Bruce Lung

Rabbit-hunting is allowed without a license in the UK (but you may not hunt hares). You can also hunt grey squirrels, grey/black or brown/white (but not all-white) pigeon, rats (ughh, I wouldn't bother and too hard to find anyway), crows (avoid because they carry diseases) and grey squirrels. You don't need anyone's permission to go ahead and hunt these beasts. Provided you have the landowner's permission (or are discrete but I wouldn't advise lawbreaking) you're free to hunt, kill and eat as many as you want. It's worth mentioning that these creatures are everywhere. Not everyone's a committed townie all the time, you know. I have twice hunted varmint successfully. There's no point making a fuss about it when there's a great big problem with groups of organised criminals (non-Sikh) doing far worse such as stealing sheep and halaling them to make smokies.

There are many good reasons for jagir other than eating the beast. For instance, sport, exercise, the experience of making the finish, trophy, hide/furs, preparation and planning, teamwork, physical skills, etc. It's socially acceptable in most places to go hunting, depending on the method used and the species of beast.

Eh? Why are you angry? I meant: "A person is more likely to be an RSS agent (covert presumably) if that person lives up to "one's" general expectation of what a Sikh is." Don't panic - your secret's safe with me. (joke)

More likely to be an RSS agent if he does live up to your expectation of what a Sikh is, eh Pheena?

Of course this isn't the good old days, and many Singhs have never been hunting which makes me wonder why they think simply taking amrit is enough to carry kirpan..

I've already answered the question!! For any size "kirpan" (for practical purposes, any fixed-blade knife) possession is allowed in public places, provided you are carrying it for genuine religious reasons. Offensive Weapons Act 1959 as amended, OK?

Hari you're wrong. You should not keep weapons on your person full stop. What you wrote about the 3-inches law is not true, as I mentioned earlier. It's not a question of inches. Stop making stuff up.

My kirpan is curvier than yours.

"A section of devotees had criticised him for not taking police help. They questioned his authority to barge into the gurdwara and added that in the absence of police personnel, it was hard to prove that incriminating articles had not been planted."

A strange and unusual incident. I'm sure it was just a one-off.

"Revelation and spiritual revolution"? Is this the kind of thing you make flippant remarks and jokes about?

It ain't true.

soaking turban wrapped around your head are also good for hot weather.

If a tree falls in the middle of the woods with nobody within earshot, does it make a sound?

Oh I forgot to say "ewww blood how horrible" so convincingly like Amrik. http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/publication/.../falsehood2.htm

Mehtab how can you kill off a tradition such as prasad by constantly capitulating to it? It takes someone to have the boldness to say: "this is ignorance and I want no part in it". The gods don't eat food and you can't eat their leftovers.

I saw this program. Those people seem to be in a very pure natural state of noble savagery. Their stick fights were particularly interesting because it was clear that their philosophy was to just go for the opponent - the "hows" and methods being much less relevant than the level of aggression. There was absolutely no jabbing with the stick (which seemed to be flexible and designed for non-serious injury)- just whacking. They stood within range exchanging blows with full force - it didn't look clean and sharp. I've seen some south Indian stick fighting and the Suri fighting shown in comparison seems a lot slower. I was also struck by just how rational they seemed to be. Drinking cow blood is an excellent way to top up on key nutrients which are hard to obtain from vegetables or cooked meat. Making love before fighting could conceivably relax and de-stress and be good for morale. They drummed up their courage using songs just before the fight (called donga), and chanted insults and threats directed at the enemy.

CE of course it can't. P cannot be equated with not-P. Why do you ask?

This is to do with the level one can attain. The conch is not so much an instrument as a harmonic resonator. You know the scene in Enter The Dragon with the hall of mirrors causing Bruce Lee's confusion? He was caught off guard. The images in the mirrors stretch to infinity in a constant pattern depending on the shape of the environ. The shape of the inside of the conch shell can be thought of as an acoustic echo-chamber environ in a fractal pattern. The fractal emerges from and extends to infinity. The pockets of harmonic resonance (parts of the shell that vibrate) range from small to large, taking the oscillation and reproducing the same harmonic resonation in as wide a frequency range as possible (high to low), following the strictly defined rules of the fractal. The combined vibration is one clean harmonic sound made up of high to low clean harmonic sounds. Distilling the essence of this, the rule that seems to be represented by the ancients' use of the conch shell is the shaping of vibration. If that is indeed the principle, then in this age of electronic amplifiers we are not limited to using this primitive device. "The level one can attain": the original script for the never-filmed Game of Death is relevant, as well as the hall of mirrors scene in Enter the Dragon. Increasing the size of the conch shell will only increase the amplitude and can never change the frequency range of the harmonics . The tone/pitch is controlled by the human being's lips. N30 says that this represents the level of attainment of the trikurti, which is a level of understanding not limited by time or space.

according to?

I wouldn't call a maximum 320Kbps top notch. In my book it's crappy. Also, a 320Kbps MP3 is a 320Kbps MP3 on ANY cheapo MP3 player, and the sound quality of the player itself wouldn't be any different depending on which player you're using. There is hardly any difference between the preamps in headphone units such as Walkman, CD players or MP3 players. The main thing affecting the sound quality of any MP3 player is the headphones. If you had invested £300 on Sennheisers and £30 on the MP3 player the sound quality would have left the Iriver for dust.

No probs Shaka I understand. Thanks anyway

It would be important to have this authenticated by an expert.

that's no problem you can stick a pair of earphones/headphones into the mic jack on your soundcard and record.

DBN could you convert these celestial sounds to MP3 and upload them for me to download and listen to? Thanks