihari rage ENS & AGENCIES GUWAHATI, NOVEMBER 18: One person from Bihar was killed, several beaten up, and some dwellings and shops were set on fire in three industrial towns of Upper Assam — Tinsukia, Duliajan and Margherita — early this morning. Later, suspected ULFA militants gunned down four Bihari truck drivers and injured seven in Dhubri district. Police sources say two armed rebels came on a motorcycle to a highway dhaba at Baxir Hat around 7 pm and opened fire on 25 truck drivers watching the India-Australia cricket match, killing four on the spot. ULFA commander Paresh Barua had earlier threatened action against Hindi-speaking people. A little before the bandh called by the All Assam Students’ Union (AASU) ended, a mob killed a Bihari and injured four others at Tiplai Colony in Tinsukia, police said. They added that a Bihari fish vendor was beaten up near the Deputy Commissioner’s office. In retaliation, some Biharis pelted stones at the Senairam Dungarmal High Secondary School. Tinsukia District Magistrate D. Das said the Army has been called out to prevent further violence. In Duliajan, six AASU members were beaten up in a Bihari colony, following which shops owned by Biharis were set ablaze. Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi today visited some of the Bihari families whose houses were burnt last night. Later, based on the complaint from the affected families, he suspended the O-C of Dispur police station. Gogoi held three meetings today with newspaper editors, senior citizens and representatives of political parties to find a solution to the violence. Centre takes grave view, moves BSF companies Pioneer News Service/ New Delhi The Centre has taken a serious view of the outlawed United Liberation Front of Assam's (ULFA) role in escalating the Assam-Bihar conflict to give shape to its "anti-national" designs. Considering the gravity of the situation, the Centre on Thursday pulled out seven companies of the Border Security Force from the Indo-Bangladesh border and moved them to Assam to be at the disposal of the State Government. Based on substantive information from central intelligence agencies, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) officials are quite concerned with the developments in Assam. The ULFA had earlier given a 'quit' notice to all Hindi-speaking people based in the North- East region. A classified Intelligence report submitted to the MHA on Thursday suggested that by fuelling violence, the ULFA was attempting to terrorise the Hindi-speaking people and oust them from the North-East. The outfit plans to replace them by pushing Bangladeshis in. The ULFA's nexus with the Pakistani ISI, which in association with Bangladesh's Director-General of Field Intelligence (DGFI), will help establish training camps for ULFA cadre, the report indicated. What perhaps is even worse is that the report suggested that despite ULFA participation in the violence, the State police was not taking any note of it. Citing instances, an official said when 20 suspected sympathisers of the outfit were nabbed by the CRPF in Lakhimpur and handed over to the local police, they were released within an hour. In Bongaigaon, homeguards were reportedly present at the spot when the ULFA attacked a group of Biharis. Instead of reacting to the situation, which could have saved many lives, the homeguards quietly left the place, The MHA therefore swiftly decided to send further reinforcements comprising central para-military forces even though the state has a huge presence of such personnel. An official said the state already has 123 battalions of central para-military force and 24 battalions of the Army. An additional six companies were sent on Wednesday to be deployed in Dibrugarh and Tinsukia. According to reports, groups of militants were getting ready to strike at "non-locals" at various places in the state. An official said the All-Assam Students' Union (AASU) has agreed to withdraw its earlier call to retaliate after talks at various levels. ...................... Just Wanted to bring this up cause it sure is a grave situation and it brings up a few things to think about?: well this has been going on is the eastern india esp ASSAM for over a decade now but it is becoming dangerously serious ' they have always hated non-locals (biharis,punjabis(sikhs),marwaris and bengalis) kidnapings, threats were in rife' from a sikh point of view we had to face two forms of discrimination ''religious and regional'........and this happens in every state outside punjab but in varying degrees, now the question is being a sikh if one offers u to live a) outside india or in india but outside punjab......what will u choose?? i will prefer to live outside india cause ethnic discrimination is not as bad as regional and religious hatred' Coming back to the burning issue here , so where are they(read indians) heading? assam as a new (non-hindi speaking) nation? or bihar as a new nation (as no one wants them niharis in their state, punjab included and they do have some genuine reasons, but then again the centre govt is in power cause of mainly two states UP and Bihar ! and yeah this time its hindu V hindu ! its good time for the ISI to employ the divide and rule policy( in reference to the above article)!!

homicide or not i dunno' it was ur second comment which was more like it' this is a sikh awarness site and punjab is an integral part of sikhi' u dont have to specifically mention it , its understood i dont know about ur life either ' and i do know there is something called fun,chilling back,joking, and messing about and i also know the time, place, situation and the subject matter to use it' and i dont take everything seriously and nor do i take everything as a joke' its ur opinion it may not be right',yes there is a time and place to everything' it is not the same thing as saying doaba is the best :roll: what makes u think i take pride as the only one being from amritsar? yes there maybe other members from amrtisar , i was just curious how come no one has mentioned it' sadly true' that has been the problem and it still is........ever read about the 1st and 2nd anglo sikh wars??

u see i made a point , asked a question, and i got a "joke" as an answer?? i dont want to make any personal attacks , and have idea how my question stops the forum from being run smoothly :?

hindu sikh, sikh muslim, jatt-tarkhaan batwaare ki katt si tusi hun majha-malwa-doabba vich fark paa rahe ho' u havent really learnt anything from this site have u?

doaba kicks ass? malwa is the best? what next? my gali is better than yours?? :roll:

Amritsar sifti da karr Am i the only one from guru di nagri ?? :!:

lol thats why i never tried playing it !! am not too much into rugby either just developed a bit of interest lately cause of the world cup here' yeah its AUS V ENG in the final !! ENG should win it but aussies are big match players ! u never know !

rugby? anyone? :roll:

cant beleive they lost to the aussies :shock: :( !!! hate em wallabies

After reading the above posts am looking forward to death....

nice work !! ive never tried making a parantha (had a few unsuccessful attempts at making rotis) forget about taking pics !! will have a go at this one !! thanx for the gobi waala parantha training module bro !!

saare guru de premiyaan nu gurpurab diyaan lakh lak wadayiyaan...... waheguru saadi kaum nu bal te matt di bakhshish kare, sikh sada chardikala vich rehn